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No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 11:32:05 2009 Trash is a big problem and expense for the MTA. I have seen people leave trash on trains, platforms etc. Trash attracts rats and creates a terrible atmosphere. I have seen people with hot cups of coffee sipping it on a train and the train jerks. Then the hot liquid spills on a passenger. I say eliminate food and beverages on subways, busses and stations. |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 11:36:24 2009, in response to No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 11:32:05 2009. Good luck trying to enforce that rule. People are stilling walking between cars..they just don't care.....since there is no one around to enforce that rule. |
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Posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 18 11:38:58 2009, in response to No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 11:32:05 2009. There is a rule about Eating and Drinking in the system, just evenrone does not care and the cops dont push it. |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 12:45:05 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 11:36:24 2009. Absolutely, that was going to be my next post. These doors should all be locked. They have been locked since the R-44 and full length cabs were introduced. They are locked on the R-68. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 12:51:19 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 12:45:05 2009. No. They should just abandon the rule. |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 13:09:32 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 18 11:38:58 2009. Where is that posted? I don't signage with this rule in the trains. In fact, I marveled at the fact that eating/drinking was "permitted"! |
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Posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 13:13:22 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 12:51:19 2009. Iawtp.What if there's a fire. People couldn't get out |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 13:19:34 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 13:13:22 2009. How do they get out of an R-44 46 or 68? |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 13:26:52 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 13:19:34 2009. They can't.The doors are locked. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:38:32 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 13:26:52 2009. Remove the rubber gaskets, But the newer units don't have this and the R-32's and 42's don't either. So it makes no sense to lock them. 75' cars (except the some R-44's)have the end doors locked but have rubber gaskets arobd the window in case of emergency. |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:39:34 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:38:32 2009. ^around |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Wed Nov 18 13:43:06 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 13:19:34 2009. The end doors on those cars can be unlocked by the crew from a central location in case of emergency. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:46:26 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 13:26:52 2009. False. Why do you post lies here? In an emergency, the doors will be unlocked remotely IINM. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:48:32 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 18 11:38:58 2009. No, there is no rule about eating in the system.I'm really surprised that you would post a lie about the rules when we've made it so clear in photography discussions how important it is for employees to know the rules of their own system. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:49:43 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 12:45:05 2009. No, they shouldn't be locked, because then people would be trapped. The doors are locked on the 75' cars because passing between 75' cars on curves is dangerous. Those cars have doors that can be unlocked remotely. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:51:07 2009, in response to No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 11:32:05 2009. Then we might as well stop having vendors in the subway since they sell food and drink. Logic is one thing but practicality is another. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:52:52 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:46:26 2009. I don't know if it's lies, Just mis-information. And your right about the doors being unlocked. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 13:53:46 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:49:43 2009. How long are the R143s and R160s? I thought those were 75ft as well!If that's the case, why aren't those locked? I'm not a fan of locking doors, btw...for that safety/convenience issue and such. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:55:01 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 13:53:46 2009. The new cars are the same length of the cars they replaced. |
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Posted by mshull on Wed Nov 18 13:57:00 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 13:53:46 2009. R143s and R160s are both 60' long; replacing other 60' cars. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Nov 18 13:58:39 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Nov 18 12:51:19 2009. The rule is there more for protection against litigation than to actually stop said activity. It's harder to sue when you injure yourself doing something expressly forbidden.Of course, that's no guarantee. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:02:19 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by mshull on Wed Nov 18 13:57:00 2009. WOW! I had no idea! So that means the E and them are running 10 car trains!So what was this about "what will the C train run"? Why can't it run 8 car R160s? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 14:25:17 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 13:48:32 2009. From the MTA.info:Section 1050.7 Disorderly conduct. No person on or in any facility or conveyance shall: a.litter, dump garbage, liquids or other matter, create a nuisance, hazard or unsanitary condition (including, but not limited to, spitting, or urinating, except in facilities provided). Trash and other waste materials contained in waste receptacles shall not be removed, except by persons duly authorized by the Authority; b.smoke or carry an open flame or lighted match, cigar, cigarette, pipe or torch; c.sleep or doze where such activity may be hazardous to such person or to others or may interfere with the operation of the Authority’s transit system or the comfort of its passengers; d.engage in any form of gambling, except as specifically authorized as, for example, at OTB parlors; e.create any sound through the use of any sound production device, except as specifically authorized by 1050.6(c) of these rules. Use of radios and other devices listened to solely by headphones or earphones and inaudible to others is permitted; f.throw, drop or cause to be propelled any stone, projectile or other article at, from, upon, in or on a facility or conveyance; g.drink any alcoholic beverage or possess any opened or unsealed container of alcoholic beverage, except on premises duly licensed for the sale of alcoholic beverages, such as bars and restaurants; h.enter or remain in any facility or conveyance while his or her ability to function safely in the environment of an Authority transit system is impaired by the consumption of alcohol or by the taking of any drugs; i.conduct himself or herself in any manner which may cause or tend to cause annoyance, alarm or inconvenience to a reasonable person or create a breach of the peace; j.(1) occupy more than one seat on a station, platform or conveyance when to do so would interfere or tend to interfere with the operation of the Authority’s transit system or the comfort of other passengers; (2) place his or her foot on a seat on a station, platform or conveyance; (3) lie on the floor, platform, stairway, landing or conveyance; or (4) block free movement on a station, stairway, platform or conveyance; or k.commit any act which causes or may tend to cause harm to oneself or to any other person including, but not limited to: 1. riding a bicycle or straddling a bicycle while it is in motion, or riding a scooter, or any other self-propelled vehicle or any motor-propelled vehicle; 2. wearing roller skates or in-line skates; or 3. riding or otherwise standing on a skateboard. 4. Paragraph one of this subdivision does not apply to the proper use of self-propelled or motor propelled wheelchairs or similar devices by a nonambulatory individual. Also: NYC Transit Rules of Conduct Following are highlights of some of the MTA NYC Transit subway and bus rules. Violation of any of these rules can result in arrest, fine, and/or ejection from the system. For a complete listing of NYC Transit subway and bus rules click here. It is a violation to- •Jump the turnstile or enter the system improperly, even if your MetroCard is not working properly •Refuse to present special fare card to police officer or transit employee •Straddle a bicycle, wear in-line or roller skates, stand on a skateboard or ride a scooter •Move between end doors of a subway car whether or not train is in motion, except in an emergency or when directed by police officer or conductor •Place one's foot on the seat of a subway, bus, or platform bench; occupy more than one seat or place bags on an empty seat when doing so would interfere with transit operations or the comfort of other customers •Fail to pay the proper fare •Panhandle or beg •Play a radio audible to others or use amplified devices on platforms •Block free movement •Lie down •Drink alcoholic beverages •Carry any liquid in an open container onto a train or bus •Engage in unauthorized commercial activity •Enter tracks, tunnels, or other non-public areas •Carry bulky items likely to cause inconvenience or hazard to yourself and others •Damage subway or bus property - that includes graffiti or scratchitti •Litter or create unsanitary conditions •Smoke anywhere on NYC Transit property, including outdoor stations |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:40:43 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 14:25:17 2009. What's your point? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:43:35 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:02:19 2009. Wow....At least one reason it can't run 8 car R-160s is probably because the R-160s purchased for the IND are in 5-car sets. Only the R-160s purchased for the BMT are in 4-car sets. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:44:02 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:40:43 2009. Nothing about eating! Hurray, munch away! |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 14:44:53 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by JBar387 on Wed Nov 18 13:52:52 2009. Yes on the 44's & the 46's there is a vapor key switch in the cabs that a crew mwmber can turn to unlock all storm doors. During the relays at CTL when the t/o has to go from one end to the other the c/r uses that switch for the t/o. I have seen that myself doing relays at CTL with a c/r friend of mine |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:46:49 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:43:35 2009. Thank you. I knew I was forgetting one very important fact. I'm so used to the "married pairs" practice and not the "5 car set" practice.I dunno why I had it in my mind that the MTA was only purchasing 75 ft cars from now one, especially since I actually rode these railcars. What a blonde moment! |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 14:48:18 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 13:53:46 2009. They are 60' IINM |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:48:58 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:46:49 2009. I dunno why I had it in my mind that the MTA was only purchasing 75 ft cars from now one, especially since I actually rode these railcars.Outside of the IRT, of course. I know better than that! What a blonde moment! Of course, not every blonde has such moments, and there are many blondes that are quite intelligent! Sigh...forgetting "diversity training" already, lol. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 14:53:15 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by North-Easten T/O on Wed Nov 18 11:38:58 2009. Exactly, but IMHO it would be wrong to enforce it as the vendors who have newspaper stands in the subway sell food & drinks. How can you tell folks it is wrong to eat or drink in the subway when it is sold there? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Nov 18 14:58:07 2009, in response to No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rbseabeach on Wed Nov 18 11:32:05 2009. OK............make you feeling made to the MTA board who makes these kinds of decisions.But, there will be a public outcry because they'll feel that violators who get summons' get them simply as a revenue enhancer to MTA. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:59:07 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Wed Nov 18 14:44:02 2009. exactly... don't know what his point was. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Nov 18 15:00:38 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by rr4567 on Wed Nov 18 13:26:52 2009. You, of all people, should better.In an emergency, the doors are unlocked by the crew. |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:01:00 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 14:48:18 2009. yeah that's what everyone already told him. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:01:47 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 14:53:15 2009. exactly? huh? not you're furthering a known lie? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:01:57 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 14:53:15 2009. exactly? huh? now you're furthering a known lie? |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 15:03:47 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:40:43 2009. You said there were NO RULES....I showing what does exist not just for you...but for other who read Subchat....that's point....lol |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Nov 18 15:04:09 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Nov 18 15:00:38 2009. With the turn of the Vapor Key on the Console. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:04:54 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Wed Nov 18 14:58:07 2009. IINM, the MTA doesn't get the revenue from fines. |
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Posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 15:05:18 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 14:59:07 2009. If you look at the title...it does mention about drinking....doesn't give the specifics...which the MTA rules does spell it out. |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by lrg5784 on Wed Nov 18 15:06:20 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:04:54 2009. That is correct. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:10:50 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:04:54 2009. True but people would still see it like they do. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:12:18 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:01:00 2009. Yeah so? It's no big deal. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:15:07 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 15:03:47 2009. and you're wrong, lol (as usual). as i clearly wrote, there is no rule about eating in the system. I don't post lies here... |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:16:13 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:01:47 2009. Yeah my mistake. I thought it was against the rules. I think but haven't looked in a while that the 46's still have the sticker saing no food or drink, which is why I thought NETO was right. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:16:59 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:01:47 2009. Yeah my mistake. I thought it was against the rules. I think but haven't looked in a while that the 46's still have the sticker saing no food or drink, which is why I thought NETO was right.Although, I should have realized that last week as I was eating breakfast on the E train in front of a cop. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:17:15 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by streetcarman1 on Wed Nov 18 15:05:18 2009. huh? I CLEARLY stated only that there is no rule about eating in the system. I specifically did not say that there were no rules about drinking. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:17:40 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:10:50 2009. tough sh*t? educate them... |
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Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 18 15:26:29 2009, in response to Re: No Eating or Drinking on Subway, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 18 15:12:18 2009. dunno why you said it then |
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