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R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010 I use the (A)/(C) from Broadway-Nassau only occasionally. It's been a couple of months since someone on this board announced that either R44 or R46 cars were running on the (C), but so far all I've seen is R32's. Were the newer cars already pulled from line, and if so, why?Bob |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:51:21 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. A limited number of R-44s have been temporarilly assigned to the C line. The majority of trains remains comprised of R-32 type cars. The R-44s use on the C line will be ending shortly. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:51:21 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. A limited number of R-44s have been temporarilly assigned to the C line. The majority of trains remains comprised of R-32 type cars. The R-44s use on the C line will be ending shortly. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Aug 30 10:45:53 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. I rode an R44 C last monday so its pretty unlikely they have all been withdrawn. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by andy on Mon Aug 30 11:39:44 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. I was on an R44 C train yesterday (Sun Aug 29). It was a NB train that was using the F between Jay and W 4. The electronic side sign reflected that reroute, but had a typo - said "VIA DELANLEY" instead of "VIA DELANCEY". Otherwise it was correct. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 12:23:18 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. I was lucky enough to ride 2 R44 consists on the C yesterday. One was 5454 as the lead car from Franklin Av to Broadway Junction. The other was 5389(?) as the last car from Shepherd Av to Broadway-Lafayette. It was weird riding something other than a SMEE on the C, but definitely a nice ride. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 12:25:52 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 12:23:18 2010. All the R44s are in A-B-B-A sets where the A cars have even numbers and the B cars have odd numbers, so 5389 was not the last car of the train... |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Aug 30 13:13:17 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 12:23:18 2010. I was on an R-44 on Saturday. Saw 4 sets. Took 3/4 that day.One in the morning on the A then to the C and the other one coming home. It was great seeing them again hehe. |
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Posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 15:34:23 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Mon Aug 30 12:25:52 2010. This is why I added the question mark. It was around 9pm last night, and I wasn't sure of the correct number. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 15:34:45 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Aug 30 13:13:17 2010. A double dose on both lines! Awesome! |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Aug 30 15:37:16 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:51:21 2010. We've heard that before. |
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Posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 15:51:11 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 15:34:23 2010. Probably 5398 |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Aug 30 20:17:40 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. There was an R44 set on the (C) today, I also got an R44 on the (A) coming home this evening and even got an seat, double whammy! |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Aug 30 20:21:13 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Aug 30 13:13:17 2010. Its nice to see them out on the road still, there A/C is great and they are fast! They will be missed once they are all gone, they are really pleasent to ride, I wish the (B) & (Q) lines had some 44 sets lol. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 20:24:39 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by TheCiskoKid on Mon Aug 30 15:37:16 2010. Actually you can take his word on it... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 30 20:27:32 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:51:21 2010. There was an R44 on the A line this morning. Saw it at 88th St headed to Brooklyn around 5:45. |
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Posted by bklyntekgeek on Mon Aug 30 20:53:09 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Bklyn2NJ on Mon Aug 30 15:34:45 2010. Yup.I also took an R-44 coming home today. Usual time I use to take the A, 2:19pm out of B'way Nassau to Queens. Glad I was able to see me and my wife's favorite sets this past saturday too. Felt silly after getting off the A at Jay St. only to find out the A / C were running on the F in Manhattan lol. Luckily, the 2nd R-44 that followed was the C and it was a consist with car number 5460. I told my wife "hey things happen for a reason afterall lol. It's the same set from your birthday". Still have that pic of the car number on my phone too. On the way coming home from the city we were lucky with another favorite set, it was consist 5380. The train we took coming home on our wedding day. She wanted an R-44 not a limo lol. Luck was on our side back in June. Gonna miss them but at least these memories will last a life time. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Aug 30 21:51:30 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Mon Aug 30 10:45:53 2010. I rode one home this evening. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Tue Aug 31 03:22:59 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Aug 30 20:27:32 2010. South Motor 5404. |
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Posted by 15 BEECHHURST on Wed Sep 1 07:02:34 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 20:24:39 2010. Yes, I also have heard from someone who would know that R44 usage on the C was 'a loan'. Not that it is helpful now, but I caught one northbound at 34-8 at 1pm last Tuesday, the 24th. No car numbers, sorry, but I did notice that the aperture for the roll sign on the south motor was too small (top to bottom) to properly display the 'C'. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 07:12:53 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 20:24:39 2010. No you can't. Stop toeing the company line. Train Dude recently said that there hadn't been any R-32s on the A in several months. But he was wrong. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 1 07:56:28 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 07:12:53 2010. No you can't. Stop toeing the company line. Train Dude recently said that there hadn't been any R-32s on the A in several months. But he was wrong.Since i wasnt aware of that nor do i care what you think about the matter.. Dont hurt yourself lifting bags today.. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:17:03 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 1 07:56:28 2010. Are you calling that little hottie that he's living with a bag? |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:19:12 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 1 07:56:28 2010. Far be it from me to parse the great Weinberger's comments but I believe what was meant was that there are no R-32s assigned to the A line. Transportation can always push one into service for one trip in an emergency. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 1 08:21:59 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:17:03 2010. Um no....Just commenting on someones "Mailroom status" which the threads with the info in them have been "delated".. |
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Posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:27:16 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 1 08:21:59 2010. Well, regardless, that fancy school of his should have taught him some manners and respect. His parents certainly didn't. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 08:34:47 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. saw 2 R44 C trains side by side at jay street yesterday. Sorry i didn't keep track of the numbers. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Sep 1 08:42:54 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:27:16 2010. Well, regardless, that fancy school of his should have taught him some manners and respect. His parents certainly didn't.Then the boy has to never to play the "oh people are picking on me" role here thats even more pathetic. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 1 11:56:40 2010, in response to R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by GIS Man on Mon Aug 30 08:32:38 2010. I saw an R44 C N/B at 34/8th this morning, too, about 08:25 hrs. Why are there 44s on the C? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Sep 1 12:43:56 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by MainR3664 on Wed Sep 1 11:56:40 2010. Because they have colder/better A/C than some R-32s. |
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Posted by Randyo on Wed Sep 1 14:17:38 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:19:12 2010. Circa 1960, BMT Multis were assigned to the Myrtle/Chambers Line exclusively but one train of Multis made an AM trip on the Bway Bkln Lcl even though they were not officially assigned there. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 1 19:30:14 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by TheCiskoKid on Wed Sep 1 08:19:12 2010. I refure to respond to his "I gotcha" mentality especially when he's responding to one unconfirmed 'sighting' by some rendom rail buff. But your scenerio is very possible. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 1 19:34:00 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Randyo on Wed Sep 1 14:17:38 2010. Even today, with diversions, re-routes and even car shortages, I'd not be suprised if an R-68 made an appearance at 207th St now and again. It doesn't mean they are assigned to the line. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 1 19:54:55 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 1 19:30:14 2010. Make that "refuse" |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 1 20:19:04 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Mon Aug 30 20:21:13 2010. I wish they'd swap out the R46's on the G with R160's. I rode the F on Monday and was depressed to see nothing but R160's. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 20:29:13 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 1 20:19:04 2010. To me the ever since Jamaica became R160 land the subway has lost a big part of it's charm to me. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 1 20:36:02 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 20:29:13 2010. Same here. In fact, I think the R160 has reduced the "charm" of the entire subway system for me, much as the R142 did to the IRT. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Wed Sep 1 20:43:04 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 20:24:39 2010. "Actually you can take his word on it..."That doesn't mean management can't change its mind for some reason or another. Right now, that information is good as gold, but next week, who knows? |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 21:02:00 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 1 20:36:02 2010. agreed. it wouldn't be so bad if it was only a 300 or 400 car order but when you just wipe out all the variety it looks bland and disgusting.If SAS needs new cars it might restart the cycle of small car orders though.... |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Wed Sep 1 23:27:45 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Sep 1 20:19:04 2010. I Fucking Hate it, I wish those R160's Can go to the (A) or (C) even the (B), The (F) got hit hard with that Crap. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 23:52:37 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by R32_3671 on Wed Sep 1 23:27:45 2010. I agree the F is a boring hellhole. I say reef the R160s and put in an order for a mixed bunch of R40 Slant, R10, and R38 lookalikes! :P |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 2 08:27:05 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 23:52:37 2010. Why? Just comb the seas :) |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Sep 2 11:12:32 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by arnine on Thu Sep 2 08:27:05 2010. of course! There are still old cars running on the C (sea) line! |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Sep 2 11:23:15 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Sep 2 11:12:32 2010. Yes :) |
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Posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 2 15:13:06 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Dj Hammers on Wed Sep 1 21:02:00 2010. The traditional systems, NY, Boston, Philly and Chicago always had some bit of variety in a large part due to those systems having had their lines built by several different companies with their own needs, infrastructure constraints and car design concepts and, only after years of private operation, were taken over by regional transit agencies. The newer systems like WMATA, BART LAMTA etc, who built unified systems from the start, developed a standard design for all their rolling stock so they never had any variety to begin with. Now that the older systems have been taken over by their respective regional transit agencies, the trend is to standardize the appearance of their rolling stock as much as possible given the physical infrastructure constraints of the various lines that make up their respective systems. When you think about it though, the pre war lines of the NYCTS in many cases also lacked variety. Although the IRT had several different types of cars that were incompatible with each other, they were for the most part virtually identical in physical appearance the only small exceptions being the 1939 World's Fair cars and loosely, the deck roof Hi-Vs. Prior the the introduction of the D types, the BRT/BMT steels (often referred to as "standards") were an attempt at a standardized car design and with the exception of minor changes in the roof design and side destination signs, were for the most part identical in appearance. The IND R-1 through 9 also provided little if any variety in appearance and was also an attempt by an early transit agency to operate a fully standardized car fleet. Even if smaller car orders were to be placed, it would probably make no difference since the MTA will probably retain the same design regardless of the number of car purchased per order as was the case with the R-1/9s. Whether most railfans like it or not, the trend in these times is towards standardization of equipment so I wouldn't look for nay significant changes in car design on the NYCTS for the foreseeable future. |
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Re: R44/46 on the (C)? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Sep 2 16:28:20 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Train Dude on Wed Sep 1 19:54:55 2010. I think someone else posted that there were a couple of R32 sets on the A out of 207 that were put in at 59th... |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Sep 2 16:30:36 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Randyo on Thu Sep 2 15:13:06 2010. I expect going forward any new cars will need to be built for 100% compatibility with the existing cars, as long as the technology is viable. |
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Posted by Dj Hammers on Thu Sep 2 20:40:12 2010, in response to Re: R44/46 on the (C)?, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Thu Sep 2 16:28:20 2010. yeah that was me i saw a set of R32s at 59th street running on the A in late june. must have been a put in. |
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