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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Apr 17 20:11:05 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Apr 17 14:59:16 2009.

Also, the shade of blue that you used for the 8 Av lines does not show up very well against the black background. I would recommend a brighter shade.

I'd recommend a light background. Yes, that makes the Broadway BMT fade, but that's just one line.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Apr 17 22:52:46 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Wayne-MrSlantR40 on Thu Apr 16 21:40:18 2009.

Even Moe would defend Larry on that.:)

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Apr 18 00:09:51 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Apr 17 15:09:17 2009.

Well then Canarsie, Lenox and Fresh Pond are home yards to nothing.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Apr 18 22:04:26 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Apr 17 20:11:05 2009.

Yes, that makes the Broadway BMT fade, but that's just one line.
As is the Eighth. Decisions, decisions...

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Apr 18 22:05:02 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Apr 18 00:09:51 2009.

Noted, noted and noted.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Apr 18 22:09:12 2009, in response to Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 16 18:01:08 2009.

Thanks everyone for the comments and suggestions.

As of now, the main concerns seem to be lightening up the Eighth Avenue Line, adding in missed stops and moving Nereid Avenue back to it's rightful place at 238th Street.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by The I Man on Sun Apr 19 20:45:14 2009, in response to Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 16 18:01:08 2009.

Simply a fantastic piece of work Kriston. You should be very proud of your effort.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009, in response to Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 16 18:01:08 2009.

Anyone STILL remember this?

It's been revised with the changes you suggested! Click the image to download!

Header Image

And as always, comments, concerns, suggestions, and hate is welcome! Except politics, there's enough threads that cover that.


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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 7 23:23:59 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

That's great man did you create a fantasy map that looks the same as it? If so the Franklin Shuttle had better be extended to Lafayette Avenue and the (G) goes to Forest Hills full time, and-oh wait you forgot the Governors Island ferry how could you that ferry is awesome and free.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:31:25 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 7 23:23:59 2009.

That's great man did you create a fantasy map that looks the same as it?
Never really thought about it. My fantasy ideas are rather tame compared to other peoples...

If so the Franklin Shuttle had better be extended to Lafayette Avenue...
...and oddly enough, that's one of them.

...and-oh wait you forgot the Governors Island ferry how could you that ferry is awesome and free.
That's next update. NY Waterway, and other ferries.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by CurAke79 on Tue Jul 7 23:33:25 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Wow....I'm speechless. A+ for the excellent work!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:38:48 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by CurAke79 on Tue Jul 7 23:33:25 2009.

Wow....I'm speechless.
Please don't sue. :p

A+ for the excellent work!
Thanks!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by d_mind on Tue Jul 7 23:46:34 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Excellent work, but the LIRR goes to Greenport, not Greenpoint.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by metropod on Tue Jul 7 23:48:50 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

I find that the Path and 6th ave lines sharing thier circles to be anything but clarity.


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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jul 7 23:51:29 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Why is Dyckman/200th St. on the IND designated as "no northbound entry"?

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by d_mind on Tue Jul 7 23:56:12 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jul 7 23:51:29 2009.

I believe to go northbound you enter on the southbound side and crossover (or under).

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:58:07 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by d_mind on Tue Jul 7 23:46:34 2009.

Oops. I'll fix that. Thanks!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Subterranean Railway on Wed Jul 8 00:01:16 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by d_mind on Tue Jul 7 23:56:12 2009.

True, but the phrase "no northbound entry" could be somewhat misleading. Not knowing about the existence of the creepy underpass, I'd interpret "no northbound entry" to mean "walk to 207th St., you lazy bum!" :-)

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 8 00:02:28 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by metropod on Tue Jul 7 23:48:50 2009.

I find that the Path and 6th ave lines sharing thier circles to be anything but clarity.
Clarity for may may not be clarity for all. I'll look into it, thanks.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 8 00:03:11 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by metropod on Tue Jul 7 23:48:50 2009.

I find that the Path and 6th ave lines sharing thier circles to be anything but clarity.
Clarity for *me may not be clarity for all. I'll look into it, thanks.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by EastSideRider on Wed Jul 8 00:12:59 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Dude, this map is kickass! I like it better than the official one! MTA, take notes, lol! :-P

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 8 00:29:53 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by EastSideRider on Wed Jul 8 00:12:59 2009.

Dude, this map is kickass! I like it better than the official one! MTA, take notes, lol! :-P
Noooo, then they'll send me a DMCA notice!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by EastSideRider on Wed Jul 8 00:33:38 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 8 00:29:53 2009.

Lol, *T*R*U*T*H*

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Wed Jul 8 07:32:55 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Awesome job, once again. I love the usage of the green circles and red diamonds around the (6)/(7) and <6>/<7>, nice touch. No complaints with this one so far, you even fixed the Bx12 to Orchard Beach. Really great job.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 8 08:28:30 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Wow, you do really nice work! Thanks for showing it to us.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 8 08:40:34 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by metropod on Tue Jul 7 23:48:50 2009.

What? It's very clear.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 8 09:54:03 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by metropod on Tue Jul 7 23:48:50 2009.

Huh? They share stations!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 8 10:18:48 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Nice! I don't think the combination of comprehensive, legible, and to scale has ever been accomplished before.

I think the way yards are represented with the line bullets is misleading; e.g., it looks like the Rockaway Park Shuttle goes to Euclid Avenue by looking at the map. Also, rush-hour A service to Rockaway Park is described only in the legend and not on the map, but rush hour 2/4/5 service to New Lots is on the map and not on the legend. I think a single blob for station complexes would work better than individual blobs connected by lines, but that's personal preference.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 10 14:48:23 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Wed Jul 8 07:32:55 2009.

I love the usage of the green circles and red diamonds around the (6)/(7) and <6>/<7>, nice touch.
That was actually inspired by those posters they had up about accessibility at Willets Point.

Thanks!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 10 14:49:27 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 8 08:28:30 2009.

You're quite welcome.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Fri Jul 10 15:01:10 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Jul 8 10:18:48 2009.

Nice! I don't think the combination of comprehensive, legible, and to scale has ever been accomplished before.
Exactly the reason I did it.

I think the way yards are represented with the line bullets is misleading; e.g., it looks like the Rockaway Park Shuttle goes to Euclid Avenue by looking at the map.
I disagree. You can easily see the the shuttle does not operate to Euclid, just by looking at the map.

Also, rush-hour A service to Rockaway Park is described only in the legend and not on the map, but rush hour 2/4/5 service to New Lots is on the map and not on the legend.
That's because the New Lots situation is a bit more random than Rockaway Park. The same situation holds with the E to Jamaica-179.

I think a single blob for station complexes would work better than individual blobs connected by lines, but that's personal preference.
Problems would arise when connectiong to a local station to an express. That's one of the reasons I split the (7) and the <7> into two lines.

Thanks for the comments.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Think twice on Fri Jul 10 15:39:57 2009, in response to Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 16 18:01:08 2009.

Luscious! Makes me want to print it out, laminate it and hang it on my wall like art. Well done sir!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Jul 11 00:13:51 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Think twice on Fri Jul 10 15:39:57 2009.

You're gonna need a hell of a printer.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Think twice on Sat Jul 11 07:42:59 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Jul 11 00:13:51 2009.

:-)
I'll just "Shrink to Printable Area".
lol

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Jul 11 11:19:05 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Nice job, except the G doesn't go north of Court Square at ALL anymore.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by metropod on Sat Jul 11 12:30:28 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 8 09:54:03 2009.

using the same graphic to indicate a free transfer & a non free connection is not a good idea.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by 600VDC on Sat Jul 11 13:06:13 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Think twice on Fri Jul 10 15:39:57 2009.

I wish I had one-tenth of your artistic talent. Excellent.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 11 13:10:59 2009, in response to Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 16 18:01:08 2009.


Pretty darn impressive. I wish I had the ability to do that.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Van Nostrand on Sat Jul 11 14:36:15 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

I'd like to express my admiration for your beautiful map. It deserves exposure outside of the SubChat community. It should end up on Reddit and Digg, at least.

I'd also like to express my rage and exasperation. You killed my dream of doing something similar. ;)


Feedback:
1. For greater consistency with your map's style and the conventional style, should Ninth Street PATH not be spelled as 9th Street?

Somewhat similarly: "Smith-9th Streets"? "West 4th Street"?

2. Newark PATH looks like a branch of the Seventh Avenue Line.

3. I'm not sure I understand the commuter rail color schemes. First, the brightly-colored branch lines emerging from gray main ("trunk?") lines just look weird. Second, the bold colors could make a novice rider think the branches are somehow more important than the main. Third, the colors also make the branches look rapid-transity -- specifically in the Bronx -- so that the novice rider might expect Subway-style frequent service there.

In my opinion, an all-gray scheme for CR would work better.

4. Your map is more dense with information than the official one, reflecting your love and extensive knowledge of the system and the locales it serves. Great that the extra is present for anyone who wants to learn about this marvelous transit system; and you've managed it just so that while it's accessible for any rider who might practically need it, it won't confuse a novice.

You execute it perfectly, I think, except where you print the location of Subway yards. It is prone to confuse non-SubChat-types. I'd suggest printing the yard information in a low-contrast color similar to that of the expressways on your map.

5. A novice who's not a sharp map reader might wonder if the (2,3) stops at 103rd Street/CPW.

6. I agree with the other SubChatter who disliked the "NO NORTHBOUND ENTRY" warnings. It seems deceptive worded as such. And even assuming the wording is fine, wouldn't you need to print similar warnings for Franklin St (1), 23rd Street (C,E), and many others, to be consistent?

7. If the all-day, weekday-only (V) warrants a solid line orange line and a solid orange circle, doesn't the Flatbush Avenue (5) deserve it too?

8. There's an extra space in "B ," at Atlantic Terminal.

9. The square "terminus" icons look a bit out-of-place when they get separated from the dot that represents the terminal station, as in crowded areas of the map like Lower Manhattan. Your solution is to place the icon near the station name rather than the station dot -- but it confused me for a few minutes, until I understood what you were doing with them. It would be clearer that those icons are paired with the station names if you scaled them smaller, to the size of the station name font.

10. Re: Crown Heights / Utica Avenue, "during the rush hour" sounds awkward to my ear. For style and consistency, I suggest using simply, "rush hours", as you do at New Lots terminal.

11. Re: Bleecker Street, suggest "Downtown 6 platform..." in place of "Downtown platform...".

12. Hells Kitchen -> Hell's Kitchen.

13. DUMBO and Loisaida are not well-established neighborhood names. I am not sure they are worthy of such a professional-looking map. On the other hand, it is also a modern-looking map, so maybe the names are appropriate. (I think DUMBO is traditionally called Vinegar Hill.)


By the way, can you tell us about the technical tools you used for this project? Google Maps? Adobe Illustrator?

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by MainR3664 on Sat Jul 11 15:13:00 2009, in response to Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Apr 16 18:01:08 2009.

Fantastic work!! I'm really impressed by the time and effort you must have put in to this!!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by error46146 on Sat Jul 11 21:55:38 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Tue Jul 7 23:19:29 2009.

Excellent job! Now do you happen to have this in non-PDF format lol PDF lags waaay too much for me

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 12 15:23:32 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Jul 11 11:19:05 2009.

Nice job, except the G doesn't go north of Court Square at ALL anymore.
Except for a couple of holidays, no it doesn't. I'll revise that.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 12 16:00:13 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Van Nostrand on Sat Jul 11 14:36:15 2009.

I'd like to express my admiration for your beautiful map. It deserves exposure outside of the SubChat community. It should end up on Reddit and Digg, at least.
I don't think it's ready for primetime, at least not yet.

I'd also like to express my rage and exasperation. You killed my dream of doing something similar. ;)
Accept my apologies.

Feedback:
1. For greater consistency with your map's style and the conventional style, should Ninth Street PATH not be spelled as 9th Street?
That's actually something carried over from a Wikipedia policy. I just decided to go along with it.

Somewhat similarly: "Smith-9th Streets"? "West 4th Street"?
See above.

2. Newark PATH looks like a branch of the Seventh Avenue Line.
The NWK-WTC line is rendered in red on PATH maps. Decided to carry that over too.

3. I'm not sure I understand the commuter rail color schemes. First, the brightly-colored branch lines emerging from gray main ("trunk?") lines just look weird. Second, the bold colors could make a novice rider think the branches are somehow more important than the main. Third, the colors also make the branches look rapid-transity -- specifically in the Bronx -- so that the novice rider might expect Subway-style frequent service there.
And that is why there's a note under Metro-North in the box: Trains operate on a schedule and fares are distance based.

In my opinion, an all-gray scheme for CR would work better.
One of the reasons I did this map is because of that, I wanted each line to be displayed in it's original colors given by their operator.

You execute it perfectly, I think, except where you print the location of Subway yards. It is prone to confuse non-SubChat-types. I'd suggest printing the yard information in a low-contrast color similar to that of the expressways on your map.
I'll consider that.

5. A novice who's not a sharp map reader might wonder if the (2,3) stops at 103rd Street/CPW.
And they will figure that one out when the train keeps moving. : )

6. I agree with the other SubChatter who disliked the "NO NORTHBOUND ENTRY" warnings. It seems deceptive worded as such. And even assuming the wording is fine, wouldn't you need to print similar warnings for Franklin St (1), 23rd Street (C,E), and many others, to be consistent?
200th, 238th, and 145th only have high exit turnstiles on ther northbound platforms. While 200th does have an underpass, the latter two do not. Those other examples you mention have either standard three arm turnstiles, and/or high exit (and high entrance) turnstiles that allow passengers to enter the system without the use of under or overpasses.

I will revise 200th, since it is possible to catch a northbound train, but the other two will remain.

7. If the all-day, weekday-only (V) warrants a solid line orange line and a solid orange circle, doesn't the Flatbush Avenue (5) deserve it too?
Actually, yes, it does. I'll fix that.

8. There's an extra space in "B ," at Atlantic Terminal.
Thanks for catching that.

9. The square "terminus" icons look a bit out-of-place when they get separated from the dot that represents the terminal station, as in crowded areas of the map like Lower Manhattan. Your solution is to place the icon near the station name rather than the station dot -- but it confused me for a few minutes, until I understood what you were doing with them. It would be clearer that those icons are paired with the station names if you scaled them smaller, to the size of the station name font.
I'll consider it.

10. Re: Crown Heights / Utica Avenue, "during the rush hour" sounds awkward to my ear. For style and consistency, I suggest using simply, "rush hours", as you do at New Lots terminal.
Noted. It does sound better, I'll change it.

11. Re: Bleecker Street, suggest "Downtown 6 platform..." in place of "Downtown platform...".
Then comes 2AM, the 4 stops there, and then someone asks "Shouldn't it be the downtown 4 platform?" I don't want to underestimate tourists, you were the one who said that someone might think the 2 and 3 stopped at 103rd Street.

12. Hells Kitchen -> Hell's Kitchen.
Oops.

13. DUMBO and Loisaida are not well-established neighborhood names. I am not sure they are worthy of such a professional-looking map. On the other hand, it is also a modern-looking map, so maybe the names are appropriate. (I think DUMBO is traditionally called Vinegar Hill.)
That's more of a "damned if you do, and damned if you don't" situation. Neighborhoods are a touchy thing, and I'd rather not get into that.


By the way, can you tell us about the technical tools you used for this project? Google Maps? Adobe Illustrator?
Both. Created a Google Maps mashup of the entire city, set it as a layer, then drew out lines on top of it on different layers.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 13 09:26:49 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Van Nostrand on Sat Jul 11 14:36:15 2009.

DUMBO and Loisaida are not well-established neighborhood names. I am not sure they are worthy of such a professional-looking map. On the other hand, it is also a modern-looking map, so maybe the names are appropriate. (I think DUMBO is traditionally called Vinegar Hill.)

"DUMBO" is in widespread use. The "proper" name is Empire-Fulton Ferry; Vinegar Hill is east of there (Gold Street/Hudson Avenue).

"Loisaida" has been out of common use since the 1980s, and even "Alphabet City" is being overtaken by "East Village."

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Mon Jul 13 09:28:02 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 12 16:00:13 2009.

I don't think it's ready for primetime, at least not yet.

I think it's more "ready for primetime" than the official Map!

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by Van Nostrand on Mon Jul 13 11:13:14 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by error46146 on Sat Jul 11 21:55:38 2009.

If you're using Windows, have you tried Foxit PDF Reader in place of the Adobe PDF Reader?

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Mon Jul 13 17:03:19 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE! AGAIN!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sun Jul 12 15:23:32 2009.

On July 3 (which was a Saturday holiday schedule), the G was still turning at Court Square. So no, not even holidays.

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Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!

Posted by JerzDevl2000 on Fri Sep 11 18:05:19 2009, in response to Re: Map Project--COMPLETE!, posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Thu Apr 16 21:15:07 2009.


Gosh, I haven't been on here in months, but I stumbled upon this when looking for threads on the Jay/Lawrence transfer under construction...and I'm glad I found this! It looks slick and well-put together and I wouldn't mind seeing this on subway cars as the official map.

Something like this is great too because it shows Manhattan to scale, as opposed to the current map which fattens out the center of the island and thins out the edges.

Just like the above poster, I may save this too. Could make for a good fantasy map starting point!

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