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Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010

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The steaks in this chain, Texas Roadhouse, are out-of-this world, and, in my opinion, make Outback's steaks taste horrible and chalky. Fortunately, for those of us in the NYC area, a Texas Roadhouse opened last October on Hempstead Turnpike in East Meadow. For steak lovers, this place is great The prices about the same but the quality far superior to Outback's. A great place to eat while out busfanning or railfanning. Unsolicited opinion.



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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Aug 29 21:46:31 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Interesting photos. But the above ground shots are overexposed, washed out, too bright, not sharp, etc. The underground shots are way too grainy. Overall not so good.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 29 21:48:46 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Great stuff, I love the forth pic with the crossover right in front of the tunnel, the one with the RTS is cool too. This looks like an cute little rail system I like it.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:51:31 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by r33/r36 mainline on Sun Aug 29 21:48:46 2010.

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Thank you very much. It's a nice system and expanding very rapidly. Even the downtown McKinney Avenue Trolley has received funding to extend that route.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 29 21:52:34 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Excellent again, and not pix of an unsuspecting female in the bunch. Great work...

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:55:42 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Sun Aug 29 21:52:34 2010.

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Many thanks for your kind comments! Makes standing out in the Dallas heat worthwhile.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by arnine on Sun Aug 29 22:09:33 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Nice photos :) Sad to see the downed and ruined crossing lights :(

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 22:10:23 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by arnine on Sun Aug 29 22:09:33 2010.

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Thank you again.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 29 22:34:40 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Great stuff, Joe!! 2 thumbs up!! And please do ignore the haters and the pretentious wannabes who long to be as good of a photographer!! This was good stuff!! :-)

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:36:42 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Joe: Very nice pictures. Did I understand you correctly describe this service as an "interurban?"

Larry, RedbirdR33



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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 29 22:37:45 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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good shooting
excellent

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 22:37:53 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 29 22:34:40 2010.

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Thank you, Paul. I do ignore the haters and wannabes, believe me! They're not worth wasting my time with.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 29 22:38:39 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 29 22:37:45 2010.

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Do take some time, Salaam, to inform the resident pretentious wannabe of that!!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 22:39:09 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:36:42 2010.

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Thank you for your compliment. Yes, it's an interurban in every meaning of the word - with 65mph top speed allowed on certain sections.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Sun Aug 29 22:39:46 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 22:37:53 2010.

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You're quite welcome!!

And yes, maybe if he spent the time working on his own inabilities, and turn them into abilities, maybe he would be half as good as the people who post their stuff here!!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 22:39:54 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sun Aug 29 22:37:45 2010.

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Thank you.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:47:23 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 22:39:09 2010.

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Joe: It would seem that the "interubans" are making something of a comeback, first we had the River Line in New Jersey and now this one in Dallas.

Larry, RedbirdR33

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 23:01:53 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:47:23 2010.

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That's correct, and even Hudson-Bergen, Denver, Los Angeles, San Diego, St. Louis and others fall into this category now. I believe, but am not positive, that the two longest lines are in St. Louis and the River Line.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 00:59:16 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:36:42 2010.

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It's not correct. DART is no interurban.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 00:59:41 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:47:23 2010.

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Neither of those are interurbans.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Aug 30 01:08:08 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Nice...very nice, both parts....thanks for dealing with the Dallas heat & humidity to share that with us.

Jimmymc25

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Easy on Mon Aug 30 01:31:45 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 00:59:41 2010.

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They fit the wikipedia definition made by the guy that wrote the book on the topic. Especially the blue line in LA from Long Beach to LA. Maybe others.

Real-world lines fit on a continuum between wholly urban street railways and full-fledged railroads. George W. Hilton and John F. Due, in The Electric Interurban Railways in America,[2] define an interurban as a system which shares most or all of four characteristics:
Electric power
Passenger service as primary emphasis
Heavier, faster equipment than urban streetcars
Operated on street trackage in cities but on roadside tracks or private rights-of-way in rural areas
The definition of "interurban" is necessarily blurry. Some streetcar systems evolved partly into interurban systems with extensions or acquisitions, while other interurban lines became, effectively, light rail systems with no street running whatsoever, or became primarily freight-hauling railroads with a progressive loss of passenger service.
Another distinction is made between "interurban" and "suburban". A suburban system is oriented toward a particular city center in a single urban area, serving primarily commuters who live in the suburbs of a city. An interurban is more like a regular railroad local train service, moving people from one city center to another with no single center. However, unlike a local train, the interurban serves a smaller region and has more frequent service, and is oriented to passenger rather than freight service, although some small-load freight service was common, especially in the days before trucks (lorries).


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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 01:42:46 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Easy on Mon Aug 30 01:31:45 2010.

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The more famous interurbans had ranges of close to 100 miles though. These light rail networks are nowhere near as long.

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Aug 30 01:51:07 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 01:42:46 2010.

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But it's a start and for now the best we got.

Jimmymc25

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Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 02:05:02 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas DART & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Aug 30 01:51:07 2010.

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It's still not interurban, however. They don't have the route length nor the commuter rail seating that was typical of interurbans. The cars often looked like miniature commuter trains.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by North-Easten T/O on Mon Aug 30 02:18:30 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Nice shots, Joe. BTW there a Texes Raod House in OldBridge NJ, right off route 9 South. Take GSP South to exit 123. About 2miles off the exit. I pass it every day going to and from work. Have not eating in it yet, but want to.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 30 05:36:27 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 23:01:53 2010.

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I'm not sure I would classify DART as an interurban. The towns it serve are considered suburbs of Dallas, although I suppose technically speaking, running from one town to another is considered an interurban. Now were it to run from Dallas to Ft. Worth (like the TRE, which is heavy rail), that to me would be a true interurban.

If you think of the genesis of the word, it dates back to a time before towns 30 - 40 miles from a city were considered suburbs. Illinois Traction (later, Illinois Terminal RR) was a true interurban, running electric cars between St. Louis and Peoria, Illinois via Springfield (172 miles).

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 06:17:12 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:36:42 2010.

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Joe Saitta is not correct. And look again at his photos as they are not nice. They are interesting, but not nice. They are actually pretty bad with respect to quality.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 06:51:17 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 06:17:12 2010.

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What is very not nice is your obvious frustration at the fact that your rant about Joe's supposed lack of technical photo skills is not gaining any traction, here. You need to drop your childish vendetta while you have even one scintilla of credibility left. If you do, I'm certain that some of the rest of us will stop pointing out the lack of imagination that we find in the photos that you post.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Aug 30 07:45:43 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by jimmymc25 on Mon Aug 30 01:08:08 2010.

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You're welcome. I appreciate your kind words.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 07:54:57 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Isn't Texas Roadhouse the restaurant that has a 72-ounce steak on its menu, and if you can finish it in one sitting, it's free?

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 07:56:51 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Larry,RedbirdR33 on Sun Aug 29 22:36:42 2010.

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Can it be mentioned in the same breath along with the South Shore line? As a South Bend native, I'm partial to it.:)

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:00:10 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 07:54:57 2010.

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I Believe J & R Steakhouses on Long Island do it with a 76 ounce steak. Eat it and it's free - angioplasty not included...

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Aug 30 08:00:29 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 07:54:57 2010.

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I've never seen that - and if you do finish it, they probably also give you a double dose of Lipitor!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 08:07:19 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 06:51:17 2010.

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Hahahaha, you're an idiot. I was wondering who the idiot would be who would end up saying this.

The only reason I'm pointing out the TRUTH about Joe Saitta's SHITTY quality photos (that are interesting none the less) is because he took the initiative to start lying about my photos. If HE stops posting lies about my photos, then I will IN TURN be more than happy to stop posting the TRUTH about his photos. It is NOT the other way around, as you so incorrectly described it.


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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 08:13:50 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 08:07:19 2010.

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The only reason I'm pointing out the TRUTH about Joe Saitta's SHITTY quality photos (that are interesting none the less) is because he took the initiative to start lying about my photos. If HE stops posting lies about my photos, then I will IN TURN be more than happy to stop posting the TRUTH about his photos. It is NOT the other way around, as you so incorrectly described it.

So are you going to act like a 10 year old and keep posting the same thing over and over again when you kept asking 9 local to check his email??

Yep very mature and smart..

How did that turn out for you here?

Im laughing at your "Ivy League Education"...

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:48:52 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 08:07:19 2010.

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Idiot, office boy?

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:54:25 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Aug 30 08:07:19 2010.

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Your photos are hack jobs, boring and lacking imagination. No amount of stomping your feet or name-calling will change that fact. I suspect they are a view into the reality of the rest of your life.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Railman718 on Mon Aug 30 09:03:02 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:48:52 2010.

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No Steve a manager of a mail room with a Ivy league education!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Dave on Mon Aug 30 09:23:17 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 07:56:51 2010.

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Nah, the CSS&SB was (and as NICTD, is) a true interurban!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Aug 30 09:29:10 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Nice photos. Thanks for presenting them here.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Joe Saitta on Mon Aug 30 09:32:00 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Catfish 44 on Mon Aug 30 09:29:10 2010.

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Thank you. I appreciate your kind comment.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Aug 30 10:30:18 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Nice to get an update on Dallas. Pretty amazing that Dallas not only has plans for an extensive Light Rail network, but they are actually BUILDING it with the majority of the Green and Orange Lines set to open by the end of the year. I checked it out on Google Maps and its really there, almost entirely complete!

This is pretty astonishing to see something like this in Texas and even more astonishing that it is not happening in Austin.

Cool to see the new center section added to the LRV's. That will help with ADA issues which could be a real pain with the mini-highs and the platform bridge. Does anyone know if DART is buying new LRV's for their expanded service? Also does anyone know if they are changing the signaling from NYC Subway style waysides to a cab signaling system?

You can see my pics of DART taken when I visited in 2007.

http://acm.jhu.edu/~sthurmovik/Railpics/07-04-16_DART_EXCURSIONS/-Thumbnails.html

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 13:30:45 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Dave on Mon Aug 30 09:23:17 2010.

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Yes indeed!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 13:31:43 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:00:10 2010.

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That's almost FIVE POUNDS of meat!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 30 14:19:31 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:48:52 2010.

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Steve, don't waste your fingers on replying back to a hardhead SOB with a college degree from Cornell University.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 30 14:19:59 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:54:25 2010.

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LOL, truth!!!!!

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Aug 30 14:23:10 2010, in response to Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Joe Saitta on Sun Aug 29 21:43:34 2010.

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Pictures 4, 5 and 8 are outstanding - - the others aren't as great as those three but they are not bad looking either. I like the way you were creative in using different locations.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 15:21:48 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Train Dude on Mon Aug 30 08:00:10 2010.

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Oof. And I thought it was bad at the Firehouse in Rahway NJ, with their 48-oz steak.

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Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2

Posted by Olog-hai on Mon Aug 30 15:22:52 2010, in response to Re: Photos - Dallas Interurban & Miscellaneous - Part 2, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Aug 30 13:31:43 2010.

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4¾ lbs of meat to be exact. Consider that a 400-lb lion can eat ten times that amount in one sitting.

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