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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 2 00:21:27 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Fred G on Thu Jul 1 20:55:12 2010.

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That's exactly what it is!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Jul 2 00:27:02 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Thu Jul 1 21:56:34 2010.

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They probably just want to throw their weight around because they aren't "real" cops.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jul 2 00:30:52 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 1 21:08:04 2010.

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...and our security contractor, The Wackenhut Corporation...

Whack indeed.

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Re: Miami Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 00:50:11 2010, in response to Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 1 13:20:57 2010.

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WADR, couldja be a bit nicer . . . ? We have more than one Metrolink too: the LA commuter rail and the St. Louis light rail, for example . . .





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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 00:51:47 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 2 00:03:09 2010.

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Most people assume one Metrolink if that's all that's in the title. They don't jump to the St. Louis light rail automatically . . .



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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Easy on Fri Jul 2 00:58:13 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 00:51:47 2010.

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I think that the St Louis one is correctly MetroLink with a capital "L". But point taken. I do tend to assume WMATA, but I still look to be sure if it's not clear. I actually thought that it might be LACMTA even though they have phased out metrorail and metrobus in favor of "Metro".

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Fri Jul 2 01:55:40 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Easy on Fri Jul 2 00:03:09 2010.

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My first thought was WMATA's Metrorail, rather than Miami's (which is why I call WMATA's Metrorail and Metrobus systems WMATArail and WMATAbus respectively.) I'm relieved it's not the former; I have a lot of photos I need to grab of Metrorail.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Fri Jul 2 03:02:55 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 2 00:20:39 2010.

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A mass photographers assault on this system is what has to be done, many photographers taking photos with some news media in attendance, heh, that should make the national news showing the world what a bunch of assholes these idiots really are. Karl M

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Jul 2 07:49:11 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jul 2 00:20:39 2010.

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We've got too many of them, plain and simple.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 2 12:25:29 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Dutchrailnut on Thu Jul 1 20:20:37 2010.

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Commercial.

I don't think that word means what you think it means...

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 2 12:38:39 2010, in response to Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 1 13:20:57 2010.

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To put things into perspective,
Here is a video of China's HSR taken by some random person in full view of RR employees and security:



Do "misunderstandings" between private security and photographers occur in any countries other than the US? Its goons like this that are killing our reputation of "land of the free"...

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 2 12:52:11 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 2 12:25:29 2010.

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Exactly.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Randyo on Fri Jul 2 13:44:05 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 2 12:38:39 2010.

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I was surprised and pleasantly so when some presenters of shows at the ERA indicated how cooperative many of the railroad employees were in so called "repressive" countries like the People's Republic of China when it came to photography.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 14:06:42 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Randyo on Fri Jul 2 13:44:05 2010.

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Try speaking out against the government over there. Photography's not such an issue when there are several pairs of eyes watching your every move.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 2 14:34:41 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 14:06:42 2010.

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Speak out against government in China:
-Arrested. Disappeared. Nothing changes.
Speak out against government in US:
-Detained for 47 hours. Ignored. Nothing changes.
Cover RNC protesters.
-Arrest and brought up on felony charges.

Yes it is much worse over there, but in either location it is equally as effective.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 14:48:08 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Henry R32 #3730 on Fri Jul 2 14:34:41 2010.

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Speak out against government in China:
-Arrested. Disappeared. Nothing changes


Nothing changes? You're dead. That's a big change.

Don't cite the Daily Snooze. They believe in perpetual motion machines.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Edwards! on Fri Jul 2 14:58:47 2010, in response to Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 1 13:20:57 2010.

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unbelievable!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 15:24:37 2010, in response to Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 1 13:20:57 2010.

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this really makes me mad seeing this the pigs are out of control there

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 15:57:24 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 15:24:37 2010.

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Hey, you're like Obama!
He called the police stupid!
Lowest common denominator in the house boyyyyy!
You sure you don't get a little happy when a cop is shot?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by TheHat on Fri Jul 2 16:15:23 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 15:57:24 2010.

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I agree it's a bit much. They maybe following a directive that is contradiction of the law. I saw that a lot in the NYPD and currently as an MTA employee, but that doesn't make me stupid, just following orders. Still that should have been handled better by the security guards. When I was an NYPD Aux. I didn't care if I was recorded, I had nothing to hide and if I followed orders and directives. Personally I would obtain guidance from a supervisor if I was in doubt. However the person who responded was from the Metro-Dade DHS bureau and should have the knowledge of the laws and rules pertaining to this situation. Based of seeing the entire video, they clearly stated that it was not for commercial purposes. I hope they are successful in stopping this form of harassment, which it clearly was especially from the security guards. They at least, were unprofessional and at worst incompetent.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:18:22 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 15:57:24 2010.

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we are talking about photographers RIGHTS here not
''police/sheriffs'' shootings

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:19:54 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 15:57:24 2010.

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the subject is ''Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned''
not shooting at law enforcement

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:20:52 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 15:57:24 2010.

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the subject is ''Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned''
not shooting at law enforcement

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:27:24 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:18:22 2010.

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But you called the police PIGS which was the issue we were talking about before!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:27:59 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:19:54 2010.

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Now they are law enforcement, before pigs.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:28:16 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:20:52 2010.

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You mean shooting at pigs?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:30:56 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:28:16 2010.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:31:14 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:27:24 2010.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:41:55 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:30:56 2010.

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At least you realize that you did call the police pigs, thats all I wanted you to realize.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:43:01 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:31:14 2010.

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I guess zzzz means you concede to me that you did call the police pigs right?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:48:54 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:41:55 2010.

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the metrorail security / police / sheriffs did just that behave like pigs ( on this thead )
harassing this photographer !!!!!
no excuse for this at all

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:49:43 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:43:01 2010.

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on this thread and against this innocent photographer hell yes

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 17:11:34 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:48:54 2010.

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Thank you!
So you could see a co-relation between you calling the police pigs and maybe being happy they are shot?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 17:11:48 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 16:49:43 2010.

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Thanks!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 17:21:51 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 17:11:34 2010.

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nowhere did i advocate shooting at anyone ( with a gun )

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 17:26:05 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 17:21:51 2010.

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I didn't say you did, but its probable that someone who calls the police pigs, lies about calling the police pigs and then he gets caught calling the police the next day may take a slight pleasure in seeing the police getting shot.
Thats all!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 17:30:34 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 17:26:05 2010.

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how do you think the police / sheriffs / security behave toward this poor innocent photogrsapher on the 1st of this thread ?
dont you think they did this man wrong in the least?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 17:35:31 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 1 22:55:35 2010.

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how about atlanta MARTA ?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by monorail on Fri Jul 2 19:04:35 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 16:28:16 2010.

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or 'the man'?

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jul 2 19:49:48 2010, in response to Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Thu Jul 1 13:20:57 2010.

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Update: The NPPA is now involved

Click here

NPPA's general counsel has sent a letter of protest to the Miami-Dade Police Department's media relations bureau objecting to the behavior of officers, who were backing up private security guards, for their "unconstitutional infringement of the First Amendment rights" of NPPA member Charles Ledford as he tried to take photographs in and around the Douglas Road Metro stop.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 21:10:45 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jul 2 19:49:48 2010.

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"Photography Is Not A Crime," ...!!!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 21:43:02 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 21:10:45 2010.

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Depends on the photographer.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 21:50:28 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 21:43:02 2010.

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well

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 21:53:54 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 21:50:28 2010.

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I like my steaks like that too!

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 22:01:12 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 21:53:54 2010.

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 22:05:57 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Fri Jul 2 22:01:12 2010.

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You said "well" to Olag, so I said I like my steaks well too!

Another one that went right past you............sadly

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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 2 22:11:09 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 21:43:02 2010.

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Why would they put "depends on the photographer"? Was he getting pissed off or something?


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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 2 22:12:27 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Jul 2 21:53:54 2010.

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Heavens NO!

LIONS *like* RARE steaks.

Bring the beast into the kitchen, knock off the horns, light a match for a few minutes and it's DONE! Stick a Fork in it!


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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 22:17:17 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 2 22:12:27 2010.

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LIONS *like* RARE steaks

And I thought they preferred raw meat.



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Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 2 22:22:32 2010, in response to Re: Metrorail Outrage - Photographers Banned, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Jul 2 22:17:17 2010.

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I do not need to be faster than the LION, I only need to be faster than you. ☺


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