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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 25 23:24:41 2016 Greetings everyone!!! Well, here we are again; The TMNY is on the move once again as a major event is in the works on 09/11/2016 as we formally dedicate the PATH PA-1 car # 143 in the memory of those who were lost in the wake of the terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center. The "Goal" here is to eventually construct a new wing to our existing car barn in which to house the 143 and our related 09/11 artifacts. Despite some "Naysayers" right here on this very page we are a museum moving forward no matter what some people here might say. So we will dispense with all the negativity and will focus instead on all positive gains we have made at the TMNY over the last few years. But first, lets take it back just a bit as a historical prospective to give some of you here a different prospective on things:In September, 2014 as a brand new group of volunteers arrived at the museum (some for the very first time) this is what they saw: A museum teetering on the edge, having almost hit bottom. There was very little activity going on with only one active restoration project: former NYCTA R-16 subway car # 6398. At the time our newly formed group arrived this was the car in which helped to begin the rebirth of the museum. More on that later. Just about all of the other cars in the museum'c collection were neglected and worn, some of them left to the elements and stored outside for many years. It was time to make some changes. Shortly after our group's arrival in Kingston some of the "Old guard" there scoffed at our new group and it's initial enthusiasm. Our first "Volunteer Day Event" was held in September, 2014 and was such a success that another event was quickly scheduled for October and then one final event was held just before the weather turned cold that November. Clearly we were on to something! As work on the R-16 progressed our group began to eye future projects for there was (and is) a great deal to do up there. As things began to progress i started asking about some of the other equipment in the museum's collection,and how we could bring things to a good state of repair. In October, 2014 i inquired as to the status of long stored "Whitcomb" built 65 Tonner Diesel # 9. This diesel was once an active locomotive at the museum but had not been run since "Superstorm Sandy" struck the area, partially flooding the museum site. It was time to find out if this beast could be brought back from the dead. Not even two months in and we were already tinkering with things long forgotten and left for dead. Diesel locomotives, especially 70 year old ones do not take kindly to long periods of inactivity. This locomotive did not come around easily and required a great deal of work before she would ever turn a wheel again. Of course we didnt know that as we charged her batteries and filled her old "Buda" built engines with cooling water. After we prepped her we tried starting her # 1 engine and: NOTHING! At least at first. Our volunteer group has some genuinely talented individuals who can be quite stubborn when it comes to getting things working. After some repeated tries and a great deal of starting fluid, the # 9 burbled back to life for the first time since 2003. It was truly a great day to have seen that! The # 9 would need additional repair before she could even move once again, but move she did! "Hat's Off" to everyone in our group who helped to get this beast operable once again! As our 2015 season got underway work continued on the R-16 subway car; Things were moving along nicely but there was far more to do. One of the sticking points of a project like this is that there is seemingly never enough people to pitch in and help. Several new people joined in to participate but it was (and still is) a hit or miss proposition. People have lives to live and it can be quite hard to assemble a work group on a particular date. Despite this, our group boasts some regulars, who sacrifice their time and money to head up to the museum to pitch in and help. I wish to thank each and every one of you. You know who you are. Our group has faced many road blocks and met them head on: Track work (Probably the single hardest job to do) Car repair, Grounds clean up and just plain ol' getting down and dirty! Our group can do it all. I am proud of our guys and gals who do what needs to be done and chip in for what needs doing right out of their own pocket. I can on and on about what we have accomplished over the last two plus years so let me tell you what has been done: NYCTA R-16 subway car # 6398: Body work completed. Cosmetically restored. Completely repainted into the "Economy" MTA "Silver and Blue" paint scheme until the permanent "Silver and Blue" scheme can be applied. IRT "Low Voltage" car # 5600: Partially repainted into a pseudo IRT paint scheme with a green carbody w/ dark green roof. This car awaits a full restoration. Additional work will be done on this car in 2017. IND R-4 car # 825: Replica number plates installed giving this car it's identity back after the original plates were removed many years ago. Interior work on this car started Spring,2016 abd is progressing as of this writing. Boston "All Electric" PCC # 3204. Body work started Spring,2016 after being left outside to the elements for many years. Car will be repainted into the green MBTA paint scheme but plans are very much in the works for repainting into the "as delivered" orange MTA paint scheme in 2017. Stay tuned! PATH PA-1 car # 143: A true survivor of the 09/11 terrorist attacks on the World Trade Center site and one of the "Jewels" in the museum's collection; Limited car body repair on the car's roof and large windows re-installed after they were were kicked in by search parties looking for survivor's in the days following the collapse of the Twin tower's. This car is considered an "Artifact" and is for display purposes only. This car will NOT be used as an in service car at the museum, for it is a silent reminder of what happened on that dark day in American history. B&QT "Clark" built PCC # 1000: Another "Jewel" in the collection is this "One of a kind" PCC car; "Scope of work" started and exterior carbody repair started. Another car well underway as of this writing. Brill built Model 55 Doodlebug car # 120: Still one more car under repair after having sat dormant for many years after the cars engine was torn down but never completely repaired. This car's engine has been reassembled and is slowly being restored for service, giving the museum two operating cars for probably the first time in its history in Kingston. This car is expected to re-enter service for the 2017 operating season. Plans are to repaint this car into a brand new paint scheme. So, for those who persist in saying that nothing is going on here that could be further from the truth. Things are indeed happening! Change has finally come to a museum that once teetered on the brink. I am proud to have been a part of a talented group of individuals who have done great things in the short time we have been at this. Of course you dear reader have to be the judge so why not come up for a visit one sunny weekend? $6.00 bucks for a ride on the Johnstown,PA. Trolley and a walk around the museum grounds to see all that is happening here. You are all welcome to come on up! Oh, did i mention we have a "Member's Day" event in the works? Here is your chance to join the museum and be a part of a special exclusive event not open to the general public. You guys are not going to miss this one! Additional details coming soon! I can state all of the positive things we have done thus far but it is up to all of you here to actually "Support" our museum. Nope, sorry to say it but no one here makes that kind of bread to keep an operation afloat out of pocket. We depend on YOU, the riding public to support our mission which is to preserve these old machines so that future generations can see and ride them. Please support us if you can, by making the trip upstate and by buying a ticket. No one in our group is getting rich off of this for every dollar earned helps to pay the bills and to keep our trolley operational. Thank you for reading, and please don't let a few naysayer's sway your opinion-decide for yourself. Thank you. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 26 02:40:05 2016, in response to the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 25 23:24:41 2016. Hey..Good for YOU.Keep up the good work. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 07:35:59 2016, in response to the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 25 23:24:41 2016. Considering that there are VERY few other PA-1 cars left in existence, I think it is completely inappropriate to not run the car and use it as an "in service car". You would in no way be doing anything ethically or morally wrong by running the car. There is plenty of precedent for operating a vehicle involved in a sad event. So.....? Operate the car and maybe I'd come up and visit. I'd even send in a donation towards restoring the car to operation. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 26 07:57:34 2016, in response to the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 25 23:24:41 2016. I applaud your efforts. Best of luck to you :) |
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Posted by The silence on Fri Aug 26 09:32:22 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 07:35:59 2016. have you considered they might not be allowed to? |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 26 09:36:36 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by The silence on Fri Aug 26 09:32:22 2016. No, I have not considered that as a valid excuse. Have you? |
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Posted by The silence on Fri Aug 26 10:17:34 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 26 09:36:36 2016. Yes, it might have been in the agreement the cars are to be display only.That and the fact they got a blind car... |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 26 10:30:18 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by The silence on Fri Aug 26 10:17:34 2016. Then they can run it behind a seeing-eye motor. |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 26 11:11:35 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 26 10:30:18 2016. W1n |
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Posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 26 11:15:51 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by The silence on Fri Aug 26 10:17:34 2016. Yes, it might have been in the agreement the cars are to be display only.Why would that be in the agreement? And who would agree to that kind of bullsh#t?? If it is for display only then put it inside MoMa or something. If you're going to take it to a place that has rails, and there's no technical reason why it can't be run, then run it! That and the fact they got a blind car...That in no way prevents it from being used as an in service car at the museum. Otherwise, why would he have even mentioned it????? Think before posting, dude! |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Aug 26 13:21:31 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 07:35:59 2016. Considering that there are VERY few other PA-1 cars left in existence, I think it is completely inappropriate to not run the car and use it as an "in service car".I have no comment. I'd like to hear comments from volunteers at the TMNY and see if they agree or disagree. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Aug 26 13:44:47 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by The silence on Fri Aug 26 10:17:34 2016. "Yes, it might have been in the agreement the cars are to be display only."This is the first time I've heard any of that type of speculation. Who would be in possession of this "agreement" if it even exists ? Would it be in writing, verbal, handshake?? Just wondering. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 26 14:17:24 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Spider-Pig on Fri Aug 26 10:30:18 2016. Assuming a seeing eye motor or preferably two seeing eye motors are available. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 26 14:19:09 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 26 11:15:51 2016. How would YOU operate a blind car with no operating controls at either end? |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Aug 26 14:46:04 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 26 14:19:09 2016. How would YOU operate a blind car with no operating controls at either end?Towed by something with controls. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 26 14:53:57 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by MainR3664 on Fri Aug 26 07:57:34 2016. THAT,My friend...is the Proper response. |
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Posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Aug 26 14:58:00 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by terRAPIN station on Fri Aug 26 11:15:51 2016. Here again you are wrong.They can be and have been terms from an entity, being goverment or private, stipulating what you can and can not do to or with the artifact after acquiring it. I am not privy to what TMNY terms were in this particular car. |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Aug 26 16:18:06 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Aug 26 14:46:04 2016. That would assume that yo had another piece of rolling stock with a compatible drawhead or and adaptor if a compatible drawhead is not available. Means would also have to be provided to insure safe operation of the brakes on the towed unit which doesn’t seem likely with what I have seen of the current TMNY equipment roster. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 16:54:06 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Aug 26 14:46:04 2016. Exactly!!! So obvious!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 16:54:44 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 26 16:18:06 2016. It could be worked out. Not an issue. |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 16:59:22 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Lou from Brooklyn on Fri Aug 26 14:58:00 2016. Here again I am NOT wrong. And what other times have I been wrong enough that this gets a "here again"???Anyhow, of course such stipulations exist. But in this situation such a stipulation world be stupid. Which is my point... But surely you are privvy to the terms your museum agreed to! Care to shed some relevant light? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 17:03:42 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Fri Aug 26 13:44:47 2016. Thank you!!! |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 17:13:42 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Aug 26 13:21:31 2016. Why do you have no comment??? You really don't care one way or the other? |
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Posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 17:15:50 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 26 14:53:57 2016. No it's not. There are an infinite number of proper responses since no question was asked or answered. |
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Posted by Joe V on Fri Aug 26 18:54:00 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by randyo on Fri Aug 26 14:19:09 2016. What would it take to make compatible, both motors and brakes, a NYCTA SMEE car with a PA car ? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Fri Aug 26 20:08:15 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 17:15:50 2016. What You are looking for is JUSTIFICATION for you being an asshole bore...There isnt,so stop looking. But,since there wasnt a question asked...just an out and out statement from the OP and the person I WAS RESPONDING TO..your bullshit has been regulated to the crap pile where it belongs. Stop word humping,bitch. |
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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 21:07:22 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 07:35:59 2016. Interesting question. But i have to point out your comment: "Operate the car and MAYBE i'd come up and visit". Further,"I'd even send in a donation toward restoring the car to operation". So i have to ask: Why not do that anyway? It "IS" the only PA-1 that exists now. Further, why not come up to the museum to volunteer? We can always use more help. This applies to anyone here reading this. We need responsible individuals who are willing to volunteer. Who here is willing to get their hands dirty? Any one here willing to accept the challenge? |
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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 21:28:24 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Bill Newkirk on Fri Aug 26 13:21:31 2016. Bill Newkirk and others: Since you were the only one who actually bothered to ask for a comment from anyone from the TMNY i posed the question to our mechanical Department today to see what needs to be done in order to make the PA-1 an operable car. As most of you might know our PA-1 is a "C" car, lacking an operating cab on either end. As it sits right now the 143 is equipped with "Ohio Brass" type couplers and can be moved without air using an adapter coupler along with our IND Flatcar along with Diesel # 9. In order for the car to be coupled with air to the flatcar (which has an H2a coupler on one end) the Ohio Brass couplers need to be removed and replaced with an H2 type coupler so air can flow into the 143 so that its air brakes (which do work by the way) can be applied and released.Further, to operate the 143 in a train consist it can indeed be done.Using Diesel # 9 as the lead unit along with Flatcar F401 with the 143 sandwiched in between. The cab on the other end would be provided by R-16 # 6398. An odd, one of a kind consist that can be seen no where else! The PA-1 has been coupled to the R-16 before using an adapter coupler as the cars in the museum's collection were shuffled about the museum grounds earlier this year. To operate "In service" though the PA-1 must have working air brakes. I hope this clears up any questions you might have. |
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Posted by ren on Fri Aug 26 21:54:32 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 21:07:22 2016. Nope.And you still don't get it. You still can't grasp why nobody wants to go there. I am very glad I am no longer involved in the volunteering effort. I thought I would miss it, but then I realized there is nothing productive to miss other than hanging out. I spent LOTS of money and many hours of my time going up there and attempting to help and I now see it was all a colossal waste. That place is too far gone to be helped by volunteers. That is what happens when you let cliques run the show. One more thing: McGinty and at least three others who are involved up there at TMNY are current or former transit employees who make (or made) six figures annually. There is one person there who retired from transit recently who made $140k in their last year with the MTA and is now helping themselves to a nice fat pension. Remember that when you think about contributing a donation. All the expenses are paid at TMNY by these individuals who collectively pass the hat around among themselves to pay for the utilities and other expenses, and believe me those expenses are not paid for from members' dues. This will be my last post here about TMNY. I am finished with this garbage. But in closing, I would like to point out that here is a tool company called GRAINGER. They have a slogan: "For the ones who get it done". That slogan is the very antithesis of what goes on up there. |
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Posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 22:26:43 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ren on Fri Aug 26 21:54:32 2016. REN: Lets get the facts right for you are distorting the truth here for your benefit and frankly i'm sick and tired of it. In any group of individuals there is always that one "odd ball" and you were THAT guy. My bullshit meter began twitching when we met for the first time before heading up to the museum. Let's not distort the truth: You never spent LOTS of money as you claim, buying two Tee shirts (at a discount!), a gallon of paint for the low V and making the "M" decals for the R-16. You never contributed for gas and tolls and were a general all around pain in the ass when you were there for you claimed to know and see all, but all you can see is your reflection in your computer monitor as you type the bullshit you preach.You know why you were thrown out with that crap with the keys to the place forcing the museum President to get involved in order to have them returned. THAT is why you were removed from the place-Nothing more. Enough.Further, you splash my personal information around for all to see. IF i made 100K as you claim, i EARNED it! You talk about suing people for talking poorly about you, Awww, poor baby how about you grow a pair? I am done with you but i will leave you with this: Please buy some deodorant-You were killing the guys in the car you were riding in. Enough of your bullshit-I have a museum to help run. |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Aug 26 23:52:01 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 22:26:43 2016. +100 |
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Posted by ren on Fri Aug 26 23:59:38 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 22:26:43 2016. Yeah, no distortions here, buddy: The museum president PERSONALLY gave me the keys in her office. You were jealous and upset and forced her to demand their return. You knew they were NOT stolen. I have your written statements as proof. In fact, the very day she gave me those keys you were aware of that and asked me to lock up at the museum after you left. And everyone in the group that day knew she gave me those keys. So you knew they were not stolen, and everything would have been fine and dandy if you had not been such a meanie towards me. That will carry consequences for you shortly.Now let's look at some other proof: I purchased tools, TWO gallons of specially mixed green paint (which wasn't cheap) with brushes and spent over $200 on decals that your "talented group of volunteers" was too miserly to order, in addition to your two shirts and key chains - over $300. That's more than any of the other volunteers in your clique spent COMBINED. I think the gas and tolls can be forgiven me. Of course, when you make $2,000 a week, $300 might seem like nothing, but wait 'til you see a very different kind of bill you're about to get......it'll pay for PLENTY of deodorant...... |
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Posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 00:07:05 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Fri Aug 26 23:52:01 2016. Is that your salary? Or IQ score? Maybe the combined total of both? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 27 00:21:21 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ren on Fri Aug 26 23:59:38 2016. Damn,son.Seriously? Whatchu goin so hard for? You Did volunteer,right? You Did *VOLUNTEER*,Right? |
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Posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 00:59:48 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Edwards! on Sat Aug 27 00:21:21 2016. Yeah, you're right. But---he's calling me a ÷#@$& THIEF! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 27 05:07:44 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 00:07:05 2016. No but I'm sure your IQ and salary are a lot lower. Ha! Ha! Ha! |
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Posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 27 06:54:41 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 21:28:24 2016. So a diesel push-pull train with the R16 being the "cab car" ?What would it take to put hostler controls on the PA1 ? |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Aug 27 07:41:36 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 21:28:24 2016. I hope this clears up any questions you might have.Thank you, my concern was not so much as running the car, but does the TMNY want to keep 143 as a static exhibit. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Aug 27 07:44:08 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 17:13:42 2016. Why do you have no comment??? You really don't care one way or the other?I do care. I already stated my position, so no need to repeat it. I wanted to hear from the TMNY as to make 143 a static exhibit or make it road worthy. Nobody asked this question, so I figured why not. Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by Bill Newkirk on Sat Aug 27 07:48:49 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Fri Aug 26 21:07:22 2016. Further, why not come up to the museum to volunteer?Maybe he doesn't own a car ? Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 09:26:31 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 27 05:07:44 2016. Maybe that's why your wife and mom enjoyed our threesome with me so much. They wanted to raise their standards for a change. |
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Posted by priya12 on Sat Aug 27 11:32:31 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 09:26:31 2016. Proof right there that Robert is not playing with a full deck. My only questions is where exactly do you sit on the autism spectrum? |
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Posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Aug 27 11:58:05 2016, in response to the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ENY Blitz 5107 on Thu Aug 25 23:24:41 2016. Thank you for that detailed and informative update. The TMNY has come a long way since you had four trolleys sitting in the Saint George freight yard. Please ignore the small group of knuckleheads on this board. They really have nothing to do but contemplate the magnificence of their own navels. Keep up the good work.Larry, RedbirdR33 |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 27 13:46:18 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by priya12 on Sat Aug 27 11:32:31 2016. Good one! |
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Posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 27 13:47:36 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 09:26:31 2016. Struck a nerve I see. HA! HA! HA! You lose! :P |
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Posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 13:53:09 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by SUBWAYMAN on Sat Aug 27 13:47:36 2016. What I really don't understand is why you would back McGinty up. If he ran anything in the private sector like he does TMNY he would have been removed and replaced long ago. But no, he's applauded here. Then he accuses me of shit. |
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Posted by ren on Sat Aug 27 14:01:02 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by IRTRedbirdR33 on Sat Aug 27 11:58:05 2016. If you call TMNY's current condition good work then I wonder what in tarnation you consider a bad job. Naturally, you didn't put in any efforts there, just like a true keyboard jockey, which in any event, are dwarfed by my efforts and donations to TMNY. I didn't see you up there even once all the times I was there, nor contribute anything. Maybe you're the self-contemplator. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 27 16:41:22 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by TerrApin Station on Fri Aug 26 16:54:44 2016. The key word here is SAFELY! If a safe method of towing the car cannot be achieved, then it is a no go. Also, keep in mind that since TMNY like Shore Line lacks a loop the dead car would have to be pushed on its return trip which is not a very safe operation al all. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Aug 27 16:44:25 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by Joe V on Sat Aug 27 06:54:41 2016. Installing hostler controls on the PA1 would compromise its originality. |
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Posted by Fisk Ave Jim on Sat Aug 27 19:03:31 2016, in response to Re: the Trolley Museum of New York-The climb upward towards Respectibility, posted by randyo on Sat Aug 27 16:41:22 2016. Now it could messy...enter insurance/liability issues. |
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