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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 14:39:00 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 13:22:19 2016. I cancelled a trip to NYC after the Paris bombings. I also traveled to LI on Xmas by car rather than be in NYPS for a half hour between trains or desire to be on train in the tunnels.That makes no sense. Also, trains are much safer than cars! LOL!!!!!! You're just a reactionary ignorant hypocrite. Call it what you want - I voted with my feet, and NJT and LIRR did not get my money.WTF? You punished NJT and LIRR for something that wasn't their fault and didn't even have anything to do with them??? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 14:39:26 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 13:53:19 2016. Yes, you're paranoid (among other things). |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:40:06 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 14:36:04 2016. Subways are a microcosm of what goes on in the street. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:40:32 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 14:37:08 2016. yes he is. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:41:56 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 14:39:00 2016. Yes I "punished" them.Only a foamer would call a decision to drive as punishing the railroad. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:02:14 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:41:56 2016. You said: "I voted with my feet, and NJT and LIRR did not get my money." How is that anything other than a punishment? When you use that language ("voting with my feet"), you are saying you made a decision not to support something. Maybe you meant something else but that means you wrote the wrong thing. Your mistake. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:02:27 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:40:32 2016. No you're not. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:03:20 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:40:06 2016. In general, yes, but not necessarily so. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:10:42 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 14:38:58 2016. I know what you said. You think it is a significant %. But a significant % is NOT NECESSARILY A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT, AND IF IT IS NOT A SIGNIFICANT AMOUNT THENIT DOESN'T MATTER IF IT IS A SIGNIFICANT %!!!!!!!!You have a reading comprehension problem. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:11:54 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by TerrApin Station on Thu May 5 12:58:02 2016. bump for Joe VYes, they are safe, relative to any logical metric. There is no false sense of security. The same precautions you'd use anywhere else "safe" should be used on the subway. People should be, and are, told that. We can't help idiots or the ignorant though. That's not our problem. I missed nothing. Percentages mean nothing. Even raw numbers mean nothing. What matters are RATES and how they stack up RELATOVE TO LOGICAL METRICS. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:15:34 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:03:20 2016. Care to ride the #4 to New Lots at 4am and find out with you Smartphone out ? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:16:51 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:02:27 2016. I guess you have never been though a post-Grad Business program. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:19:41 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:02:14 2016. It means what I said.LIRR & NJT did not get my money because I chose not to take a train. What you prefer I sent a Xmas card to Ms Hakim and Mr Prendergast with a check enclosed ? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:22:02 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:15:34 2016. Why would I ride the #4 to New Lots at 4am with my smartphone out if I thought it wasn't safe? And what does that have to do with smartly using my smartphone to enter the turnstile? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:25:21 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:22:02 2016. Nothing. But you are the one that says the subway are almost always safe. So go ahead, try it.And no, I will not be waving my Smartphone around turnstiles. In fact, I do not even need to bring it with me, and often don't. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:27:17 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:15:34 2016. I don't know about him, but I don't ride the 4 to New Lots at 4 AM. If I did, I would use or not use my smartphone according to conditions. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:29:08 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:27:17 2016. Very wise. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:29:50 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:16:51 2016. No, I have not. But what does that have to do with you being wrong about this:I cancelled a trip to NYC after the Paris bombings. I also traveled to LI on Xmas by car rather than be in NYPS for a half hour between trains or desire to be on train in the tunnels. Call it what you want - I voted with my feet, and NJT and LIRR did not get my money. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:30:28 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:19:41 2016. Why did you choose not to take the train? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:33:18 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:29:50 2016. Those are true facts, not wrong.You would not have made those decision, but for you to be making judgement calls all day on someone else's choices prove you are a nosey bastard. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:35:07 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:30:28 2016. I did not want to be in major transit terminals, which were terrorist targets, did not want to make 3 hour train trip in what is a 90 minute car trip. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:35:47 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:25:21 2016. Nothing.Thank you. So you agree that there's no problem using your smartphone or bank cards to enter the turnstile. And no, I will not be waving my Smartphone around turnstiles.Wait, what?! In fact, I do not even need to bring it with me, and often don't.LOL! Then why bother having a smartphone if you're leaving all its benefits at home!?!?!? LOL! You're a f*cking riot! No wonder you got totally lost in Lower Manhattan! You didn't use the virtually unlimited resource that you could have had right in your hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I have no sympathy for someone as ignorant and paranoid as you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:36:07 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:27:17 2016. Exactly! |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:40:00 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:35:47 2016. That's right. I'll have a fare card.The Smartphone was locked up in my car. I don't need to make phone calls from the city, I am not addicted to it like you, and I went a couple of blocks out of my way near Stone Street which is not "totally lost". BFD. Only a nosey bastard like you who has no life could make an issue over this all day. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:40:17 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:33:18 2016. Those are true facts, not wrong.Nope, you were wrong for thinking that you'd be safer to drive, or that taking the train was in any way unsafe relative to your other daily activities. You would not have made those decision, but for you to be making judgement calls all day on someone else's choices prove you are a nosey bastard.Nope, not at all, because you are using those choices to try to justify why other people shouldn't have to use smartphone or bankcards to enter the subway. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:42:02 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:35:07 2016. I did not want to be in major transit terminals, which were terrorist targetsWrong. NYC transit terminals were not under any known credible threat. They were no more a target that day than on any other day when you did choose to use them. did not want to make 3 hour train trip in what is a 90 minute car trip.Well that has nothing to do with what we are discussing here, so why even mention it??? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:44:36 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:40:17 2016. Every transit system, including the MTA, has decided there will be a fare card option. I simply agreed with them.It is you who are forcing your habits on others with this stupid argument of yours. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:48:34 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:40:00 2016. But why wouldn't you carry your phone? Is it really inconvenient to carry it? You have no pockets? What if your car were stolen. How would you call the police to report it? If you're so worried about phones being stolen, why aren't you worried about your far more expensive car? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:49:40 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 15:42:02 2016. You asked "Why did you choose not to take the train?"and I told you. Now you bitch the time factor had nothing to do with what we are discussing. So you are so socially dysfunctional and stupid that you can't even recall what you asked for. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:54:03 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:48:34 2016. My car is 24 years old. Not a theft target with all the Hondas and Nissans in the lot. No computers in it, no GPS, no fancy sound system.Police station is 2 blocks from the rail station. Home is 2.5 miles from the station. Yes, I thought of all that beforehand. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:57:38 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:54:03 2016. The parts still have resale value abroad. And savvy thieves know that the older cars without the bells and whistles are easier to steal. No anti-theft devices. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 16:03:42 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 15:57:38 2016. Keypad kill switch, been there since 1994. There's plenty of such cars in junkyards that the thieves can pick their way through.When the Toyotas and Hondas get over 5 years, they become targets for the parts. 24 year old Chrysler, not so much. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:04:35 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:40:00 2016. The Smartphone was locked up in my car.LOL! I would think it is FAR more unsafe being unattended in your car than on your person!!!!! I don't need to make phone calls from the city1. How do you know you won't need to make any calls? 2. Who in the heck uses their smartphone mainly for calls?!?!?!? The SMART part of it is for using DATA! DATA!!!!! The whole point to carrying it is for the virtually unlimited resource that you could have had right in your hand!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! I am not addicted to it like youHow do you know I am addicted to it? LOL! You're such a liar. I went a couple of blocks out of my way near Stone Street which is not "totally lost". BFD.You complained about it and made a VERY big deal about it when discussing it previously. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:06:09 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:44:36 2016. Every transit system, including the MTA, has decided there will be a fare card option. I simply agreed with them.What you fail to see is that the MTA originally DID NOT WANT TO HAVE A FARECARD OPTION!!!!!!!! It is you who are forcing your habits on othersIt's not my habits. It's the general population's habits. You fail to see that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:08:47 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 15:49:40 2016. Now you bitch the time factor had nothing to do with what we are discussing.LOL! I quoted the specific part that related to!!!! |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 16:09:23 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:04:35 2016. Yes, I think it safer locked up in my locked car than on a pouch on my belt.Call who ? I don't need DATA, DATA. It can wait until I get home. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 16:12:36 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:06:09 2016. Well they talked into it, didn't they. They are in business to respond to the public that funds them.And it was not me who communicated that to them. So obviously there are plenty of people who want fare cards for their own various reasons, even if you can't stand the thought of that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:47:38 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 16:09:23 2016. Yes, I think it safer locked up in my locked car than on a pouch on my belt.Why is it on your belt?? Then someone can see it and steal it!!!!! Bring it with you, but keep it out of sight when you aren't using it! Then I don't see how it will be safer in your locked car. Call who ?I don't know. Things happen. If you don't need the data, then you must use the phone to make calls. So maybe you'll need to make or receive a call. I don't need DATA, DATA. It can wait until I get home.Really? Then why do you have a smartphone? And how would waiting until you get home help you if you need information immediately? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:48:56 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 16:12:36 2016. Well they talked into it, didn't they. They are in business to respond to the public that funds them.AFAIK, that's not why they changed their mind!!!!!! LOL!!!!! And it was not me who communicated that to them. So obviously there are plenty of people who want fare cards for their own various reasons, even if you can't stand the thought of that.Wrong. All of it. For many reasons. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 17:00:47 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:47:38 2016. Where should I put it ? In my purse (hah) ? In my sock ? In a bag ? I could forget a bag on the the train. That's a risk too. We all have absent minded moments.I may take it if I want to take pictures or video. Or maybe I'll call home to check my messages. Few people know my cell phone number. Why are you so concerned about keeping it out of sight if you are not concerned with someone snatching it out of your fingers ? Makes no sense. If I do carry it, it covers my right pocket and I can't be pick-pocketed. So one risk-taking reduces the risk of another. If they try to pick the phone, the velcro on the pouch will make a lot of noise. I only use it for Secure Wifi when away. If I can't get it, then I am offline. I don't care. No information is that important. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 17:10:41 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 16:48:56 2016. They changed their minds. That is all that counts, whatever their public excuse was. Yes they got negative feedback from no farecard. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 5 17:25:04 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by pragmatist on Wed May 4 18:13:25 2016. Those legislators who do not vote the wishes of those who elected them can find themselves voted out of office. |
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Posted by randyo on Thu May 5 17:25:24 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by pragmatist on Wed May 4 18:13:25 2016. Those legislators who do not vote the wishes of those who elected them can find themselves voted out of office. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 17:26:09 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 17:10:41 2016. They changed their minds. That is all that counts, whatever their public excuse was.Wrong. The reason matters and is relevant to the discussion. Yes they got negative feedback from no farecard.Link? |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 18:17:31 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 5 17:26:09 2016. Is that so:http://bit.ly/1SQcMNQ "The MTA would also sell a physical device of some kind for riders without access to bank-issued cards or smartphones, Ortiz said." That's good enough for me. It is you who cannot accept the fact. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 18:22:00 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 18:17:31 2016. No. He can accept that fact. He mentioned it. He was asking you for proff that they changed their minds because of an outcry.Personally, I don't care. They decided to have a farecard for people without RFID devices and that's that. I don't care why. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 18:33:26 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 18:22:00 2016. Well if they changed their minds, then why else would they ? Either they had a revelation or people complained. Like they are going to admit why. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Thu May 5 19:11:39 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Spider-Pig on Thu May 5 18:22:00 2016. They could have RFID in farecards very easily and not need the external devices. Montreal does. You were right in saying there is no reason a new modern system needs to exclude a very common feeling. As an aside, in Montreal you can register your farecard which provides you loss/theft protection, or leave it unregistered which makes it a bearer instrument like cash, but allows you to maintain anonymity. |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 19:20:19 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by pragmatist on Thu May 5 19:11:39 2016. I have the OPUS card. I could only register it in Montreal (AMT Customer service in Central Station). The on line application wants Postal codes, not Zip codes, to register it.Not the most flexible card to have. I had an unused 2-Zone AMT ride on the card from 2014, though I needed to buy 2 Zone 5 rides in 2015. They could not be added to the OPUS card. So the agent gave me paper OPUS cars for my round trip (to Exporail). |
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Posted by Terrapin station on Thu May 5 19:30:05 2016, in response to Re: MVM credit card difficulties, posted by Joe V on Thu May 5 18:33:26 2016. Why do you think that no one knows why? |
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