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Posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021 Went to the new Elmont Station which opened up yesterday for passenger use. Here's a brief overview of the station, along with some Main Line action, and footage of the first train to stop at the station, in revenue service.Enjoy, and thanks for viewing! |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 06:45:40 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. They keep saying this is the first new LIRR station in 50 years. 50 years ago, which station was that ? |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 21 07:00:55 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 06:45:40 2021. The last station to open before Elmont, as far as I can find, is Mastic-Shirley, which opened in 1960, unless you want to count Hillside Facility, which opened in 1991. Not sure about the “nearly 50 years” statement. |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Sun Nov 21 08:05:56 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. Elmont looks like it's a pretty long walk to the UBS arena. I wonder how long it'll be until the novelty wears off with fans, especially given that they'll walk past the Belmont Park station, right near the arena.Cuomo's ego really was something, wasn't it? |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 21 08:26:36 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by nasadowsk on Sun Nov 21 08:05:56 2021. Yep:And while it's nice to have the new station (which will help), what is REALLY needed is to re-do the area around Belmont Park Station into a flying junction where trains from both directions can easily access it and the bridge leading into Belmont Park is upgraded to two tracks from a single track, allowing it to be allowed to be used for trains to/from UBS more easily. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 08:28:19 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by nasadowsk on Sun Nov 21 08:05:56 2021. Anyone who doesn't want to walk can take the free shuttle bus. The Belmont station has serious limitations that can not be easily overcome.Cuomo's hand or not, the station is fine. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 08:39:45 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Sun Nov 21 08:26:36 2021. Maybe when/if the rest of the development at the site takes place. Right now it is a lot to do for a limited number of dates. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 21 08:47:22 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. Thanks for posting! I wonder if they'll pad the schedules a bit to allow for dwell time? |
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Posted by Pelham Exp on Sun Nov 21 08:52:20 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 08:28:19 2021. How was the return trips handled after the game. Were there trains laid up outside the station? |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Nov 21 09:24:09 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 08:28:19 2021. What are the limitations with Belmont station? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 09:36:33 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Mitch45 on Sun Nov 21 07:00:55 2021. They moved some Ronkonkoma line stations in 1987, like Deer Park moved closer to the old Pine Aire, but I don't think they were thinking that. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 09:38:51 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by nasadowsk on Sun Nov 21 08:05:56 2021. I think their ulterior motive is to get rid of Belmont Park since they detest run event special trains. With Elmont, they are going to have to replicate Queens interlockng east of it to make the westbound platform fully functional. Quite a boondoggle, yet spitting distance from Queens Village and Bellrose. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 09:40:07 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Nov 21 08:47:22 2021. Once it is a regular Hempstead Branch train stop, yes. Then see down the road if they try to get rid of Bellrose. |
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Posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Nov 21 09:44:44 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 09:36:33 2021. They moved some Ronkonkoma line stations in 1987, like Deer Park moved closer to the old Pine Aire, but I don't think they were thinking that.Not to mention that Ronkonkoma station itself went from a quiet line station to the apocalyptic madhouse it is (or was, pre-covid) today. |
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Posted by jabrams on Sun Nov 21 09:47:16 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Pelham Exp on Sun Nov 21 08:52:20 2021. Based upon the signage, there was only 1 train every hour (5:17, 6:17 and 7:17). The Belmont Race Track station would have trains come in-between those times? The westbound platform is in, but the overhead passageway is not complete. Why not just built a temporary entrance, or is there no way to cross under the tracks? The first westbound train blew its whistle (horn) when bypassing the station, the second train didn't. The diesel pulled train had the first car with an partially open door and it sounded like a flat wheel in the last car. Where would they be towing it to, as the Hillside facility is west of there. It appeared there was practically no one left on the train when it left the station. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 10:00:18 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Nov 21 09:24:09 2021. The inability to practically serve both directions with through service. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 10:00:18 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Peter Rosa on Sun Nov 21 09:24:09 2021. The inability to practically serve both directions with through service. |
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Posted by Subway Maps on Sun Nov 21 13:10:05 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. Question about the Elmont station signs on the platform, There is brown/gold strip above the name; Does this mean all LIRR stations will have color strips? (like Metro North). |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 21 13:38:39 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 06:45:40 2021. southampton college. |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 13:41:49 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 21 13:38:39 2021. That explains why they don't mention it per se because they could not wait to kill it in 1998. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 21 14:47:58 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. I'm just wondering, on a temporary basis based on after the game eastbound Hempstead departure times and interlocking locations, if they could "wrong rail" a train or 2 into the eastbound platform at Elmont for westbound passengers following events rather than having to bus them all to Queens Village if the Belmont Station "specials" are not available? |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 15:36:48 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 21 14:47:58 2021. Since LIRR built this staion to avoid use of event specials, likely not, or else they could simply run special trains to Belmont Park. |
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Posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 17:17:04 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Nov 21 14:47:58 2021. They ran specials to Belmont Park yesterday (only from Jamaica though, they apparently no longer go to Penn). They're also doing that today, based on info from the Train Time app. So both stations are still in use. Belmont Park's service is more limited though for events, compared to how it's been done in the past. |
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Posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 17:25:15 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 10:00:18 2021. Yeah, in the past whenever there were events at Belmont Park, Hempstead Branch service was reduced to bi-hourly for the event (as well as several hours before and after the event). |
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Posted by Subway Maps on Sun Nov 21 17:26:59 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. Question about the Elmont station signs on the platform, There is brown/gold strip above the name; Does this mean all LIRR stations will have color strips? (like Metro North). |
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Posted by Subway Maps on Sun Nov 21 17:28:31 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Subway Maps on Sun Nov 21 17:26:59 2021. Sorry for duplicated posts...I accidentally refreshed my browser. |
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Posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 18:02:43 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Subway Maps on Sun Nov 21 17:26:59 2021. I don't know whether this was done for this station only or if it's a new thing for all future stations (or station sign replacements). However, I doubt they would all of a sudden change every single station sign strip into the same color that their respective branches are given. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 21 19:36:34 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Sun Nov 21 13:41:49 2021. i hated it when bayport and bluepoint closed. |
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Posted by Subway Maps on Mon Nov 22 01:13:34 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 18:02:43 2021. Thank you. We shall see what LIRR plans to do with this type of signage. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 22 02:26:10 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 08:39:45 2021. Maybe now, but the Islanders while the primary tenant won't be the only ones using the arena. Concerts and other events should take up another 100+ days over the course of a calendar year, and that is before the rest of the development. |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 22 02:28:27 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by pragmatist on Sun Nov 21 08:28:19 2021. Those limitations can be fixed:1. Build a flying junction that would allow trains in BOTH directions to access the bridge between the mail LIRR road and Belmont Park. 2. Double-track the bridge. As that area becomes more developed this will be needed, especially if Belmont Park itself eventually becomes a Racino. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 06:54:53 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 22 02:28:27 2021. Not worth it. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Nov 22 07:07:49 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Subway Maps on Sun Nov 21 17:26:59 2021. Well, on MNRR, there are very few stops where more than 1 line stops- Maybe GCT, 125th, and now Fordham. Color strips can either be left off the signs at those stops, or in the case of Fordham, still colored blue, because the Harlem Line "owns" it, even though the New Haven stops there.If LIRR started using color strips, there are quite a few stops for which a decision had to be made as to which line they actually belong. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 07:21:41 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 21 19:36:34 2021. Along with Setauket and Calverton over station maintenance fued with the county.Centre Moriches was the biggest tragedy. So now they run a lot of train miles non-stop from Mastic-Shirley to Speonk, where there is not much patronage. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 07:22:38 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by ntrainride on Sun Nov 21 19:36:34 2021. Now that SUNY Stoney Brook has set up shop at Southampton College, LIRR still does not give a shit. |
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Posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 22 09:12:45 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 07:22:38 2021. It wouldn't have the patronage to warrant a stop on the Montauk Branch. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 09:20:50 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by MorningsideHeightsM100 on Mon Nov 22 09:12:45 2021. Southampton College did. They used faulty AM rush loading criteria to justify killing it. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Nov 22 09:22:54 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 07:21:41 2021. in the mid-70's i lived in patchogue and was seeing a girl who lived on railroad avenue a few blocks from center moriches station. took the train there plenty of times. |
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Posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 09:44:05 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Subway Maps on Mon Nov 22 01:13:34 2021. To call St ALbans the West Hempstead Branch is rather ridiuclous since it is mostly Babylon trains that stop there, yet that is how their timetables are formatted. |
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Posted by ChicagoMotorman on Mon Nov 22 13:57:17 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!! THAT WAS SO COOL!!!!!!!!!!! THANK YOU!!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Mon Nov 22 16:01:23 2021, in response to [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Q23 on Sun Nov 21 06:28:33 2021. Huge crowd. Plus a helluva long dwell time, I guess to let them all out. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 22 19:58:39 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 07:21:41 2021. My late grandparents moved out to Calverton in the '70's.I would drive over the grade crossing where I saw this tiny grey shelter which didn't even have a concrete slab on the ground, just dirt. At least it had a Calverton sign. Over time, even after they left for the nursing home, every so often I would go out of my way to cross the grade crossing, the last time on a tour bus about 4 years ago long after the station was closed when the bi-levels showed up. That tiny grey shelter was still there, obviously very weather beaten. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Nov 22 20:12:26 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 22 02:26:10 2021. The 2 Wrestling Companies with roots in this area have upcoming events there.WWE has Monday Night Raw one week from tonite; AEW has Wednesday Night Dynamite sometime next month IIRC. There's a billboard visible from the eastbound I495 (LI Expy) at the LIRR underpass that flashes the UBS schedule. |
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Posted by Dyre Dan on Tue Nov 23 07:11:16 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Pelham Exp on Sun Nov 21 08:52:20 2021. The arena website actually recommends using the Belmont Park station (or the Queens Village station) after games/events.https://ubsarena.com/plan-your-trip/ |
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Posted by 3-9 on Tue Nov 23 10:51:31 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by Joe V on Mon Nov 22 07:22:38 2021. Wow, SUNY Stony Brook outgrew the original campus by that much? The campus in Stony Brook is huge! Knowing them, they probably have a shuttle bus going to the nearest LIRR station as well as the original campus. I wonder if that means they'll go back to hosting sci-fi conventions... |
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Posted by Joe V on Tue Nov 23 11:01:05 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by 3-9 on Tue Nov 23 10:51:31 2021. SUNY has part of the Southampton campus. I don't think they occupied all of it. They do run Stony Brook - Southampton Campus shuttle buses. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Nov 23 11:51:28 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by 3-9 on Tue Nov 23 10:51:31 2021. No university-operated shuttle between SUNY Southampton and the LIRR, the school recommends that students looking for the LIRR use a taxi or ride share service. Suffolk Transit runs an on-demand service that serves the campus and Southampton LIRR station among other destinations upon request, but no mention of it on the university’s website. |
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Posted by GojiMet86 on Tue Nov 23 19:24:14 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by nasadowsk on Sun Nov 21 08:05:56 2021. I'm looking at Google Earth of the most recent satellite image of the new arena.It is a very long walk from Elmont to the arena, about 0.60 miles, like walking from Madison Avenue to 8th Avenue. |
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Posted by pragmatist on Tue Nov 23 20:06:21 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by GojiMet86 on Tue Nov 23 19:24:14 2021. It is, but a free shuttle bus is available. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Tue Nov 23 21:45:51 2021, in response to Re: [Video] New Elmont Station, posted by GojiMet86 on Tue Nov 23 19:24:14 2021. really, this station is a pretty useless expenditure of money. don't get me wrong, i like any new train station. however this is really dopey. the closest residential area is what i suppose is the queens section of bellrose. i guess drivers on the cross island parkway could hypothetically use it. but that's a pretty damn compact congested area. not alot of room for major highway reconstruction hijinks. and nobody is gonna be building jersey-style apartment towers in that weird little corner of long island.nope. service to the existing belmont station should have been improved. the smart money should have bypassed belmont and went to what's coming up at ronkonkoma. i've read serious discussion of a direct connection to macarthur airport from the train station via a nice long elevated "slidewalk". |
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