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[PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 16:36:42 2017  System: New York City Transit...Location: US DOT Test Facility, Pueblo, Colorado...Car: R-42 (St. Louis, 1969-1970) 4764-65... Collection of: David Pirmann...Date: 3/16/1976 |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 8 16:53:22 2017, in response to [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 16:36:42 2017. I presume the upper 4700's are among the ~347 that got scrapped ? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 17:29:33 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 8 16:53:22 2017. R-42 Detailed roster.Scroll down to very bottom of page to Detailed Roster. Roster shows cars out of service and off the property. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 8 17:48:36 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 17:29:33 2017. Sank off the Delaware coast. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 8 17:59:18 2017, in response to [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 16:36:42 2017. A yard (ENY) full of R-42s catchin some "Z" s on a weekend awhile back
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Posted by Joe V on Sun Oct 8 19:25:34 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 8 17:59:18 2017. That's when they were pretty organized about relegating them to just rush hour use.I know the first Z train in the morning go back to Jamaica, and stays in J service all day. The rest go back to only ENY and go to sleep. That photo must be them.m |
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[PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 21:40:03 2017, in response to [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 16:36:42 2017.   
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 8 22:11:42 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 21:40:03 2017. Wow, never saw a pre-GOH interior pic before... the ceiling lights make it look like a strange pre-R44/46. |
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 8 22:17:36 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 8 22:11:42 2017. I remember it well. I rode on the R-42s when they were new. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 8 22:21:44 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sun Oct 8 17:59:18 2017. sZemp sound asleep. |
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 8 22:23:06 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 8 22:11:42 2017. Surely you've seen their appearance in The French Connection? |
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 8 22:29:39 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Oct 8 22:17:36 2017. I rode them when they were like this. Guaranteed at least 2 cars in every consist was dark.
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Posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Oct 8 22:35:11 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 8 22:29:39 2017. Those were the BEST cars to ride in! |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Oct 8 22:35:20 2017, in response to [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 16:36:42 2017. I remember this pair well as they retained the blue interior for many years while the others had long been painted the tan w/orange doors. They spent many of their years assigned to Concourse. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Sun Oct 8 22:36:00 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Oct 8 22:35:11 2017. Yup! Especially, if the A/C was working. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:41:32 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 8 22:29:39 2017. The baaaaaaaad old days.Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Sun Oct 8 22:44:09 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 21:40:03 2017. Check out the very rare decal--(cab wall)"little enough to ride for free,,little enough to ride your knee". WE-44 |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:46:53 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by WayneJay on Sun Oct 8 22:35:20 2017. I remember this pair well as they retained the blue interior for many years while the others had long been painted the tan w/orange doors. They spent many of their years assigned to Concourse.Assigned to the (D). That's when I was surprised when it pulled into Atlantic Ave station, seeing a two tone interior. Then, I rode it to Brighton Beach where I took those pictures.That pair was basically a new R-42 that was kept out in Colorado longer than needed. Steve Zabel told me of the story behind this. He stated that UMTA called the TA and asked them if they want this pair back. Steve told me the car numbers #4764-65 was on the roster, but no one knew where they were. :-) Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:48:17 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Westcode44 on Sun Oct 8 22:44:09 2017. Check out the very rare decal--(cab wall)"little enough to ride for free,,little enough to ride your knee". WE-44 Were those decals in all cars as late as 1980 ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:51:35 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Sun Oct 8 22:11:42 2017. Wow, never saw a pre-GOH interior pic before... the ceiling lights make it look like a strange pre-R44/46.You needed those center fluorescent lights to compensate for the back lit car cards. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sun Oct 8 23:01:30 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 8 22:29:39 2017. I think I would rather have walked, assuming the streets were actually safe in those days. |
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Steamdriven on Sun Oct 8 23:19:09 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 8 22:29:39 2017. and to think that hipsters would rather go back to the "authentic" New York of those days. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:22:40 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Steamdriven on Sun Oct 8 23:19:09 2017. They way they whine about the Subway today? They wouldn't last two minutes. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Oct 8 23:31:09 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:22:40 2017. Two seconds, even. Never mind the ammonia smell being ten times stronger. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:34:22 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by BILLBKLYN on Sun Oct 8 22:35:11 2017. Not at that time. Judging from the rollsign, this picture was taken sometime between '86 and '88 during the Manny B closure. During that time the Washington Heights/Concourse B, D and K trains were exclusively R42s. During the summer there was no air conditioning at all on those cars.I knew a lot of people who lived along the CC & D trains and during the summer they would avoid them like the plague. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:35:33 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:22:40 2017. LOL. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:39:02 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Oct 8 22:29:39 2017. To think today people are complaining about the "cleanliness" of the subway today. They just don't have a clue. |
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:40:16 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:34:22 2017. No A/C in A/C car is brutal. Sure made one appreciate Axiflow Fans. |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:40:57 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:39:02 2017. They really have no idea how good they have it. |
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Posted by Catfish 44 on Sun Oct 8 23:54:17 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:40:57 2017. They don't care either they just are too spoiled to realize it. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:57:40 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:40:16 2017. Hell, it was so bad you would appreciate the R10s. LOL. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Oct 9 00:08:13 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Ian Lennon on Sun Oct 8 23:40:57 2017. Countdown clocks and WI-FI. "What the hell is a WI-FI?" one would probably say in the'80s.Back then your "countdown clock" was when you hear a roar, the train was coming. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 9 16:21:00 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:57:40 2017. There were 2 weeks in July 1969 that I had an early AM run on the A. On the way to work, I always got an R-42 with fully functional A/C but since I was dressed for midday temperatures, the ride was too cold. During the entire 2 weeks I had that run, I only got an R-42 for one half trip. The rest of the time I had to put up with the mini fans of the R-10s. |
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Posted by randyo on Mon Oct 9 16:22:12 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Oct 9 00:08:13 2017. LOL. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 9 17:05:18 2017, in response to [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 16:36:42 2017. WOw!! They cleaned it up well for its trip out west... |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 9 17:09:13 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:46:53 2017. Why were they sent out there, anyway? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Mon Oct 9 19:03:52 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 9 17:09:13 2017. Why were they sent out there, anyway?Propulsion testing. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 9 19:07:49 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by randyo on Mon Oct 9 16:21:00 2017. That must have been just before Borgaschmord trains started to proliferate. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 9 19:08:08 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:41:32 2017. Very bad indeed. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 9 19:09:10 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Oct 9 00:08:13 2017. Especially if it was a Thunderbird consist. |
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Posted by Bzuck on Mon Oct 9 19:13:00 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 9 17:05:18 2017. They did not clean them up. They were brand new. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Oct 9 19:44:07 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by MainR3664 on Mon Oct 9 17:05:18 2017. They went directly from St. Louis car to Pueblo. They got to NYC after Pueblo was done with them. |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Mon Oct 9 20:21:04 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 9 19:09:10 2017. Oh yes. Boy do I miss them-except during the summer. That's when I'd take a R44 over a R10 anytime. |
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Posted by WayneJay on Mon Oct 9 21:04:27 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Mon Oct 9 19:44:07 2017. That's what I was thinking since they had no graffiti. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Mon Oct 9 21:37:12 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 22:48:17 2017. No not all, mainly R32-R42's,,,WE-44 |
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Posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Tue Oct 10 03:54:04 2017, in response to [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Bill Newkirk on Sun Oct 8 21:40:03 2017. My God I miss those rollsigns. Thanks for posting. |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Tue Oct 10 08:10:09 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by Bzuck on Mon Oct 9 19:13:00 2017. They did not clean them up. They were brand new..When I took my photos in Brighton Beach, except for graffiti, those cars were new. It didn't look like years of wear and dirt from being used consantly. Even the blue paint on the walls was shiny and clean. The floor tiles didn't have the appearance of years of wear. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 10 17:29:47 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTO] R-42's In Colorado, posted by WayneJay on Mon Oct 9 21:04:27 2017. For about the first year of service, the R-42s experienced little if any graffiti. The graffiti epidemic didn’t really start till 1970. |
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Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos) |
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Posted by randyo on Tue Oct 10 17:36:28 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Oct 9 19:07:49 2017. When the R-42s first showed up they were assigned in groups to the various lines that received them and usually kept in solid trains especially on the A. Occasionally, a mixed train of 32s and 42s would show up on the D, and in Queens mixed trains of 38s, 40s (both straight and slant) and 42s on the E and F. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Oct 10 22:13:17 2017, in response to Re: [PHOTOS] R-42's In Colorado (Newkirk Photos), posted by Far Rockaway A Train on Sun Oct 8 23:34:22 2017. They were dangerous. They were the unofficial smoking cars, not always tobacco. However, they were fun to ride when used on the CPW express tracks. The strobe effect of the tunnel lighting as you sped along was psychedelic effect. I tended to avoid these cars unless it was rush hour, when they were full by default. |
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