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Re: Story Hits the Gothamist (Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Sta)

Posted by randyo on Thu Feb 19 19:09:36 2009, in response to Re: Story Hits the Gothamist (Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Sta), posted by Deaks on Tue Feb 17 13:44:58 2009.

It seems to me that the concept of "following orders" as a defense for illegal behavior was addressed during the post WWII Nuremburg trials. If we allow police officers in so called civilized countries like the USA to successfully plead "following orders" as a defense, then we open the door to having to pardon all the Nazi war criminals who used that same defense. The severity of the offense is irrelevant since permitting the "following orders" defense for minor violations will ultimately encourage police and similar persons to engage in more serious acts of civil rights violations with disatrous results.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by WayneJay on Sat Feb 13 16:17:43 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Olog-hai on Sat Feb 14 18:54:11 2009.

..and so it yours.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 16:44:06 2010, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

wtf ! i hope you win your case and then you SUE them

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Feb 13 16:50:24 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 16:44:06 2010.

i hope you win your case and then you SUE them

???

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 17:04:02 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 16:44:06 2010.

lol. He already won his case homes! :)

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by 156n3rd on Sat Feb 13 17:46:44 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by vfrt on Fri Feb 13 12:39:29 2009.

It os not necessary for anyone to reveal their political persuasion. It's just like telling everyone you meet that you're (fill in any blank here). People just don't need to know.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 17:47:17 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 17:04:02 2010.

great lol!
: )

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by 156n3rd on Sat Feb 13 17:48:37 2010, in response to I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by rtype3995 on Thu Feb 12 20:54:45 2009.

It's never a good diea to challenge anyone in law enforcement. Right or wrong. Manners, decorum and a peaceful cooperative attitude usually work.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 17:50:49 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by 156n3rd on Sat Feb 13 17:48:37 2010.

and still you get handcuffed anyway

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 17:57:25 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by 156n3rd on Sat Feb 13 17:48:37 2010.

It's never a good diea to challenge anyone in law enforcement. Right or wrong.

No, law enforcement is not above the law.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 18:16:08 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 17:57:25 2010.

i just show them my id and go quiet
and hope i wont get arrested that day by some stupid ass pig

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Nilet on Sat Feb 13 18:21:32 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by 156n3rd on Sat Feb 13 17:46:44 2010.

Actually, that's not quite true. Right-wingers believe that the government and its officials should be more powerful and less accountable, so revealing said political persuasion in this case serves to emphasize the point— "Even I think that went too far!"

It's the difference between "I think he's innocent" and "as the chief prosecutor, I think he's innocent."

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 18:29:02 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 18:16:08 2010.

I would next time. Even though it's not proper procedure it's not worth the hassle. Still I haven't even been asked to show ID in 3 years. But I don't engage in risky behavior as I've seen you do. No offense.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 18:34:46 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 18:16:08 2010.

excelento

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by B1bus on Sat Feb 13 18:40:21 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by 156n3rd on Sat Feb 13 17:48:37 2010.

This post is from the same dates LAST year.
He already sued and won $30 grand.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 19:39:52 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 18:29:02 2010.

risky behaviour ! .....................omg easy !
oh well ...
lol

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 19:40:22 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 18:34:46 2010.

mr maddposta says i cant use that word anymore ...............lol

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 20:14:03 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 19:40:22 2010.

If you can call cops "pigs", you can pretty much say anything.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Feb 13 20:22:16 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 20:14:03 2010.

He should say it to their face, then he can say anything

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 20:27:51 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 20:14:03 2010.

you can try calling a cop a pig to his face but he has a set of handcuffs for you not you have a set for him .

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 20:36:39 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 20:27:51 2010.

excelento

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 20:38:04 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 20:36:39 2010.

ok !
lol
mr mabsosta will come after you with his personal atacks
lol

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 13 20:44:44 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Feb 13 20:14:03 2010.

And then he has the nerve to say he's gonna call the FBI on me for emailing him!
LOL!
Guess the FBI aren't pigs!

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 20:45:57 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sat Feb 13 20:44:44 2010.

???

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 20:59:46 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 19:39:52 2010.

Maybe risky goes too far. How about attention attracting behavior?

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 21:00:57 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 20:59:46 2010.

hmmmmmmmmmmmmm.......................?
lol
: )

i dont know photography is a legal..

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 21:03:50 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 21:00:57 2010.

photography is legal .......correction

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 21:23:19 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 21:00:57 2010.

I meant stuff like walking into the road while cars are coming to take a picture. You and Peter seemed oblivious to the cars coming. No biggie. I'm sure that lots of photographers do stuff like that, but it attracts negative attention.

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 21:36:44 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 21:23:19 2010.

oh well
you do see the results of such a photo type
sometimes you do get a good picture
lol

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Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2

Posted by Easy on Sat Feb 13 21:40:55 2010, in response to Re: I was taken in handcuffs for photography at the Freeman St Station on the 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Feb 13 21:36:44 2010.

True!! :)

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