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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jan 18 20:11:12 2010, in response to R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Vacuum Tube on Sun Jan 17 10:53:54 2010. If the R-44's are scrapped, I hope they take the clear panels in the vestibules and put them in the R-46's. I know, another railfan's dream... |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jan 18 20:34:15 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Andrew Saucci on Mon Jan 18 20:11:12 2010. I was thinking about those as well. I too would hope those are saved and installed on the R46s at Pitkin. |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jan 18 20:39:37 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. Wow, a very informative post. Thank you so much for the details! |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Mon Jan 18 21:31:19 2010, in response to R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Vacuum Tube on Sun Jan 17 10:53:54 2010. Are there enough R32's and R42's left to even allow the R44's to be removed from service? You would need 340 60-footers to replace 272 75-foot cars. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Jan 18 22:14:17 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by RailBus63 on Mon Jan 18 21:31:19 2010. Don't believe the false lies from the clueless OP. VT was only stirring the pot and it backfired like one of Wile E. Coyote's contraptions. |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by Marc A. Rivlin on Mon Jan 18 22:37:36 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. Since they've known about the structural problems with the 44s for decades, isn't it safe to assume that this was considered when they decided the R160 order sizes and the decided which cars would be scrapped when. That leads me to conclude that, unless some new problem has been discovered with the 44s, they will outlive the 32s and 42s. |
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Re: R44's soon to be *sleeping* with the fish . . . ? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue Jan 19 00:59:26 2010, in response to R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Vacuum Tube on Sun Jan 17 10:53:54 2010. Swomming or sleeping? It'd be a disaster for an unpowered land vehicle to be swimming around in the ocean; it might damage some of the vessels out there."Luca Brasi swims with the fishes"? Not the same ring to it . . . |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Tue Jan 19 05:58:19 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:55:08 2010. How heavy are the "Hippos"* (R-68)?*I don't use this pejoratively as I like hippopotami. |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Tue Jan 19 09:36:06 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. Excellent, thank you for the information. |
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Posted by JFK DEPOT on Tue Jan 19 10:05:44 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 17 13:47:07 2010. "Things change. Here's the current G1 outlook, as I see it:-Program to scrap the R-32s and remaining R-42s stops immediately. -R-44 goes bye-bye. -(M)/(V) combo occurs. New (V) will be mostly R-160A, with a few R-32s thrown in. This frees up R-46s to go to the (A). " if that (M)/(V) combo happens will the V use 160's from JAMAICA or ENY ? |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by JFK DEPOT on Tue Jan 19 10:08:04 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. that explains why I see more R32's on the A smh...I think the TA got ahead of itself when it retired those R38's the 38's could have stuck around alil bit longer seeing as the 44's are just about done |
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Posted by R30A on Tue Jan 19 10:12:56 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by JFK DEPOT on Tue Jan 19 10:05:44 2010. ENY. Jamaica R160s would not be usable on a combination line. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Tue Jan 19 11:00:36 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by R30A on Tue Jan 19 10:12:56 2010. Five-car sets, versus four-car sets, respectively. |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 19 11:11:05 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. Thank you so much. You have finally answeredmy questions about this.You have also confirmed that in addition to millions the TA spends on graffiti and scratchitti maintenance, it is now in the position of retiring an entire car fleet prematurely. It amazes me how much money is wasted because of vandalism. Yet there are those that want us to stop bitchin or get over it. Absolutely amazing. |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jan 19 11:42:08 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 17 13:47:07 2010. Cooool!!!!I already kew that the R32's would blend in and From what I heard the R32's and R42's will have to stay until another car order is made. |
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Posted by R32_3671 on Tue Jan 19 11:43:58 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by JFK DEPOT on Tue Jan 19 10:05:44 2010. ENY, The new (V) would use the R160's from the (M), The (M) would be cut, that's the purpose of this, And the (V) can't use 8 car R42's due to the C/R boards on 6th ave and queens bivd. |
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Posted by irt1958 on Tue Jan 19 12:11:03 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by JFK DEPOT on Tue Jan 19 10:08:04 2010. I caught one yesterday from JFK, at about 2:02PM, southbound, and as it picked up past 25mph it shimmied very noticeably. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jan 19 13:25:01 2010, in response to R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Vacuum Tube on Sun Jan 17 10:53:54 2010. Looks like the graffiti culture helped to hasten the demise of the R-44's with the use of the acid wash.Bill Newkirk |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 19 13:33:06 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jan 19 13:25:01 2010. absolutely and there are some that could care less. |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Tue Jan 19 13:46:31 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Newkirk Images on Tue Jan 19 13:25:01 2010. absolutely and there are some that could care less. |
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Posted by Vacuum Tube on Tue Jan 19 17:50:41 2010, in response to Re: R44's soon to be swimming with the fish, posted by Grand Concourse on Mon Jan 18 20:34:15 2010. Puts a barrier between you someonee's smelly ass. So the term Ass Barrier |
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Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame |
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Posted by Vacuum Tube on Tue Jan 19 18:01:54 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. Most Informative,Thanks |
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Posted by Vacuum Tube on Tue Jan 19 18:09:46 2010, in response to Re: Why The R-44's Rusted Out at the Frame, posted by Widecab5 on Mon Jan 18 11:28:26 2010. Question, If the T.A. knew about this problem as you stated, why were the R32's been scrapped instead of the R44's? |
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