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Posted by Hoghead on Wed Jul 28 00:24:57 2010 Picture This, and Risk ArrestOne afternoon, Duane P. Kerzic was arrested by the Amtrak police while taking pictures of a train pulling into Pennsylvania Station. At first, the police asked him to delete the images from his camera, but he refused. He ended up handcuffed to the wall of a holding cell while an officer wrote a ticket for trespassing. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 28 00:42:01 2010, in response to Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Hoghead on Wed Jul 28 00:24:57 2010. This seems to be the Times contribution to the flood of articles on the photography rights issue that have hit newspapers throughout the country in the past week:Washington Post USA Today The Tuscon Citizen Popular Mechanics NBC Washington ABC News The War On Photography is getting national attention! |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 28 07:41:28 2010, in response to Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Hoghead on Wed Jul 28 00:24:57 2010. I had a similar problem at Penn Station, but I settled for a total of 8k from Amtrak and the city. When Duane Kerzic first posted about his incident (which was cross posted by an alert SubChatter) I contacted him and hooked him up with the lawyer who had represented me, Gerald Cohen. It's really cool to see the whole affair get some mention on the NY Times.Now a little bird told me how much he settled for, but I also know it was dependent on some non-disclosure terms (mentioned in the article) so I won't speculate further on a public forum. What I can say if that if you have a problem with rail photography and nobody else can help and if your trouble took place within the City of New York, maybe you can hire, Gerald Cohen. He's become sort of a subject matter expert in this and is involved in at least one more recent case. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 28 08:02:29 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 28 07:41:28 2010. I love it when a plan comes together. |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 28 08:18:52 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 28 00:42:01 2010. The Global war On Photography (GWOP) is getting waaay out of hand. I expect the growing number of rules or laws against photography (such as PATH's across-the-board ban on picture-taking in its system, or Maryland's prohibition on photographing the police) will ultimately end up in the U.S. Supreme Court as a First Amendment case. |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 28 09:26:23 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 28 07:41:28 2010. Do you have to report that as taxable income to the IRS ? |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Jul 28 09:37:39 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 28 09:26:23 2010. Yes, sadly some verdicts do come with an exemption but IINM it is dependent on the court. Though many do not realize they have to declare it as income. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Wed Jul 28 10:22:46 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 28 09:26:23 2010. Not if they are actual damages which mine were. After the lawyer's 1/3 the settlements covered my own legal fees fighting the ticket, plus the cost of my ruined trip and loss of camera etc. Of course if I did come out ahead I am not going to go bragging about it on a public forum. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jul 28 12:10:43 2010, in response to Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Hoghead on Wed Jul 28 00:24:57 2010. And here's the Colbert Report piece on the incident, if anyone hasn't seen it yet. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Jul 28 12:54:11 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jul 28 12:10:43 2010. I normally hate the Colbert Report but this was funny :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 28 12:58:12 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by arnine on Wed Jul 28 12:54:11 2010. Why do you normally hate it? |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Jul 28 13:01:01 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 28 12:58:12 2010. I just do not usually find it funny, but that is me. But, I probably shouldn't have used the word 'hate' that is too strong a word. |
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Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 28 16:27:25 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jul 28 12:10:43 2010. That was effin' funny!!! :-D |
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Posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 28 18:07:13 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by arnine on Wed Jul 28 12:54:11 2010. I usually find Colbert to be a bore, although he thinks of himself as hilarious. He is a poor imitation of Jon Stewart. But this time he was funny possibly because Amtrak was so stupid. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Jul 28 18:21:37 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Joe V on Wed Jul 28 18:07:13 2010. I totally agree to me I never found his show funny until this and I agree it is b/c Amtrak was so stupid. |
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Posted by Dekatyou on Wed Jul 28 22:09:51 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Jul 28 16:27:25 2010. I think he use "flash" while taking pictures.I am Japanese and in Japan, "taking pictures with flash" should be avoided because flash lights may be risk for train operators. (Operator cannot see forward of train because of flash light.) I always try not to use flash.l (If need to use it, I take picture from backward.) |
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Posted by Joe Saitta on Wed Jul 28 23:04:41 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Dekatyou on Wed Jul 28 22:09:51 2010. You are correct - the flash can temporarily blind the Train Operator. Thank you for your consideration. |
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Posted by JayMan on Thu Jul 29 12:21:23 2010, in response to Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Hoghead on Wed Jul 28 00:24:57 2010. From NJ Transit Blog:Amtrak Photo Contest - Keep Your Bail Card Handy |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Jul 29 12:41:13 2010, in response to Re: Times Article on Amtrak Paying Photgrapher, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 28 12:58:12 2010. It's not a very funny show. |
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