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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 29 20:32:47 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Allan on Thu Jun 29 19:09:55 2017. The doors on the R-12/14/15s are symmetrical and opposite each other. They were offset beginning with the R-17s through the R-36s. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 29 20:34:53 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by displaced angeleno on Thu Jun 29 15:20:50 2017. "You know what'll happen. What always happens - I'll get booed." |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 29 20:53:28 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jun 29 20:34:53 2017. "Well look who's here. The goddamn Mayor." |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Jun 30 01:34:15 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Stephen Bauman on Thu Jun 29 14:14:43 2017. In addition to what has been said - the doorways on the inner loop platform have been sealed with cinder-blocks decades ago, and painted black. There is I think one doorway that is accessible. While the outer loop platform was open one could easily see the cinder-blocked openings within the curved wall.The capability to use the inner loop platform was lost decades ago, as well as by the changes in rolling stock. Mike |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 30 07:03:02 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Michael549 on Fri Jun 30 01:34:15 2017. In my personal observation, most of the inner loop openings were sealed up in 1997 or 1998. |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jun 30 11:19:05 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Allan on Thu Jun 29 19:09:55 2017. But you are right wondering why (I always wondered that) they didn't set the specs on the R142/142As to be able to platform at SF. It is interesting to note that the A cars on R142/142As have the same parallel door alignment as the R62/62As.There were arguments in favor of both straight-across and offset doors when deciding the R142. Either would have been fine for South Ferry, it just might have meant pulling R142s up to a slightly different stop marker. The problem was, they decided to King Solomon it and have A cars mimic the R62s and B cars mimic the redbirds with offset doors. No amount of selective car spotting can handle that. Meanwhile in the B division, the R143/160/179 will all have the exact same door positions. The R211 is going to break from this, making platform screen doors impossible for yet another generation. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 30 13:41:03 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 29 20:06:11 2017. But it was closed before you even asked the first time, which I've told you two times already. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 30 13:49:34 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 29 20:06:11 2017. What would you possibly use it for? |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jun 30 14:37:11 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Jun 30 13:49:34 2017. If not for the gapfiller problem, rush hour 5s. A few short turn there anyway, put it on the schedule, and only open the platform for those few arrivals/departures. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 30 15:00:56 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 30 13:41:03 2017. Who are you again? |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Jun 30 16:17:45 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Jun 30 07:03:02 2017. On the NYCSubway.Org website there are pictures of what looks like transit-fan trip exploring the inner-loop station. It appears that some - most - all of the doorways were open in 1997.The paragraph description does not give a clue as to when the cinder-blocks were applied. The descriptive paragraph says: "The inner loop platform at South Ferry is now used for crew quarters, offices, storage, etc. and has a separate entrance from the fare zone upstairs." The Bowling Green - South Ferry Shuttle stopped its operations in 1977. Mike |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 30 17:30:47 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Bill Newkirk on Thu Jun 29 19:47:40 2017. The gap fillers wouldn’t have been the only problem. Clearances on other parts of the IRT preclude cars longer than the current length. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 30 17:34:39 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jun 30 11:19:05 2017. When trains with R-12s through 15s with symmetrical doors ran in consists with later SMEES with offset doors, there didn’t seem to be any problem so why the problem with the R-142s? |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Jun 30 17:39:48 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 30 17:34:39 2017. I don't know, but the NTT trains have much wider doors. Maybe that leaves too little room for tolerance ? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Jun 30 19:25:35 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 30 15:00:56 2017. The guy who unfortunately makes you look bad. But it doesn't have to be that way. Your choice. But you can't deny that it was really funny that you asked if it was going to close AFTER it had already closed, and besides, it closed last time the new SF terminal opened, so why would it be different this time? |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 30 19:50:53 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 29 20:53:28 2017. IIRC it was more like, "Jesus, it's the goddamn mayor!" |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 30 19:53:19 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Michael549 on Fri Jun 30 01:34:15 2017. I read that if they really wanted to, they could program the R-142/142As so that only their center doors would open. Are those cars so equipped? |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Jun 30 20:14:02 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jun 30 19:53:19 2017. If they aren’t, they should be! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Jun 30 21:04:55 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Jun 29 20:53:28 2017. Yay! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Jul 1 10:20:47 2017, in response to Re: Grand Reopening of South Ferry Station, posted by randyo on Fri Jun 30 20:14:02 2017. Agreed. |
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