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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 9 08:17:42 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 07:52:54 2009. Alright, so why do you think my reply to his post does not agree with his post? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 08:30:53 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 08:02:25 2009. he doesn't understand that, and he refuses to listen to people who obviously know more than him. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 08:34:08 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 9 08:17:42 2009. he said parts boat. you talked about a spare boat. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 9 08:38:51 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 08:34:08 2009. I think that it is a spare boat as I have ridden once about 2 months ago. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Nov 9 09:01:09 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Michael549 on Sat Nov 7 17:29:22 2009. you got that right..many times I've waited at St. George for a trip,only to here annoucement the boat's been canceled. |
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Posted by Think twice on Mon Nov 9 09:07:43 2009, in response to Re: Staten Island Transit, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 9 07:09:28 2009. The Dinkins Administration DOT drew up a wish list in 1993 which included just such a tunnel but with IND connections:From "Developing a Long Range Transportation Plan" pages 86 and 87: "It would run from a connection with the IND system in lower Manhattan, under New York Bay to St. George and a connection with the Staten Island Rapid Transit line to Tottenville, which would become part of the subway system. The connection point in Manhattan could either be with the Eighth Avenue line's stub-end terminal in the World Trade Center, or with the Second Avenue line at the southeastern corner of the Financial District." |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 09:17:56 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Michael549 on Sat Nov 7 17:29:22 2009. The penalty of Staten Island continues.And yet people continue to move there like they were giving something away. |
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Posted by Q4 on Mon Nov 9 09:19:42 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Nov 8 16:31:30 2009. People behaving badly are people behaving badly, regardless of whether or not they are Yankee fans. I am also sure that all of the people who started trouble were Yankee fans.DOT should have made provisions like the MTA to have more service. They failed miserably. And if SIRT didn't have additional service, that part of the MTA failed also. In crowded conditions, unforturnately people get anxious, tempers get hot and this sort of thing tends to happen. I've seen it at Penn Station when there are massive train delays and you didn't have people coming from a parade. Doesn't excuse the behavior however. In crowded conditions, it only takes a couple of idiots and trouble starts rolling. Many people had an enjoyable experience at the parade, however, there are always some drunken idiots (I saw three guys walking to an LIRR station at 6:30AM drinking beer) or hoodlums who spoil it for some people. Usually its kids (any complaints I heard from people this year were about teenagers behaving badly). As for not knowing the history of a team, this is no different than 86 when Met Fever took over and everybody was a Met fan and most couldn't even tell you who Buddy Harrelson was or when the Mets came into existence. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 09:23:56 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Q4 on Mon Nov 9 09:19:42 2009. I am also sure that all of the people who started trouble were Yankee fans.Not necessarily. For example, at the annual Puerto Rican Day parade, from what I've seen first hand and heard about in the past, most of the trouble is started by non Puerto Ricans. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:29:45 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 9 08:38:51 2009. But he said it was a parts boat. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:34:38 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 08:02:25 2009. DOT really missed the |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:35:25 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 06:39:41 2009. You don't know either? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:41:26 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 9 06:55:17 2009. I remember Moses saying at one point he built the roads and bridges because he knew passenger cars were coming and would need the roads and bridges. Or something like that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:42:16 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:35:25 2009. hahahaah that's what you think??? ahahahahaahahahaa |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:44:34 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:41:26 2009. or something like that??? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:49:44 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:42:16 2009. That's what I know. You haven't said anything that sounds like you know. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:52:04 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:44:34 2009. Or words to that effect. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:52:56 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:49:44 2009. no, that's what you think and it's hilarious!!! ahhahahaa |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:55:52 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:52:56 2009. And I think you don't know and won't admit it.Just dance around the question and laugh it off with "ahhahahaa!" |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 9 09:55:57 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 02:46:37 2009. Moses wasn't a racist; he was an elitist.Incorrect, Moses was both racist and an elitist. He constructed playgrounds only in white, middle to upper class neighborhoods. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 9 09:56:33 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Sun Nov 8 22:24:14 2009. Google it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:58:24 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:55:52 2009. hahahaah that's what you think??? ahahahahaahahahaa |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:58:39 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Mon Nov 9 09:56:33 2009. Read the thread.I asked last night and someone already answered early this morning. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:59:41 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 09:58:39 2009. LOL, if someone already answered it, then why do you keep incorrectly thinking that I don't know the answer???! |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 10:00:32 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:58:24 2009. What's the matter?Can't answer the question except to link yourself? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 10:01:39 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 09:59:41 2009. Someone answered my question and it wasn't you! |
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Posted by Edwards! on Mon Nov 9 10:17:31 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 09:17:56 2009. Perhaps its a nice place to live...which is Why folks want to live there.You can't possibly be THAT dense...can you? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 11:25:06 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Osmosis Jones on Mon Nov 9 08:38:51 2009. They usually alternate which one is in service monthly. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 11:28:11 2009, in response to Re: Staten Island Transit, posted by Think twice on Mon Nov 9 09:07:43 2009. Staten Island's population density doesn't really support the expense. Maybe if they piggyback it on a new water tunnel or a freight tunnel...Any connection to the rest of the NYC subway system is unlikely to ever be built; I'd expect the HBLR extended across a new Bayonne Bridge before a study is even conducted for a tunnel. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 11:29:22 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 09:17:56 2009. Yeah, they are. No alternate side parking, homes with lawns and trees, better schools, less crime... |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 12:04:34 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Edwards! on Mon Nov 9 10:17:31 2009. When I look at a potential place to live, I look at the WHOLE picture. And that includes ease of traveling around the area and my daily commute. Sure, Staten Island might have nicer looking houses, lower crime, and better schools than the rest of the city, but that's only PART of the picture. You can get all those things, PLUS easier commutes and better roads in most of central New Jersey. Sure, the property taxes in NJ might be higher, but everything else in Staten Island is more expensive. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:14:00 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 10:00:32 2009. He can answer the question, it's just that you'll never learn. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:16:18 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 10:00:32 2009. Aw fuck it.The answer you're looking for is the Port of New York Authority. Since 1971 it's been called the Port Authority of New York and New Jersey. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:17:27 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 04:02:56 2009. Moses started imposing his influence after he saw the burning bush in the desert. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:22:57 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 12:04:34 2009. Property taxes are a big issue; there are other issues as well. For many, their jobs require them to live in New York city (or certain surrounding counties) Or they have a spouse with that restriction. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:23:09 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 07:08:36 2009. That culture would have been based around a smaller, less economically vital city. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:23:27 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:17:27 2009. IAWTP. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 12:30:51 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:22:57 2009. Granted.However, the thing that gets me is that people move there and THEN complain about all the problems that have been plagueing Staten Island since the 60's. I know I have said this many times on these boards, but it seems like Staten Island is the only place this is happening to. You never or rarely hear about people moving to Nassau, Suffolk, or Westchester counties and then complain about the lack of public transportation in those places. They moved there knowing that was the case. No surprises. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Mon Nov 9 12:30:55 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:23:09 2009. Right. |
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Posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 12:32:40 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 9 06:55:17 2009. Don't you think that similar roads would have been built regardless? |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:34:36 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 04:02:56 2009. In 1924, he was appointed Long Island Parks commissioner; in 1927, he was appointed NY Secretary of State. I'd have to grab my copy of The Power Broker, but the mid 1920s would seem to be it. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:39:16 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:23:09 2009. Possibly. There are too many other variables to draw a single conclusion. The depression, WWII, the decline of the private transit companies overall...For instance; if Moses never came to power in New York, there are a number of public works projects such as pools, parks, Niagara Power that may never have come to fruition. But WWII resulted in the development of the Interstate system, so highways would still be built. And even without Moses, highways were being developed and built in and around the city. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:46:59 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Wallyhorse on Mon Nov 9 06:55:17 2009. It could be argued that if the transit network developed as originally planned, there wouldn't be a need for as many highways as were built, since city residents wouldn't have seen a need to have a car. Too many what-ifs to play with. |
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Posted by Think twice on Mon Nov 9 13:22:39 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster., posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 02:43:38 2009. "They were intended to be linear parks and ways to get to the state parks, which he was also responsible for."Or as Judge Doom put it: "I see a place where people get on and off the freeway. On and off, off and on all day, all night. Soon, where Toon Town once stood will be a string of gas stations, inexpensive motels, restaurants that serve rapidly prepared food. Tire salons, automobile dealerships and wonderful, wonderful billboards reaching as far as the eye can see. My God, it'll be beautiful." :-) |
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Posted by Think twice on Mon Nov 9 13:30:52 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster., posted by Bill From Maspeth on Sun Nov 8 06:12:49 2009. "For example, aren't you aware of the reason for the shape of the underpasses on the LI parkways? So trucks could never use the road unless the road becasue they couldn't fit!"And to keep buses, and those who ride them, out of Jones Beach et al. Or so I've read. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 14:00:23 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:16:18 2009. Thank you.But as I've said else where someone already answered. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 14:07:17 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Nov 9 12:17:27 2009. That long ago, eh? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 14:16:39 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by 5301 Fishbowl on Mon Nov 9 12:32:40 2009. Yes.But they probably wouldn't have been built so "heartlessly" as Moses built them. The Cross Bronx for example might have been built in a less crowded area than though that Italian neighborhood. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 14:19:33 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 12:34:36 2009. Wow!I thought he didn't get to be the man he was until the mid-late 30's. |
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Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Nov 9 14:22:29 2009, in response to Re: Yankees Parade = Staten Island Transit Disaster, posted by daDouce Man on Mon Nov 9 14:16:39 2009. Considering the need to connect it to the GWB, probably not. |
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