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Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009

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Here's a great old photo of the Fresh Pond Rd station on the M line before the line was elevated.
Talk about ADVERTISING! Every inch of the station is plastered with ads!

http://www.queenspix.com/ridgewood/freshpondroad1914_.jpg

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by rr4567 on Thu Nov 19 13:56:44 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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Wow. Really old photo. It's interesting what places looked like then and now

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 13:58:37 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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Cool today instead of paid advertising, we have free advertising by graffiti vandals.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Nov 19 13:58:41 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by rr4567 on Thu Nov 19 13:56:44 2009.

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Right now that spot is covered with buses.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 14:20:35 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 13:58:37 2009.

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Where? It's not the 80's anymore.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Nov 19 15:14:51 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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Question...where is the third rail?

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Nov 19 15:29:00 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Nov 19 15:14:51 2009.

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Good question. They must have used the overhead trolley wires. Certainly they weren't still using steam dummies in 1914.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 15:35:31 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Nov 19 15:29:00 2009.

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I believe the BMT el cars that ran on this line had trolley poles.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Nov 19 15:44:25 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 15:35:31 2009.

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Wow...for the entire length of the line or just in that particular area? interesting info indeed...

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:18:26 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 14:20:35 2009.

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Are you kidding me? look around at any station that is an open cut or elevated, there is graffiti below the platforms on the roof of the stations and on virtually any surface the MTA does not constantly keep up with. Take a ride over to 4th Avenue on the F and look around. Even in the dark days of the 1970's and 1980's there was never all of the graffiti that is there today.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by randyo on Thu Nov 19 17:37:58 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by streetcarman1 on Thu Nov 19 15:44:25 2009.

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The BUs that ran on the els had trolley poles for street running. Not only did the Myrtle Av have surface running but before the el structures were complete, the Culver, Jamaica and I believe also the West End had trains of el cars running on the surface under trolley wire.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 19 17:58:28 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 13:58:37 2009.

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Ok, I agree with you and sure most do too. But, comeon how often are you going to bring this same thing up? I am sorry normally I do not object to what folks post here but comeon enough is enough. It is getting the cause no where. If you want it to change do something. Start a letter writing campaign, go to MTA meetings, etc. But, constantly bring it up here in the slim chance that an MTA person reads it and cares is not going to work, sorry. Honestly, even if one of them does read your comments, they will see most here aren't chiming in so they will not care. There are better ways for you to get your message to them. Again, if you don't like it don't ride the system, period.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Mellow One on Thu Nov 19 18:02:38 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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See my Myrtle Ave El Lutheran Cemetary ROW.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by LuchAAA on Thu Nov 19 18:15:48 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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That's an awesome photo.

Interesting advertising concept too.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Nov 19 19:54:12 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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Now if only there were photos of the old trolley / car barn, these old photos sure fun to look at, thanks for the photo...my old stomping ground. Karl M

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 19:57:08 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by rbseabeach on Thu Nov 19 17:18:26 2009.

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Please....THIS is the 80's, and every outside station looked like this until the early 90's when finally it stopped. This is a photo of Bay Parkway on the F being put into the graffiti free program in the early 90's:




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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by LuchAAA on Fri Nov 20 10:32:24 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 19:57:08 2009.

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80's was worse. Still, vandalism is a big problem. The homes in front of Grover Cleveland HS are hit regularly b/c kids want their tags to be seen be as many fellow students as possible.

Ridgewood still has problems with it for some reason.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by tunnelrat on Fri Nov 20 11:00:12 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by randyo on Thu Nov 19 17:37:58 2009.

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Don`t forget the seabeach with bmt steels fitted up with trolley poles before the 3rd rail was energized.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 20 11:15:50 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by randyo on Thu Nov 19 17:37:58 2009.

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Not only did the Myrtle Av have surface running but before the el structures were complete, the Culver, Jamaica and I believe also the West End had trains of el cars running on the surface under trolley wire.

The Jamaica had surface operating el cars briefly in 1903. The steam surface lines used trolley wire in part, when they converted to electricity. These included portions of the Brighton, West End, Sea Beach, Culver, Canarsie, Myrtle and Norton's Point. These operations were all PRW. The Jamaica operation was different in that it was street running and created adverse public reaction.

The Dual Contract expansion essentially put an end to such operations. The lines were placed in deep cuts, on embankments, on elevated pillars or converted to trolley car operation.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by ntrainride on Fri Nov 20 11:20:23 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Nov 20 11:15:50 2009.

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Must have been an exciting time for the rail fans.

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Question About The (M) Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Nov 20 14:42:05 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by ntrainride on Fri Nov 20 11:20:23 2009.

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What are the closest parallel streets to the (M) between Fresh Pond Road (at 67th Avenue) and Metropolitan Avenue and is it possible for someone to access the (M) tracks on either side?

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Re: Question About The (M) Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sat Nov 21 05:26:29 2009, in response to Question About The (M) Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by Union Turnpike on Fri Nov 20 14:42:05 2009.

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None.

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:00:32 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Thu Nov 19 19:54:12 2009.

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Here you go Karl....

http://www.queenspix.com/ridgewood/freshpondyard1914_3_.jpg

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sat Nov 21 10:01:39 2009, in response to Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 19 13:47:40 2009.

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Here's another great photo of the old original Fresh Pond Rd station, this one looking the other way. Notice the crossing gate closer guy waiting for a train to come to close the gate....

http://www.queenspix.com/ridgewood/freshpondyard1914_2_.jpg

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Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station

Posted by randyo on Sat Nov 21 16:18:49 2009, in response to Re: Fresh Pond Rd Station, posted by tunnelrat on Fri Nov 20 11:00:12 2009.

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True, but the Sea Beach was a separated ROW rather that one open to semi public access like the old Myrtle or the lines with actual street running.

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