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Posted by van Nostrand on Sun Aug 29 14:24:09 2010, in response to ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 13:38:08 2010. A few years ago, when I heard this light rail was being built, I said I'd never set foot on these trains for fear of having my limbs segregated from my body. Suicide bombings seemed to hit the buses so often. But it has been so quiet over there lately. I'd love to give light rail a whirl if I ever make it there again. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 14:31:46 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by van Nostrand on Sun Aug 29 14:24:09 2010. I use public transportation in Israel all the time with no concerns at all. Things have been quiet, I attribute it to the security fence, among other things.Do come. Despite what you hear about Israel in the media and from certain poster on OTChat, it is a wonderful place and very safe to visit. If all goes well, I'll be here in Jerusalem when the light rail opens next year, and I'll be sure to post photos and videos of the construction progress until then. In the meantime, there are plenty of photos at my website, orenstransitpage.com. |
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 29 15:06:55 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 14:31:46 2010. "Despite what you hear about Israel in the media"I think Israel gets a bad rep from the media. The media sensationalizes everything including the unfortunate incidents. In the past I have foolishly taken their bait, but I do want to visit the country and hope to at some point in the future. As for the segregated cars, I think it wouldn't be out of the ordinary. At least it is for religious reasones, whereas in the Philippines they have women-only cars but it is for the safety of the women as in the past there were incidents of men groping the women on the light rail. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 15:17:09 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by arnine on Sun Aug 29 15:06:55 2010. They also have women only cars in Egypt for safety reasons.You say the division here would be for religious reasons and assume that is better. However, the issue in Israel is that the ultra-orthodox would like to impose their lifestyle on EVERYONE here, and would rather all buses (or the ones they use at least) be gender segregated. There are other ways in which they try to impose their lifestyle on others, including throwing rocks and rioting in response to the municipality opening a parking lot on a Saturday, insisting daylight savings end before Yom Kippur (meaning daylight savings will end this year on Sunday, September 12, and in 2013 it will end September 8, long before any other country that uses daylight savings), and are trying to give the Rabbinate as much control over issues such as conversion and determining who is Jewish as possible as part of a larger effort to delegitimize liberal forms of Judaism. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 29 15:22:18 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 15:17:09 2010. Japan has women only cars. The idea is to reduce fraturism.
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Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 29 16:07:31 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 15:17:09 2010. Ok, my apologies I didn't know. I also do not condone violence. I was ignorant on that and I apologize.Did not know Egypt had the segregation for safety reasons. Interesting. |
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Posted by numbersix on Sun Aug 29 17:28:15 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 29 15:22:18 2010. Eat less beans. You'll frat less. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Aug 29 17:40:15 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Aug 29 15:22:18 2010. Again that is for safety reasons and not for reactionary reasons. |
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Posted by Dan on Mon Aug 30 12:34:16 2010, in response to ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 13:38:08 2010. I understand the gender issue for the ultra-orthodox Jews. But why not have one car set aside for them with men on one side of the car and women on the other side. Place a curtain down the center like the private buses that serve orthodox communities here have done for years. BTW, will this light rail system operate on Saturdays? |
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Posted by Brighton Private on Mon Aug 30 12:45:38 2010, in response to ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 13:38:08 2010. I may not be the last word as an Halachic authority, but I am not aware of any religious requirement for segregated transportation facilities.There are no segregated El Al planes, no segregated Eged buses (that I am aware of), and somehow the haredi seem to manage to get around. Religious men and women ride in automobiles together all the time. If the problem is seeing immodestly dressed people, it is hard to see why the light rail system would pose a greater risk than walking down the street. This sounds to me like the rabbis throwing their weight around just because they can, to show who's boss. Just like their fundamentalist doppelgangers in the US Bible Belt, and like the mullahs in Iran and Saudi Arabia and elsewhere. Religious extremists are all the same; the specifics of their theology is nearly irrelevant. Anywhere they can get their hands on the levers of power, they will use them to coerce and intimidate, and impose their strict rules on everyone else. They are to be resisted, everywhere. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 12:53:43 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Dan on Mon Aug 30 12:34:16 2010. It will not operate during the Jewish Sabbath or festivals, but there will be service in the evening on Saturdays. Generally, public transit in Israel does not operate from 2 hours before sundown Friday until about an hour after sundown on Saturday. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 12:54:14 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Brighton Private on Mon Aug 30 12:45:38 2010. This sounds to me like the rabbis throwing their weight around just because they can, to show who's boss.You got it. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 14:17:16 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Brighton Private on Mon Aug 30 12:45:38 2010. Eh? The rabbis have not been "boss" in Israel or Jerusalem for a very long time. |
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Posted by Brighton Private on Mon Aug 30 14:42:51 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 14:17:16 2010. The orthodox rabbinate in Jerusalem wields considerable power, so much so that many more secular Jews have moved away from Jerusalem.Also, the membership of religious parties in various governing coalitions has resulted in a variety of laws passed to appease their interest, including laws relating to Jewish identity and conversion, public transportation on the Sabbath, military service of yeshiva students, and more. One does not have to be the Sanhedrin, running a formal theocracy, to wield political power. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 15:00:58 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 14:17:16 2010. Says one who denies the existence of the Palestinian people. You really do live in an alternate world. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 15:06:59 2010, in response to ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 13:38:08 2010. You're not afraid to link the ultra-liberal JTA, I hope . . . ? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 15:07:09 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 15:00:58 2010. Says one who denies the existence of the Palestinian peopleThe Palestinians denied it themselves. Remember Zuheir Mohsein's Truow interview back in 1977?
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 16:11:59 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 15:06:59 2010. Ultra liberal? Is anything not ultra liberal in your mind?The JTA website says "Headquartered in New York, JTA is a not-for-profit corporation governed by an independent Board of Directors. It has no allegiance to any specific branch of Judaism or political viewpoint. We receive funding from a diverse array of sources." (http://www.jta.org/about) I have no idea where you are right now, but I write this post from Jerusalem. I've been here for most of the past 15 months or so. Have you ever been here in your life? Do you actually know anything about Israel? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 16:17:31 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 16:11:59 2010. I know what JTA's website says. You can't be neutral of any religious or political viewpoint; one POV has to be the truth.And what does being in Jerusalem have to do with anything? There are people who visit Cuba and are convinced it's the paragon of freedom. BTW, was the Haredi rabbi an antizionist? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 16:23:34 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 16:17:31 2010. It was a group of seven rabbis who wrote a letter to the municipality, it does not identify who they are.Do you think the AP has a political bias? I've come to the conclusion you consider anything against your viewpoint to be leftist propaganda, even if the facts on the ground suggest otherwise. Israelis resent people who are elsewhere in the world who feel they are able to practice armchair diplomacy or analyze every other issue facing the country without ever having been here or actually living here. You are a perfect example of why. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 16:39:06 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 16:23:34 2010. Do you think the AP has a political bias?It's not what I think; it's what they demonstrate. Israelis resent people who are elsewhere in the world who feel they are able to practice armchair diplomacy or analyze every other issue facing the country without ever having been here or actually living here Do they? Then why do they keep backing down to European demands in the so-called "peace process" . . . ? And you have some gall describing all Israelis as though there were a united front on this part but exploit the evident disunity (fomented by the non-armchair diplomacy of those that do not "live there") when it suits you. |
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Posted by subfan on Mon Aug 30 21:27:03 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 14:17:16 2010. No, but this foolishness re: gender-segregated public transport is not generally an initiative of the Rabbis; rather, it is an initiative of self-appointed "community leaders" (called "Askanim" in Hebrew), who present issues of religious law ("Halacha") to the Rabbis in a way designed to elicit an answer that the "leaders" want. These individuals give Orthodox Judaism a bad name. If these individuals want to accept an unnecessary religious stringency on themselves, that's fine; the issue is when they try to impose it on others.BTW, to those posters who expressed concern about visiting Israel - it's much, much safer than you'd think from the news. As I have told people who have asked me if I'm afraid to live in Israel, "I live in Israel, not on CNN"! subfan |
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Posted by subfan on Mon Aug 30 21:33:17 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 16:39:06 2010. Israelis in general resent "outsiders" who try to tell the country what to do - unless those outsiders are backing the viewpoint that the specific Israeli in question supports. I do have to say, though, that there is generally something of a condecending attitude toward "armchair Zionists", particularly Americans, who are viewed as being simpleminded when it comes to the realities of the Middle East.And yes, I do live in Israel (been here since 2001 - I came at the hight of the Intefada), though I frequently travel to the US on business. subfan |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 21:47:43 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by subfan on Mon Aug 30 21:33:17 2010. unless those outsiders are backing the viewpoint that the specific Israeli in question supportsThat has to stop. It's one of the forces contributing to the destruction of the Jewish state. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 22:56:54 2010, in response to ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Aug 29 13:38:08 2010. The Jewish Taliban in action. Bunch of repressed, depressed, jealous, joyless, malcontent, misogynist moochers on Israeli and New York society. May they gey kockn afn yam, with an immodestly-dressed woman's ass sitting on their yarmulkas. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:02:38 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 22:56:54 2010. The Jewish Taliban in actionOh yes; they're looking to start WWIII and set up the Jewish Caliphate. Get over yerselves . . . |
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Posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 23:12:57 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:02:38 2010. These people carp about immodesty, but what about their dress is immodest? It is pure fetishism and vanity -- a bedazzling display to the rest of the non-believing world to show them how devout they are to their sky friend that chose them and not you to live such a repressive life instead of keeping their damned superstitions and repressions to themselves and allowing the rest of the world to live as it sees fit. It advertises their cause better than any baseball jersey advertises the team allegiance of the one wearing it. Come to think of it, a chick in a bikini at the beach or in a blouse and pants on the light rail is more modest and does a better job to blend in and not cause a stir than seeing these pathetic, sad, anachronistic caricatures walking around scolding others for enjoying life itself, instead of following their way and submitting to and obeying a bunch of false prophets who profit off their flock's imposed misery. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 23:20:19 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 23:12:57 2010. . . . but what about their dress is MODEST??? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:33:33 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 23:12:57 2010. That's more of a fair critique than a Taliban comparison. However, calling anything "anachronistic" in relation to philosophical matters is specious. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Aug 31 02:26:32 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 16:39:06 2010. Again, I know things by virtue of having lived here for most of the past year and having frequent interactions with Israelis before that time that I'm fairly confident you don't have. Israelis don't agree on much as a society, but they generally all resent outsiders trying to determine the future of the country. Netanyahu summed it up well when he said this to a US diplomat: “You live in Chevy Chase. Don't play with our future.” Israelis all over the political spectrum would agree with that statement. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Aug 31 17:10:47 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 15:07:09 2010. A good chunk of Jordanians are in fact former Palestinians |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Aug 31 17:11:09 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Aug 31 17:10:47 2010. You got that completely backwards. |
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Posted by NIMBYkiller on Tue Aug 31 17:12:03 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by subfan on Mon Aug 30 21:27:03 2010. Agreed, I visited Israel 4 years ago and almost never even thought about the possibility of a bombing. I rode the buses and trains around like it was nothing, which is exactly what it is. I love Israel and I really hope to go back again soon |
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Posted by subfan on Tue Aug 31 17:42:58 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 21:47:43 2010. OK, so move here - then nobody can question your right to influence Israel's future. That's what I did.subfan |
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Posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 21:01:57 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:33:33 2010. Nope. Taliban is pretty accurate. In the Jewish burgh of Mea Shearim in Jerusalem, they stone cars that drive through their neighborhoods during the Sabbath, and throw feces-filled diapers at police who dare rein them in when they protest against cosmopolitan society's wanting to live as it sees fit much to their chagrin. Do you see what they are doing in Kiryas Joel? This evening on Nitwitness News they showed that the town fathers put up signs welcoming visitors to their town, however to please observe gender segregation folkways and to dress modestly. Fucking miserable, parasitic, anti-American sons of bitches, all of them. Imagine if you or I put a sign up in our town that says our sensibilities would be violated if we see blacks walking on the sidewalk, so out of deference to our insular way of life, they should please walk in the gutter? How long do you think such a set of "sensibilities" will go unchallenged or how long do you think it will be before we got a boot up our self-proclaimed holy asses? That's it. When my girlfriend comes here later in the year, I am dressing her in fishnet stockings and a leather miniskirt, and I'll dress in leather pants and a spiked dog collar with a rooster mohawk and spank her ass on the steps to the main shul while she lustily moans and sings the Shema. 'Want to see why the world hates Jews? Look no farther than Kiryas Joel. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 21:04:01 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 21:01:57 2010. Er SilverFox are you Livid??? |
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Posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 23:08:12 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 21:04:01 2010. Full dry power, all four throttle levers to the firewall. This is a personal hot-button issue with me. If we ever met, I'd lend some insight, but there are hints all over this site as to why. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Aug 31 23:09:53 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 23:08:12 2010. Understood..... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 31 23:15:31 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Mon Aug 30 23:12:57 2010. LOL, you hate because you're jealous that they are happy and successful while your life is f*cking miserable. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 23:45:00 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 31 23:15:31 2010. No, I hate because it is people like you and the uberfrummers who are so sanctimonious about your oh-so-precious faith in your sky friend that you can't bear to be disturbed by those whose heads are out of the clouds and out of their asses, so you try to dictate to them, as well as those within your flock, how to live in your presence. Maybe you impose these draconian codes to outsiders lest you become tempted to live the way they do, partly because the way they live is a bit more enjoyable than walking around like a sight gag and denying yourself any pleasure from outside the synagogue and its coterie of repressed-depressed You and your ilk, are just too stupid to recognize how miserable you make your lives and how miserable you make everybody else's, both within and without your tribe. I recognized that and spat the bit, but hopefully not too late to salvage some this-world happiness from the jaws of Jewish misery. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 31 23:59:59 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 23:45:00 2010. No, I don't believe you. I still think that you hate because you're jealous that they are happy and successful while your life is f*cking miserable. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Wed Sep 1 00:28:20 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 31 23:59:59 2010. If you think that what I wrote constitutes a miserable life for me, you're mistaken. If you looked closely, you'd see I wrote that my life is good by many measures, but it just isn't good enough for me. Not "terrible," but just not where I wanted to be. Of course, that complex point escapes your narrow grasp. There's not a parsha in the Torah that addresses the concept of relativism. It's all absolute, and very damned repetitive. |
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Posted by subfan on Wed Sep 1 01:48:23 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Wed Sep 1 00:28:20 2010. Please, no need to throw away the baby with the bathwater. There are many approaches that can be taken; the "standard" one taught in Yeshiva is only one (and far from the best, in my opinion). As one wise man said, don't reject Judaism because of the Jews.subfan |
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Posted by subfan on Wed Sep 1 01:58:58 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 21:01:57 2010. You're taking the obsessions of a (admitidly vocal) minority and attributing their views to the majority of sane Orthodox Jews. The vast majority of observant ("Dati") Jews in Israel are dead set against the idiocy of separate seating on buses or or separate light rail cars (to at least bring this back on-topic); it's only because of the vocal protestations of the ultra-Hareidi populace that this condition exists at all. I say ultra-Hareidi deliberately; as a resident of an area with a substantial Hareidi population, I can say that the majority in my area, and a significant percentage (I don't have enough data to say a majority) of Hareidim throughout Israel, do not agree with this. For reference (and on-topic), see the writings of Rabbi M. Feinstein on riding the NYC subway when it's crush-loaded (he says it's absolutely permitted, and that anyone with modesty issues in such circumstances should seek medical assistance for his mental health).subfan |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Wed Sep 1 03:08:37 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Tue Aug 31 21:01:57 2010. In the Jewish burgh of Mea Shearim in Jerusalem, they stone cars that drive through their neighborhoods during the Sabbath, and throw feces-filled diapers at police who dare rein them in when they protest against cosmopolitan society's wanting to live as it sees fit much to their chagrin.And it has gotten to the point that more often than not, the bus routes that operate through that neighborhood are detoured around it instead. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 06:57:05 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by SilverFox on Wed Sep 1 00:28:20 2010. No. People who are happy don't come to subchat once a month and write 10 paragraphs of complaints about specific problems in their pathetic lives. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 07:03:31 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by subfan on Wed Sep 1 01:58:58 2010. You're taking the obsessions of a (admitidly vocal) minority and attributing their views to the majority of sane Orthodox Jews. That's because, as you should have known like 5 years ago, Adam is clueless, a self-hating Jew, miserable, and leads a pathetic life, as he has admitted himself time and time again. |
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Posted by SilverFox on Wed Sep 1 07:24:41 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 06:57:05 2010. No, people who are happy come to SubChat once a month or less because SubChat is like Uncle Elmer's outhouse. Lots of stuff going on, but ain't nothin' you really want to be a part of. Happy people have a variety in their lives. They go to the beach on Saturday. They eat what they want because it tastes good. They dress to fit the weather and not in gazillion-dollar sable hats that are quite immodest. Only people with nothing better to do obsess over a message board about trains and parse opinions about the number of decks a certain type of railcar may or may not have. People who know better don't piggyback their posts onto others who they agree with, and come up with the points themselves. Stick to photographs, which you are competent at. Even a blind squirrel like you can find an acorn every once in awhile. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Sep 1 07:26:04 2010, in response to Re: ARTICLE: Jerusalem Light Rail Could Have Gender-Segregated Cars, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 31 23:15:31 2010. "LOL, you hate because you're jealous that they are happy and successful while your life is f*cking miserable. "Holy shit, ain't this the pot calling the kettle black!!!! Sounds more like you when describing all rail/transit workers here compared to yourself, and also all real photographers here in comparison to yourself!!! Great post, Brian!! That comments totally applies to you, plus on top of that, you are a gutless, jealous loser!! |
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