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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Aug 30 15:31:58 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:00:10 2010.

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Have you ever tried it? Be honest!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Aug 30 15:35:11 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 08:07:19 2010.

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I did a Google image search of the word, "PUTZ" and your picture is the #1 result. You have some very serious issues, sir, with the way you deal with people. I'd be amazed if you could maintain a serious relationship in the real world.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Aug 30 20:11:26 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 30 14:23:10 2010.

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Thank you, David. I'm a "framer."

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Aug 30 20:24:21 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 00:59:41 2010.

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Neither of those are interurbans.

Yeah, it's a stadtbahn. :-)

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by WillD on Mon Aug 30 20:25:07 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 30 05:36:27 2010.

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How is it that the NICTD 'South Shore' line is "The One Remaining Interurban", despite being a commuter railroad which solely serves suburbs of Chicago (and cities which have always been suburbs of Chicago), yet you use that same metric to disqualify the DART system?

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by WillD on Mon Aug 30 20:32:45 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 01:42:46 2010.

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The 'more famous' interurbans may have operated that far, but they make up a tiny minority of systems. The vast majority of interurban properties covered much less ground and their equipment was much closer to what today is an LRT than what the South Shore has ever operated.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 21:06:09 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Aug 30 20:24:21 2010.

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Nein.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Aug 30 21:10:24 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 21:06:09 2010.

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Nein.

I'll take the bait. Why not?

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 22:50:11 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Aug 30 15:31:58 2010.

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I have never tried it. 10 years ago I might have but then I might have not made it to now.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 22:53:24 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 09:03:02 2010.

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MANAGER OF THE MALROOM? Of course, that explains the degree from Cornell in Stamp Licking.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:04:24 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Aug 30 21:10:24 2010.

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No sharing of tracks with FRA rail, and it's no bait.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Aug 30 23:30:18 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:04:24 2010.

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No sharing of tracks with FRA rail, and it's no bait.

Interesting, given that track sharing with mainline applications is not an essential feature of a Stadtbahn. Our friends in Frankfurt, Dusseldorf, Stuttgart, Hannover, Duisberg, Essen, and Dortmund may have some concerns about your sentiment. Even in the case of Köln, the system was a stadtbahn before its connection to Bonn.

FWIW, it's impossible to build a real tram-train in the United States (and Canada) because the only vehicle that can comply with FRA regs is a full-blown train, and running a Silverliner V in the middle of the street does not constitute a tram. Hell, the GTW 2/6s aren't really trams either...

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 23:39:52 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Mon Aug 30 23:30:18 2010.

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Only goes to show the non-standard descriptor that „Stadtbahn“ is (literally "city railway"). Even "interurban" encompasses more description and characteristics.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Dave on Tue Aug 31 11:57:03 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by WillD on Mon Aug 30 20:25:07 2010.

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Great question, Will!

The predecessor to the CSS&SB was the Chicago, Lake Shore and South Bend Railway. It ran from Michigan City to South Bend, two distinct municipalities. After going into receivership and being purchased by the CSS&SB in 1925, a 1926 change in power system change allowed for operations to Randolph Street Station in Chicago.

So back in the day, the CSS&SB ran between two municipalities, one of which was not considered a suburb of Chicago. And certainly, Michigan City and South Bend did not consider themselves to be suburbs of each other.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Aug 31 12:30:09 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 08:07:19 2010.

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As I expected - Train Dude has no legitimate response to my correction of his misunderstanding of the situation. What a hypocrite.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Evan on Tue Aug 31 13:28:47 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Aug 30 02:18:30 2010.

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There's a Texas Roadhouse up here in Kingston NY.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 31 13:36:17 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Evan on Tue Aug 31 13:28:47 2010.

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There are seven Texas Roadhouses in New York (the only area one is in East Meadow on Hempstead Turnpike in Nassau County), three in New Jersey and two in Connecticut (in West Haven not too far from the Branford Trolley Museum); check their website for addresses. The trip is worth it, in my opinion.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by 5119 on Tue Aug 31 18:16:27 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 29 22:39:46 2010.

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Joe, you are an established traction historian with tons of expertise, so negative comments about your works are spurious, to say the least.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 31 18:46:53 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by 5119 on Tue Aug 31 18:16:27 2010.

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Thank you. And they only come from one particular, in my opinion, mentally-retarded person anyhow. This type of person just needs to be ignored 100%.Z

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by kp5308 on Tue Aug 31 18:50:22 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Nice 'uns Joe.....with California Northern to boot!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 31 19:16:44 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by kp5308 on Tue Aug 31 18:50:22 2010.

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Thank you! I appreciate your comment. If you can answer this, I'd appreciate it: where does the California Northern operate, and why would their engine possibly be in Dallas? I watched them fuel it from a typical home oil type truck.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Evan on Wed Sep 1 10:04:34 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Tue Aug 31 19:16:44 2010.

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Both California Northern and DGNO are subsidiaries of RailAmerica. They mix and match equipment across the subsidiaries. The RailAmerica web site has maps of all the operating territories.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Sep 1 10:06:08 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Evan on Wed Sep 1 10:04:34 2010.

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Thank you very much. This information is greatly appreciated.

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