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Kings Cross & St Pancras, London

Posted by David Fairthorne on Thu Nov 5 15:28:27 2009

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See London Reconnections for the layout of the new underground ticket hall at Kings Cross, showing time taken to change trains (before and after).

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Re: Kings Cross & St Pancras, London

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Nov 5 16:21:58 2009, in response to Kings Cross & St Pancras, London, posted by David Fairthorne on Thu Nov 5 15:28:27 2009.

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Nice.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 5 19:11:18 2009, in response to Kings Cross & St Pancras, London, posted by David Fairthorne on Thu Nov 5 15:28:27 2009.

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What's with the recent language revision that took away the "full stop" in abbreviations such as "Dr." and "Mr." . . . ? (That didn't happen in US English.)

Anyway, some interesting stuff on that blog, like this map.



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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Deaks on Fri Nov 6 12:26:28 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 5 19:11:18 2009.

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What's with the recent language revision that took away the "full stop" in abbreviations such as "Dr." and "Mr." . . . ?

How important....

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Fytton on Fri Nov 6 14:15:45 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Olog-hai on Thu Nov 5 19:11:18 2009.

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'What's with the recent language revision that took away the "full stop" in abbreviations such as "Dr." and "Mr." . . . ?'

It isn't recent. One of the professions I've practised during my life is copy-editor and proofreader. (And yes, I know there are often typos in my posts here. I'm too old to be born-digital!)

When I was taught the trade in 1967 or so, the ruling was (and it still is) that if the last letter of the abbreviation is the same as the last letter of the full word, then there is no full stop - hence Dr and Mr - whereas if the last letter is not that of the full word - as in Prof. or Rev. - the full stop is used.

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Re: Kings Cross & St Pancras, London

Posted by Fytton on Fri Nov 6 14:20:23 2009, in response to Kings Cross & St Pancras, London, posted by David Fairthorne on Thu Nov 5 15:28:27 2009.

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This is good news for us regular users of St Pancras (Thameslink and East Midlands platforms). Nice though the 'new' St Pancras station is, with all its shops and restaurants, it gets tedious to have to trek all the way through it to reach the Tube station. The new ticket hall will also neatly serve the new side entrance to Kings Cross mail line station, now under construction.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Nov 6 19:38:52 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Fytton on Fri Nov 6 14:15:45 2009.

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Of course "the Rev." is a style, not a title, if we're being pedantic...

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 6 21:02:02 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Fytton on Fri Nov 6 14:15:45 2009.

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When I was taught the trade in 1967 or so, the ruling was (and it still is) that if the last letter of the abbreviation is the same as the last letter of the full word, then there is no full stop

I don't recall this in practice when I was not living in the USA. This never used to be standard for English, too. (Note the "St." in the map I hotlinked, as well.)

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 6 21:03:19 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Deaks on Fri Nov 6 12:26:28 2009.

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If you're looking for "important" stuff on this board, you'll be waiting a very long time. This is strictly for the frivolous.

(Not that you give regard to that which is truly important anyhow, Alf.)

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 6 21:04:02 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Fri Nov 6 19:38:52 2009.

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You mean like "Rt. Hon." . . . ?

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Easy on Fri Nov 6 21:07:54 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Deaks on Fri Nov 6 12:26:28 2009.

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Maybe not important, but it's interesting.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Deaks on Sat Nov 7 16:18:15 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Easy on Fri Nov 6 21:07:54 2009.

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Not to me, it isn't.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Deaks on Sat Nov 7 16:18:40 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Olog-hai on Fri Nov 6 21:03:19 2009.

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Not that I give much regard to what you think either, Mr Nut Case.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 8 01:04:23 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Deaks on Sat Nov 7 16:18:40 2009.

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Hehe, of course you don't . . . but that's another story.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 8 01:04:57 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Deaks on Sat Nov 7 16:18:15 2009.

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You made that clear. No need to start barking at the neighbors . . .

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 8 01:08:27 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Deaks on Sat Nov 7 16:18:15 2009.

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I find the differences between English and American-English interesting. I never knew about this particular difference. Olog is correct. We always put a period after abbreviations that are capitalized. We don't have that rule about the abbreviation ending in the same letter as the full word.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 8 01:12:24 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Easy on Sun Nov 8 01:08:27 2009.

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We always put a period after abbreviations that are capitalized.

That was the case in the British Isles until perhaps the 90s (just a guess). I only noticed the difference online, frankly.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Easy on Sun Nov 8 01:19:25 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 8 01:12:24 2009.

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According to Fytton it's been that way for a while.

A change in the US over the last few decades is dropping the periods in acronyms. For example it's now FBI and not F.B.I. IINM the NYT still adds the periods.

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Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London

Posted by Deaks on Sun Nov 8 07:30:45 2009, in response to Re: Kings Cross & St. Pancras, London, posted by Olog-hai on Sun Nov 8 01:04:23 2009.

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Olog-hai is CRAZY!!!!

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