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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 07:58:37 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Ken S. on Tue Nov 3 07:52:08 2009. Ahh that's right. Duh, I should have known that, I need caffiene. Thanks for the info :-) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 08:06:06 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 07:58:37 2009. yep, you should have known that, seeing as you work for a railroad... |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 08:36:31 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 07:22:58 2009. Victory division(Red arrow), is still working and collecting paychecks.That union always reaps the benefits of a city contract and does nothing to help the cause of their city brothers.UTU 1594 should go out on strike to show solidarity.Pickets lines are forming at major SEPTA city terminals. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 08:37:43 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 08:06:06 2009. Hey we all have our moments, I am tired it slipped my mind for a few. At least I admitted that I should have know that :-) |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 08:42:16 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 08:36:31 2009. I agree but as Ken pointed out & I should have known that there are laws preventing them from striking. I bet some members of that union will show up at picket lines when they are off duty, but that is my guess only. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:04:20 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Ken S. on Tue Nov 3 07:52:08 2009. When did that law come into effect? Surely is was after the 108 day RR strike in 1981-ish. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:06:20 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 08:42:16 2009. No, the UTU is the Delaware County/Chester County suburban transit division of SEPTA, aka the "Red Arrow" (officially known as Victory). They have striked along with the TWU beforehand, most notably in the 2005 strike. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:09:13 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 08:37:43 2009. You have more than just your moments. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:09:46 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 07:44:58 2009. I'll be frank. I have no sympathy anymore and this was a dirty way to do it. THANK GOD I had my car to drive today, or I would've been stranded.You have the governor, congressman, Mayor, and SEPTA trying to work things out. Things wer progressing, and then you call a damn strike at 3 AM, crippling the city. People wake up, thinking the threat of a strike is averted, and then realize they have no way to get to work this morning. Great for the economy and workforce! I'm tired of the TWU crying for something like this all of the time. But I'll welcome the additional ridership on the rushbus system... |
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Posted by chuchubob on Tue Nov 3 09:10:15 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 07:44:58 2009. Regional Rail employees are under contract, which a sympathy strike would violate.Suburban Division employees are also under contract. City Division employees are not under contract. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:10:18 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:06:20 2009. That I didn't know. Thanks :-) |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:10:52 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:09:13 2009. No not really. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:12:39 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 08:36:31 2009. UTU 1594 should go out on strike to show solidarity.WTF???? You want people to not be able to get where they are going? That's ridiculous. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:13:03 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:09:46 2009. You have a point. I agree this was not the best way to do it. Hopefully, it can be resolved soon so this does not go on. And I keep my fingers crossed it will not be a repeat of the NYCT strike that lasts 3 days. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:14:03 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by chuchubob on Tue Nov 3 09:10:15 2009. No it makes sense to me now :-) Thanks for the info. I am hoping for a good resolvement of the strike. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:18:37 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:10:52 2009. Actually, yes really. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:18:58 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 08:36:31 2009. Maybe the UTU 1594 doesn't agree with the idea of making thousands of people's lives so much more difficult in these times by canceling transportation for people who are grasping with all of their might to the jobs they have, whether they like it or not. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:19:13 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:13:03 2009. A point? He's 100% correct. |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:20:45 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by chuchubob on Tue Nov 3 09:10:15 2009. The suburban division contract was over in April, I believe. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:21:50 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:18:58 2009. Exactly. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 3 09:23:28 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Nov 3 04:42:41 2009. Oh man, SEPTA has really lost some of its moxie. I remember back in 1997 (98?) when they went on strike AT NOON stranding everyone at work XD.Oh SEPTA, the only thing reliable about their service is the frequency of their strikes. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:29:48 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:18:37 2009. Whatever, your entitled to your opinion. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Nov 3 09:37:25 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:29:48 2009. Thanks. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 10:32:02 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 07:44:58 2009. Regional Rail employees are covered by the Railway Labor Act. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 10:32:54 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by chuchubob on Tue Nov 3 09:10:15 2009. Also, since Regional Rail is under FRA jurisdiction, the NLRB would come into play. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 10:34:13 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:04:20 2009. On that one, I'm surprised that the governor didn't try to break the union. |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 10:41:52 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Nov 3 10:32:02 2009. Yup :-) Thanks, I am brain dead today |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Tue Nov 3 10:45:26 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by The I MAN on Tue Nov 3 05:18:58 2009. No worry there! ☺ROAR |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 11:07:30 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 10:41:52 2009. SEPTA main page looks like this today.We are on strike |
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Posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 12:20:52 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Tue Nov 3 09:10:18 2009. No worries - always glad to enlighten my fellow transit enthusiasts when possible :). |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Nov 3 15:05:55 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 08:36:31 2009. [bomb throwing mode: ON]That union always reaps the benefits of a city contract and does nothing to help the cause of their city brothers. Unions are by definition selfish organizations, that one would not support the other for it's own benefit is deliciously ironic to this vocal critic of organized labor. SEPTA employees have decided to screw thousands of their Philly brothers with this reckless act. Fuck 'em. [bomb throwing mode: OFF] |
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Posted by Wallyhorse on Tue Nov 3 17:04:19 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Jersey Mike on Tue Nov 3 09:23:28 2009. And I remember that strike very well, as it messed up my viewing of the 1998 World Cup, since in order to do the horse racing newsletter I was doing at the time, I had to practically every day make a 90-minute walk to get my Daily Racing Form to do analysis for the tracks I needed to at that time. These days fortunately I get the DRF Online, so that's not an issue.At least the Breeders' Cup is this weekend. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Tue Nov 3 17:49:11 2009, in response to SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Tue Nov 3 05:37:59 2009. Call Rendell, ask him to bring in the National Guard and break up the damn strike. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 13:49:44 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by R42 4787 on Tue Nov 3 17:49:11 2009. Strike updates.Brown vs. Nutter |
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Posted by Union Turnpike on Wed Nov 4 16:09:44 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 13:49:44 2009. PATCO is running also but only goes to 15th/16th Streets and Locust. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 16:52:34 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Union Turnpike on Wed Nov 4 16:09:44 2009. TWU 234 is picketing 69th St. What a mess. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Wed Nov 4 17:31:56 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by The Flxible Neofan on Tue Nov 3 09:20:45 2009. I sit corrected. Red Arrow is working wihout a contract. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 4 17:34:16 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 13:49:44 2009. It amazes me how many folks out there do not even have a pension and some like those in the airlines are having theirs cut back or eliminated and these guys have one I am sorry normally I support the union but this time I can't |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 17:39:39 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 16:52:34 2009. If by some miracle ,talks resume, and a settlement can be reached in the next few days, drivers have 24 hours to report, so a full compliment of vehicles may not be on the street the first day |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 17:43:14 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by chuchubob on Wed Nov 4 17:31:56 2009. TWU 234 made it miserable for UTU 1594 today at 69th St. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 17:44:47 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by arnine on Wed Nov 4 17:34:16 2009. I agree with you. My bus driver friends don't see it that way.So we have an impasse. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 4 17:48:29 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 17:44:47 2009. Sadly, I do not see an end soon :( I think the state needs to figure something out soon otherwise the citizens are gonna have real problems.One of my classmates from elementary school & junior HS lives in Philly and has had to take taxi's to work and it costs her as she has to travel a distance each way she says she is paying $15 + tip |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 18:01:18 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 17:44:47 2009. Strikes really suck. I was going to Drexel in the 1960's and there was transit strike. My buddy's dad drove us down from NW Philly, dropped us off at school, and he continued on to work. We got a ride with him after he finished work. |
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Posted by arnine on Wed Nov 4 18:12:22 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike(was)Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Wed Nov 4 18:01:18 2009. They do. But, I do not mind them and will support them if it was for something more urgent but not over something like this. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 15:53:24 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by Nabinut on Sun Oct 25 11:32:28 2009. Today ,at 5;30 PM, there is going to be a press conference, let's hope it's good news. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 17:38:49 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 15:53:24 2009. I just learned an interesting fact. SEPTA keeps an EL train running on one hour headways during the strike to ferry management employees from either FTC or 69th St to center city. Management parks their cars at either end of the EL. I would assume they do the same for the Broad st. subway.So if the strike is called off, the system can get up and running, depending when the drivers/operators can get back in to report. |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 5 18:35:28 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 17:38:49 2009. Wait did they call off the strike? |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Nov 5 18:42:03 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 17:38:49 2009. NYCT did that for the 2005 strikes too, albeit for different reasons. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 18:42:19 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 17:38:49 2009. No ,not yet. The trains that are running are pilot trains only.There is no news to report as of this moment. |
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Posted by arnine on Thu Nov 5 19:03:19 2009, in response to Re: SEPTA Strike or not?, posted by TransitChuckG on Thu Nov 5 18:42:19 2009. That sucks :( How long will this go on? Maybe they should threaten to jail Brown like they did to Toussant(?sp) |
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