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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Aug 31 22:05:20 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 21:05:10 2010.

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Funny, we have fiber optic, and high capacity cable. The companies put them in around the same time each trying to be first, assuming that the company there first would get the business.

We use the telco for our phone and internet connection, both of which are 100% fiber optic. The telco even installed the optic cable from their phone drop to the closet where I keep my main NIC switch, a little over 300' on their own dime. Outages are rare. I could get faster service if I paid more.

We also have cable TV service, big thick new cable all through town.

Actually if I were to upgrade my bandwidth I would do it through the cable provider since that would give me two routes to the backbone.

You can get all services from either provider, but cable providers do not like servers on their customers networks. The phone company is ok with my running servers, and I can also relay through their MX at no cost.

LION thinks you need reliable companies in your town. The cable provider is Mid-Continent, and the telco provider is Consolidated (CTCTEL), a rural cooperative.



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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Aug 31 22:22:49 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Tue Aug 31 18:47:51 2010.

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Co-Op Association won't allow dishes to be installed

If you have a window that faces the SE sky, I'd suggest using the solution that a number of Canadians use with their illegal American satellite dishes, and install the unit yourself inside of your home near the window.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Tue Aug 31 22:26:05 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Aug 31 22:05:20 2010.

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You should expect 2 new residents. My father and I are coming to live with you guys :)

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Tue Aug 31 22:27:16 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Aug 31 22:22:49 2010.

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I actually thought of that but dunno who would service my apt w/am illegal dish :(

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Sep 1 11:39:17 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Aug 31 21:07:23 2010.

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Watch ESPN *not* disappear...

I don't want to count the fox in the henhouse or one in the hand is worth two in the bush or whatever that phrase is I'm looking for but I think you are right. Nothing official but word this morning is it'll get done.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by cortelyounext on Wed Sep 1 11:40:36 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Sep 1 11:39:17 2010.

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As soon as I posted that I realized the phrase I was searching for was the one about counting the chicken before it hatches.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:31:52 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by cortelyounext on Wed Sep 1 11:39:17 2010.

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Of course ... and the cable company lifted its sword from its quiver, waved it around and made every effort to stop the madness whilst pocketing another couple of bucks per subscriber per month for itself with the valid excuse. We'll be right back after this important message. :)

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:34:53 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Tue Aug 31 21:15:16 2010.

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Nope ... same folks, same shakedown. It was ABC (also Disney like ESPN) that did that, and FOX started the shakedowns prior. CBS is up in the fall and they'll be sure to be pulling more of the same since THIS trick works every time.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:36:58 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Aug 31 22:05:20 2010.

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Out here, we have Verizoff ... can you hear me *click* ... :(

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 14:38:12 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:34:53 2010.

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Yeah sadly and we all pay for it too :( TBH if we lose CBS I wouldn't be too upset as there isn't anything we watch on that channel, but would feel bad for those that do watch CBS.

Mr. Gov't needs to do something, I know everything was deregulated but maybe regulation wasn't so bad.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:38:55 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Tue Aug 31 22:27:16 2010.

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Wouldn't be illegal at all in NY ... you'll be told "this isn't a great idea because if you bump it, you'll lose the signal." The tech will be saying that repeatedly as he sets it up for you. :)

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:40:26 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Tue Aug 31 22:22:49 2010.

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Heh. The BIG trick is having a hoser in upstate New York to act as a billing address for you since they won't enable the box without a US Zip code.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 14:41:25 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:38:55 2010.

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I did once call DirectTV but they refused to even come :( They punched in my address and then said sorry :(

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:45:04 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by WillD on Tue Aug 31 21:38:54 2010.

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FiOS has been "suspended" nationally beause Wall Street doesn't think they're charging enough ... stories here:

http://www.dslreports.com/forum/r24737046-fiber-tech-FIOS-Buildout-Suspended-Ramifications

And here (gotta go down two to find it) ...

http://stopthecap.com/tag/verizon-fios/

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:56:09 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 14:38:12 2010.

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Mr. Government is a bunch of pussies afraid of their own gavels. Mr. WALLET on the other hand is meek and powerful. :)

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:56:51 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 14:41:25 2010.

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That means that your development has already threatened them. :(

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 15:11:00 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:56:09 2010.

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Yup :( Wish my wallet was that powerful, lol

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 15:12:08 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:56:51 2010.

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Yup :(

TWC has paid off the Co-Opr's so they will protect their funding :(

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 16:38:33 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 15:11:00 2010.

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A wallet of cobwebs still accomplishes more than the government ...

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 16:39:37 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 15:12:08 2010.

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NYS used to have a cable commission. It was against the rules for landlords to take kickbacks for "exclusivity" ... problem solved, agency was abolished, and so was that rule. GOT the picture yet?

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 17:35:05 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 16:38:33 2010.

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Sad but true

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Wed Sep 1 17:36:20 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 16:39:37 2010.

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Sadly yes

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 18:53:28 2010, in response to Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Aug 31 11:07:17 2010.

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Is it me or does the "whole internet" seem slow the last day or two?

I am wondering if other people are experiencing periodic very slow loading, some sites impossible to get into, etc.
I have optonline.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 19:05:15 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Sep 1 18:53:28 2010.

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There are serious hackings going on among the border routers as well as some serious DNS poisoning ongoing. And not all that much can be done beyond putting out each fire as it occurs.

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Thank you for the comparitive pix

Posted by Mellow One on Wed Sep 1 22:04:41 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 19:08:59 2010.

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Thank you for the comparitive pix and updates on those neighborhoods.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by Mellow One on Wed Sep 1 22:28:22 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Aug 31 20:05:13 2010.

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The Carmine St pic is in the Windows Live library.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Sep 2 07:36:27 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by Mellow One on Wed Sep 1 22:28:22 2010.

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Wow. That exact same scene today is COMPLETELY unrecognizable in any way:




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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SMAZ on Fri Sep 3 07:15:56 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Aug 31 19:08:59 2010.

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These pics are great.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Fri Sep 3 12:12:13 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:34:53 2010.

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You were right TWC just sent an e-mail to us announcing they reached a deal w/ESPN and ABC/Disney and to sugar coat it they will now offer some internet-based channels as well as a few new channels on cable.

They are BS.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by Randyo on Fri Sep 3 13:28:17 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Tue Aug 31 18:47:51 2010.

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I don't know if anyone in this thread has mentioned it but from what I was told,
under Federal law landlords and co op associations can't deny residents the right to install a dish if that is the resident's choice.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by Randyo on Fri Sep 3 13:39:18 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Sep 1 14:56:09 2010.

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That's unfortunate, but the times they are a changing and with the current dissatisfaction with the present officeholders on all levels of government, it wouldn't surprise me if the government of necessity does grow a pair big enough to put these big utilities in their place. What is needed is a government ready willing and able to enact regulations for ALL Industries and then enFORCE them to the absolute fullest extent of the law. If that means incarcerating every last business executive in the country in real PRISONS and not white collar country clubs then SO BE IT!!!

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Fri Sep 3 13:41:42 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by Randyo on Fri Sep 3 13:28:17 2010.

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I will look that up if so I am getting a dish :)

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 3 14:42:24 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by arnine on Fri Sep 3 12:12:13 2010.

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All part of the game ... politics works precisely the same, but this ain't the place for that one.

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by arnine on Fri Sep 3 14:50:44 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 3 14:42:24 2010.

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yup :)

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Re: Why does the site keep locking up?

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Sep 3 14:56:36 2010, in response to Re: Why does the site keep locking up?, posted by Randyo on Fri Sep 3 13:39:18 2010.

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Welllll ... this ain't the right crew room to go with it, but suffice it to say that the guided political "thinking" is that making companies do what is right and moral is the very modern definition of "communism" among the new "elite." Anything that gets in the way of the complete plundering of what's left is countered with screaming from those most affected by it all on behalf of those who could give a crap and want their bonuses multiplied for doing so. :(

Gotta leave it there, this is the wrong board for that ...

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