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The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 24 08:42:15 2012 And so, seventy-five years ago today, the Independent Subway System (or the IND) extended its Queensboro line towards the Jamaica section in the borough of Queens. Four new stations opened on that date back then: Van Wyck Boulevard, Sutphin Boulevard, Parsons Boulevard and 169th Street.At first, "E" trains began using that route at the time. Today, it is the "F" train that make all stops in that section, but there are the "E" trains stop at Van Wyck Boulevard (except on weekdays until 7:30pm) plus limited rush hour service to/from 179th Street (alternating with its current full time terminal at Parsons/Archer-Jamaica Center). -William A. Padron [">-168th St->"] |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 08:59:01 2012, in response to The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 24 08:42:15 2012. Aside from the short term "R" train, what other trains served this area? |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Lance52 on Tue Apr 24 09:14:38 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 08:59:01 2012. The (G) trains ran to 179 St during the overnight hours in the early '90s when the (F) terminated at 21 St-Queensbridge. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 24 09:16:13 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 08:59:01 2012. I believe for a while that "G" trains did go up in that area, but only during the nighttime hours, towards 179th Street. When just prior to the opening of the Archer Avenue extension, there were actual signs made up to have "N" trains (and nighttime "G" shuttles)at least go through and stop at Van Wyck Boulevard, but never happened.-William A. Padron ["<-144th St-<"] |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 09:25:17 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 24 09:16:13 2012. I believe , for s short period after 09/11/01 some G.O traffic saw "Q" or "W" trains. I'm not sure and it was a very brief period of time. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 24 13:50:27 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 09:25:17 2012. Q used 71ST..W ASTORIA. J/M 4TH AVENUE to Sea Beach[M] and 95th st[J] |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 24 13:59:14 2012, in response to The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 24 08:42:15 2012. The BMT got there 20 years earlier. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 24 14:00:13 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 09:25:17 2012. The circle Q ran only to Continental Ave. The W ran to Astoria. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 24 14:01:37 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 08:59:01 2012. R: 1988-1992G: 1992-1999 E: 1937-1988 |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 21:28:56 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 24 13:59:14 2012. I remember the standards going through the 11Th St. Cut.Did Triplexes ever run on Queens Blvd? That would have been a sight. Running side by side with the R1/9's |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by andy on Tue Apr 24 22:33:43 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 21:28:56 2012. When the 11th St. cut opened in Dec. 1955, Standards covered that route. Don't believe any Triplexes ever used it (they were normally found on the Brighton and West End Expresses in the 50s and 60s). When the R27s came on the scene in 1960 some of the first ones were assigned to the Brighton and 4th Ave. Locals which served the Queens Blvd. line. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Avid Reader on Wed Apr 25 10:37:20 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by andy on Tue Apr 24 22:33:43 2012. Would be nice to have a fantrip on the triplexes down CPW and on Queens BLVD express all the way to 179Th Street.I missed the run to the Rockaways. Sometimes, hindsight sucks. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Apr 25 10:58:14 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 21:28:56 2012. Did Triplexes ever run on Queens Blvd?Only on fan trips. |
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Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 25 13:28:21 2012, in response to The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by William A. Padron on Tue Apr 24 08:42:15 2012. Its funny - Van Wyck Boulevard opened as a station on this extension in 1937 but by 1950, the roadway for which it was named was gone, swallowed whole by the southern portion of Robert Moses' Van Wyck Expressway. Despite the passage of 62 years, the station was never renamed and its still one of the prime examples of an obsolete station name in the system. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 15:48:20 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Apr 25 10:58:14 2012. Wrong! Circa 1960, I rode a D type N/B on a Brighton Lcl on Qns Blvd. I boarded it at one of the local stations (I cant remember which one although it may have been 36 St) and I cant recall why I was boarding there since I lived in Manhattan at the time and was just railfanning that particular day. I rode it all the way to Ctl and back S/B to 34 St where I changed for an uptown IND train back home. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 25 15:59:03 2012, in response to Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 25 13:28:21 2012. Isn't the current name Jamaica-Van Wyck? |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 25 16:00:11 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 25 15:59:03 2012. My error. It's Briarwood - Van Wyck Blvd. You are right. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 16:01:20 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 25 15:59:03 2012. No, it's Van Wyck/Briarwood. Jamaica/Van Wyck is on the Archer Av branch. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Gene B. on Wed Apr 25 16:54:47 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by andy on Tue Apr 24 22:33:43 2012. I believe the Triplexes were used on the Brighton Express for both periods and on the Sea Beach Express into the early 1960's, while Standards were used on the West End Express until well into the 1960's. I used all three services in 1961 and that is the way it was. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Apr 25 17:13:05 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 15:48:20 2012. Y'sure it was'nt a diversion a/c possible service disruption going to Astotia?? Or maybe a misroute? |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 25 17:50:09 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 16:01:20 2012. The name tablets on the walls still boldly state "VAN WYCK BLVD." You can change the name on the pillars and on the maps, but the tablets are still wrong and have been wrong for over 60 years. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 18:02:59 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Apr 25 17:13:05 2012. The train was properly signed up for the Brighton Local and had the proper Brighton Lcl markers displayed. Around that time I also recall riding the occasional D type that mad a rush hour trip on the West End Exp. Also around that time in the Eastern Div, a Multi would make a rush hour trip on the Bway Bkln Lcl usually in the AM. It depends on what the yardmaster has available for service on any given day. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 18:04:01 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 25 17:50:09 2012. Why were the tablets wrong for over 60 Years? |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 25 18:41:59 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 18:04:01 2012. Because Van Wyck Boulevard ceased to exist as a street in 1950, when Robert Moses opened the southern portion of the Van Wyck Expressway. When that happened, the tablets started to refer to a non-existent street, much like Ely Avenue in Long Island City. Today, 62 years later, the wall tablets still refer to that non-existent street. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by merrick1 on Wed Apr 25 18:47:18 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 18:02:59 2012. I think the answer to the question of whether certain equipment EVER ran on a line is probably "yes" if it is physically possible for the equipment to have run there |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by merrick1 on Wed Apr 25 18:48:46 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Mitch45 on Wed Apr 25 18:41:59 2012. You could call it Main Street although that might be a little confusing. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Apr 25 18:49:10 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by randyo on Wed Apr 25 18:02:59 2012. You're right! I have a color slide of a Multi coming off of the Williamsburg Bridge headed north. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Apr 25 19:34:55 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by merrick1 on Wed Apr 25 18:47:18 2012. As far as triplexs' running to Forest Hills, I'm thinking in terms of regular service.I was a kid growing up in Woodside & when my folks took me on the "Independent" as they called it, getting on as 65th st, I rode it often. I never saw a D type running there, just R 1/9s & standards What struck me was the lack of front end destinations or route numbers or letters on the standards, often wondering how you knew what train you were getting on. Id ask my old man & he'd say, "you see a train commin in without nuttin in front, it was the BMT" Ah yes, the simple times. Forget about destination signs of P A's. Back then, if you knew the equiptment, you'd get on the right train |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 25 21:56:52 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Apr 25 19:34:55 2012. Marker lights. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by randyo on Thu Apr 26 14:39:43 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Apr 25 18:49:10 2012. Multis on the Willy B were a common sight since they were regularly assigned to Myrtle/Chambers after 1956. What was rare was to see them at stations on Jamaica Av between E/Pky and Jamaica. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 26 19:08:50 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by merrick1 on Wed Apr 25 18:48:46 2012. Does Willets Point Blvd. still exist? |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Thu Apr 26 21:07:23 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Jeff Rosen on Wed Apr 25 21:56:52 2012. Average "Joe Token" did'nt no nuthin from marker lights |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 26 21:12:10 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Fisk ave Jim on Thu Apr 26 21:07:23 2012. I would disagree. My aunts--certainly not train fans--knew the similar lights on IC Electrics and CTA L trains. Reading the lights was possible at a far greater distance than any destination sign--a critical issue when choosing whether to move away from the overhead heaters at Van Buren in the winter. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Fisk ave Jim on Thu Apr 26 21:49:33 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Jackson Park B Train on Thu Apr 26 21:12:10 2012. Well all I can say to that is New Yorkers would always be skeptical that the lights were set right. Anyway, if youre on a local platform along Queens Blvd back in the 50's goin to "the city", you saw a train wid signs in front, it was an IND. A train that "looked funny" with a hint of gothic style front windows & no signs, it was a BMT train.Fuggadabout what da lights looked like. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Italianstallion on Thu Apr 26 22:11:10 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 26 19:08:50 2012. Yes. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Apr 27 06:40:02 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Avid Reader on Tue Apr 24 21:28:56 2012. Where is the 11th st cut? No, don't say "11th st". |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Apr 27 07:18:11 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by randyo on Thu Apr 26 14:39:43 2012. Ok, thank you. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by TERRapin station on Fri Apr 27 07:39:18 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Apr 25 18:49:10 2012. So why don't you share it with everyone here? |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Fri Apr 27 07:51:07 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Stephen Bauman on Wed Apr 25 10:58:14 2012. Not true. I used the 11th Street cut almost daily when going to and from high school (my high school was in Manhattan; I lived in eastern Queens), and normally went between 60th-Lexington and Queens Plaza. On rare occasions, a Triplex appeared rather than the usual Standards. Twice, when a Triplex appeared, I rode it northbound to either Roosevelt or Continental. Never saw a Multi on that route, however. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Apr 27 10:32:33 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Apr 26 19:08:50 2012. Sure does. But the station itself hasn't been called Willets Point Boulevard for decades. When Shea Stadium opened in 1964, the station name was changed to "Willets Point - Shea Stadium", now referencing the area of Flushing called Willets Point, rather than the street known as Willets Point Boulevard. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by JFK DEPOT on Fri Apr 27 11:52:49 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 25 16:00:11 2012. It really should be " Briarwood - Main St " not what it is currently |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by JFK DEPOT on Fri Apr 27 11:55:55 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by JFK DEPOT on Fri Apr 27 11:52:49 2012. Or " Main St - Queens Blvd " or just " Main St - Van Wyck " |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Apr 27 12:52:19 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by italianstallion on Wed Apr 25 16:00:11 2012. According to the station's Wikipedia page:The station's original name was Van Wyck Boulevard. It was changed to Briarwood – Van Wyck Boulevard in 1988 to avoid confusion with Jamaica – Van Wyck on the IND Archer Avenue Line. This appears to be incorrect. Note that Briarwood doesn't appear as part of the station name on the January 1994 map. I did find an article (abstract) about the Briarwood Civic Association's name change campaign in 1997. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 13:16:17 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Kevin from Midwood on Fri Apr 27 12:52:19 2012. Indeed, I didn't see that name in use until the early 90's. The difference was necessitated by the confusion of the old and new stations on Van Wyck. I used to wonder why Jamaica-Van Wyck wasn't simply called "Jamaica Avenue", but I suppose they thought this name would confuse people into thinking they could transfer to the J here. They could have also used Metropolitan Ave. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Apr 27 13:41:34 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Apr 27 13:16:17 2012. Or for that matter, I sometimes wonder if the station could have been called "Jamaica-89 Avenues", since there is an entry/exit at 89th Avenue there. Back when the IND was being planned, the provision (now used for the Archer Avenue route) off the main QB route was going to lead into a terminal station to be called "Jamaica & Hillside Avenues". I recall seeing such a station like that in a 1931 Franklin Savings Bank issued subway map that was on display at the Transit Museum for many years.-William A. Padron ["<-85th Av"-<"] |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 14:02:52 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Edwards! on Tue Apr 24 13:50:27 2012. Although that was a terrible time for the USA and for NYC in particular, the RJ train was, in effect, reincarnated for a while. |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 14:04:41 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Apr 24 13:59:14 2012. You're (rightly) talking about the Jamaica Ave El :) |
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Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937) |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Fri Apr 27 14:10:10 2012, in response to Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937), posted by Fisk ave Jim on Wed Apr 25 19:34:55 2012. That still sort of holds true. In February 2010, I was on a packed rush hour R32, serving the B on CPW. Lots of people reacted if it was a C and even asked "what train is this"....and it was signed completely properly. I even said to one person "it looks like a C, but it's a B!". I was riding (as opposed to railfanning) from 167th in the Bronx to 47-50th. I can't remember if I started on the D and switched at 59th...it's possible that when I saw the R32 at 167th, I just got on. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Fri Apr 27 14:39:21 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by William A. Padron on Fri Apr 27 13:41:34 2012. (You would think by now I would have responded to this thread, based on my handle).I only started using the line in the 60s, so I remember the setup at the east end of the station, where they had the ramps there, but no tracks and no switches. I sometimes wish I had the bravery (or stupidity, depending on your point of view) to have climbed down there and walked down the ramp just to see how far it went. I remember also the F trains (when they were expresses) roaring thru the station at full speed on the express tracks. I also remember the stacks of trains on the express tracks when express trains weren't in service - on the 179th st bound site for layups and also on the Manhattan bound side when they were piling up to head to Jamaica yard (forcing all Manhattan bound trains to use the local track and the F not stopping at the station. |
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Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)) |
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Posted by TUNNELRAT on Fri Apr 27 15:53:16 2012, in response to Re: Van Wyck Boulevard (Re: The IND To Jamaica - 75 Years Ago (4/24/1937)), posted by FormerVanWyckBlvdUser on Fri Apr 27 14:39:21 2012. It ran to apx.hillside ave.there was NO tunnel built beyound the end of the tunnel.its the only part of the second system that was built & see`s train service. |
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