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Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 14 00:04:44 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by gbs on Mon Jun 13 23:48:55 2011. Thank you. Are you sure? I investigated the area the other day, and the ceiling is very different there.Were any exits or stairs closed with the opening of the Court Square connection? |
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Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 14 00:25:52 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 14 00:04:44 2011. AFAICT, there's no abandoned mezzanine at Court Square - 23 Street (former 23 Street - Ely Avenue). I agree with what gbs wrote. |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jun 14 00:41:20 2011, in response to *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jun 10 17:03:58 2011. Court Sq is older than 23 Ely IIRC. |
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Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jun 14 00:42:07 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 14 00:41:20 2011. Err. But of course you are referring to the transfer. Need to stop posting while I am half asleep. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 14 00:44:28 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by R30A on Tue Jun 14 00:42:07 2011. ;-) |
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Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines |
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Posted by GIS Man on Tue Jun 14 13:11:20 2011, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 21 22:03:37 2007. 21st-Van Alst has a lower level? For what?Bob |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 14 13:51:58 2011, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by GIS Man on Tue Jun 14 13:11:20 2011. daDouce Man can't answer you. :-( |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Jun 14 14:11:19 2011, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by tunnelrat on Sun Jun 12 19:45:44 2011. Agreed, but not in this particular thread. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 14 19:05:10 2011, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by R32 B Train on Thu Nov 22 03:36:37 2007. How about 75th Ave? I used that station when my sister lived in Forest Hills. |
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Re:: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Jun 14 19:06:48 2011, in response to Re:: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there?, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Nov 21 22:09:05 2007. Very carefully.:) |
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Posted by tunnelrat on Tue Jun 14 19:45:34 2011, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 14 13:51:58 2011. iirc it was built on stilts.several years ago one of the ny tv stations did a segment on the TPD`S officers who were assigned to go into the hole& search out the homeless who were living in the system.these 2 cops were under the station looking for a homeless vet to try& get him to a shelter. |
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Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines |
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Posted by gbs on Wed Jun 15 02:40:43 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by G1Ravage on Tue Jun 14 00:04:44 2011. I am absolutely sure about the false walls and what was there before, namely no stairs or anything other than another angled wall.Some of the original street exits at the 23 St end may have been reconfigured with the construction of the Citibank building and G connection, especially with the addition of escalators to and from the street. But the stairs from the platforms to the mezzanine are original and have not changed, and none have been covered up or removed. |
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Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jun 15 04:33:04 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by gbs on Wed Jun 15 02:40:43 2011. Cool, thank you for your insight. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jun 15 07:32:39 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by gbs on Wed Jun 15 02:40:43 2011. I agree with what gbs wrote. |
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Posted by mr_brian on Wed Jun 15 21:40:41 2011, in response to Re: *BUMP* Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by gbs on Mon Jun 13 23:48:55 2011. Are the brown speckles within the "23 St-ELY AVENUE" mosaic nameplates original too? I don't think I've seen them elsewhere at any IND station.Anyone recall what the Woodhaven Blvd IND station looked like before its mid-90s overhaul? Did the walls have "WOODHAVEN" on those white-on-black tiles underneath the tileband? Seems odd the station lacks them, along with the same white-on-black tiled arrows pointing to exits. |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 2 08:37:48 2020, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by Qveensboro_Plaza on Wed Nov 21 14:57:54 2007. Anyone have an idea when the underpass exits at 170th and 174-175th closed? |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 2 08:40:58 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 22 16:19:11 2007. This article indicates that they likely closed in 1984. Anyone have a specific date or know why it was closed? Tue, Sep 17, 1985 – 128 · Daily News (New York, New York) · Newspapers.com
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 2 08:53:16 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 2 08:40:58 2020. I would think it was an accident prone area. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 2 08:53:57 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 2 08:53:16 2020. It might have had to do with a major project to improve safety on the Interboro Parkway. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 2 12:21:15 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 2 08:53:16 2020. Almost 13 years later. Nectoposter of the decade. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 2 12:23:18 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Union Tpke on Wed Sep 2 08:53:57 2020. I was through there Saturday night. The Jackie Robinson lanes are no wider than they were 20 years ago. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by pragmatist on Wed Sep 2 13:19:48 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 2 12:23:18 2020. The lanes aren't much different, but the the installation of the "Jersey Wall" median, and some of the work on the "S" curves cut the carnage considerably. All you have to do is look at the barriers and figure that many of those big scrape marks used to be a trip into oncoming traffic, or off the road. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 2 13:29:44 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by AlM on Thu Nov 22 10:36:39 2007. The fenced off space where kiss and ride was formerly possible was always extremely cramped. IIRC it has space for 2-3 cars. In my opinion, the fencing off had nothing to do with crime but was related to the trsffic hazard caused on Union Turnpike by people stopping their cars in the traffic lanes while trying to get into the tiny stopping area.That makes sense. |
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Posted by Q4 on Wed Sep 2 13:31:35 2020, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Jun 11 13:48:15 2011. I was on a Transit Museum Tour of the Upper level station during the 90's. We went down and walked on the roadbed (no tracks) for a bit and could see where the tracks would have separated with some ramping down towards the QBL and the others staying on the same level and curving to the right. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 2 13:41:29 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by daDouce Man on Sat Nov 24 00:31:43 2007. The last time I was over there the North/Queens side was Jamaica Ave and the South/Nassau side was Jericho Turnpike.Even though now it's all Jericho Turnpike the North/Queens and South/Nassau split remains. If I'm not mistaken the dividing line runs down the middle of the roadway. Which brings up an interesting what-if scenario from the very recent past. During the riots in early June when the city imposed a curfew, it would have been illegal to drive west on that road segment between two Nassau County locations because the westbound lane is on the Queens side and the driver would have had to cross into the city. As far as I know the NYPD didn't make any attempts to enforce that, however. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 2 13:55:29 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by pragmatist on Wed Sep 2 13:19:48 2020. The underpass under QB has especially narrow lanes. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Sep 2 14:14:36 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 2 13:41:29 2020. No. Both sides are now called Jamaica Avenue west of the Cross Island Parkway and Jericho Turnpike east of the CIP. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 2 17:00:10 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 2 13:29:44 2020. No deceleration/acceleration lane to access it, just pull in and out and disrupt in doing so. It was rather dark down there. Another Robert Moses engineering disaster. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Sep 2 21:05:09 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Peter Rosa on Wed Sep 2 13:29:44 2020. But then what happens is cars idling there waiting for people to get out of the subway after work which really makes matters unsafe. |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 04:27:11 2020, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by Q4 on Wed Sep 2 13:31:35 2020. I was on that tour or one like it around the same time. Very interesting to see the upper level tiled island platform (trackbeds filled with "storage" miscellanea), and the unused tunnels to the east of it. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Express Rider on Thu Sep 3 05:03:57 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Nov 22 11:35:10 2007. I always look forward to reading your posts. Even if I don't have the technical background, to completely understand some of the explanations, I find them detailed and informative. |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Thu Sep 3 10:09:52 2020, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 21 16:23:16 2007. Check out Roosevelt Ave-Jackson Hts IND station. Heard there's an unused platform on the upper level meant for Rockaway trains.I always thought it was for a connection to the Myrtle Ave Line. Which I personally believe would make for a Great "Super Loop"through Brooklyn,Queens and Manhattan. |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 13:07:46 2020, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Nov 21 16:23:16 2007. Forget the Rockaway route. It would have made a great connector to LaGuardia (North Beach) Airport. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 13:13:48 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Joe V on Wed Sep 2 17:00:10 2020. You want a disaster? The original Interboro Pkwy was built without a center divider. Must have been a lot of fatal accidents on those hairpin turns through the cemeteries! |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Thu Sep 3 13:52:55 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 13:13:48 2020. The original Interboro Pkwy was built without a center divider. Must have been a lot of fatal accidents on those hairpin turns through the cemeteries!Convenient location. |
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Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ) |
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Posted by Joe V on Thu Sep 3 13:53:23 2020, in response to Re: Union Turnpike is Unique (Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines ), posted by Elkeeper on Thu Sep 3 13:13:48 2020. I remember being in the car with my father driving in the 1960's, 2 lanes each way, twisting and turning, with a concrete divider, but it was only about a foot high with rounded surface, not a "Jersey" divider. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Thu Sep 3 14:17:23 2020, in response to Re: Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by Q4 on Wed Sep 2 13:31:35 2020. So was I! Wish there would be more like these in the future.Some pictures from my tour and others --Mark |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Sep 3 14:49:50 2020, in response to Segmented or closed IND mezzanines, posted by G1Ravage on Wed Nov 21 06:36:49 2007. 63 Rego Park |
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Re: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there? |
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Posted by Express Rider on Fri Sep 4 22:04:56 2020, in response to Re: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there?, posted by Michael549 on Wed Nov 21 20:32:33 2007. I used this passageway at least once, during the summer of 1970. I'm sure others here have walked through it between stations as well. |
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Re: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there? |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 5 00:42:28 2020, in response to Re: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there?, posted by Express Rider on Fri Sep 4 22:04:56 2020. all of the various convenient (out of the rain and snow and no need to dodge traffic)--Gimbels passageway, a large network duplicating much of the Broad Street and MFEL in center city, a walkway from 30th St Penn Station Philly to the MFEL and Subway surface 30th St station, all got shut down as the cost of keeping them safe and sanitary. A sad commentary on civilisational decay. On a more local level, the closed opposite end entrances/exits, wereoriginally designed to make transit easier to use. full stop. |
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Re: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there? |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Sat Sep 5 08:32:48 2020, in response to Re: 42nd-34th/6th closed mezzanine.....what crime(s) occured there?, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Sep 5 00:42:28 2020. As I understand it, that passageway was built so that there could be an entrance at 38th Street, replacing the 38th Street station on the Sixth Avenue El. Anyway, there was a widely reported rape that occurred in that passageway and led to the closing of it and several others. |
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