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Re: South 4th Street |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:42:13 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:36:35 2009. I walked down to the N/E of the mezzazine back in 1989.The last time I was at the station was 2004-2005 and there were MoW rooms built in the mezzazine near the booth inside controls. |
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Re: South 4th Street |
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Posted by The Queen on Sat Sep 12 16:42:34 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:04:33 2009. If you are referring to South 4th Street. It IS a station.The station extends well over the boundaries of the G line. |
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Re: South 4th Street |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:43:28 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:42:13 2009. Is there a blue print for the station? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:44:33 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:40:55 2009. My station dept. stuff says that the stairs were removed in 98. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:44:33 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:43:28 2009. There should be one in the booth. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:44:37 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by The Queen on Sat Sep 12 16:42:34 2009. The shell is above the north end of the IND Broadway G station (so-called upper level). |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:45:11 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:44:33 2009. What stairs? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:46:58 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:45:11 2009. Stairs from the G plstform. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:48:00 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:46:58 2009. So the stairs to the shell was still there at that late date? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:56:37 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:48:00 2009. There are no stairs to the shell. There were many stains on the Broadway platform that when to the mezz. which is now sealed. |
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Re: South 4th Street |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Sep 12 16:56:39 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:44:33 2009. Ok I know this is so dumb of me but where is this station? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:57:07 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:48:00 2009. At the N/E of the Mezzazine at Broadway Station on the G line there was a big stairway going up to a passageway that presumingly went to the shell. The only other stairway in the subway I know of which is that big is at the N/E of Grand Central on the 4/5/6 line from the Mezzazine there into Grand Central Terminal. That was back in 1989. I don't know about 2009. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:58:13 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by arnine on Sat Sep 12 16:56:39 2009. It's on the north end of the Broadway station on the G. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:00:26 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:56:37 2009. In regards to the stairs on the Broadway platform I noticed they were boarded and fenced over. |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Sep 12 17:00:38 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:58:13 2009. Thanks:) |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:03:28 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:58:13 2009. Actually the booth at Broadway is at the S/E of the station.The stairway to the shell at South 4th is at the N/E. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:11:03 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:00:26 2009. They were, but they are now gone. 8 stair ways were removed on 4/01/98 or atleast that is when the station diagram I have was revised. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:12:30 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:03:28 2009. I was going by railroad north and south, not actual. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:15:21 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:11:03 2009. Do you have a copy of the diagram that is in the booth? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:16:44 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:15:21 2009. Yes, and it is out dated. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Sep 12 17:16:48 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:25:43 2009. The IRT SMEE to Rockaway Park trip to the BMT City Hall lower level in 2004 was the highlight of the trip. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:17:11 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:12:30 2009. So was I. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 17:17:34 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:16:44 2009. From what year? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:19:03 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 17:16:44 2009. I'd still like to see it.Can you post it in here? |
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Re: Middle Track |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 17:38:37 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009. What is that middle track at Classon Avenue used for? |
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Re: Middle Track |
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Posted by xtimx on Sat Sep 12 17:49:49 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 17:38:37 2009. from nycsubway.org:Classon Avenue Station · Opened 7/1/1937 Classon Avenue. This station had a full mezzanine divided by the fare control. The southern portion of the mezzanine is grilled off and also closed off at platform level. This station has room for a third (center) track, built either as part of plans for the IND second system or for possible short turn trains. A close observation from the platform revealed evidence that the infrastructure for a third track exists. |
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Re: Middle Track |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 17:58:43 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by xtimx on Sat Sep 12 17:49:49 2009. So the infrastructure for a 3rd track exists.... |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:49:00 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:19:03 2009. It's dated 2/24/98. I don't know if it is the kind of thing I should post for all to see though. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:50:54 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 17:17:11 2009. Ok, then something got mixed up. |
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Re: Middle Track |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:54:07 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 17:58:43 2009. Yes, there is a track way but there are no tracks. Also the tunnel between Classon and Bedford-Nostrand is built for 2 tracks only. There is no room for a 3rd track. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 18:58:49 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:54:07 2009. How come there's only room for 2 tracks between Beford-Nostrand and Classon Avenue stations? I thought there was room for three..... |
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Posted by trains61 on Sat Sep 12 19:02:48 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:54:07 2009. Yes there is. The trackway extends all the way from Classon Ave. to Bedford and Nostrand. It was my home station for 26 years. The criminal element used to try to escape from the police by running down the middle trackway. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:04:33 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by trains61 on Sat Sep 12 19:02:48 2009. Last time I was down there, last night, there are only two track ways. |
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Posted by trains61 on Sat Sep 12 19:12:32 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:04:33 2009. Check again. There are three. When a southbound G-train passes a Northbound they are not next to each other in the tunnel, they are bisected by the trackway. Also note the width of Lafayette Ave between the two stations. Lafayette Gardens(My childhood projects) buildings 411 and 415 are placed well away from the street. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:15:09 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by trains61 on Sat Sep 12 19:12:32 2009. Maybe tonight if I feel motivated enought I'll go down and take a look. I could of sworn that there was a wall where a 3rd track would go between the two stations. |
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Re: Middle Track |
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Posted by trains61 on Sat Sep 12 19:25:12 2009, in response to Re: Middle Track, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:15:09 2009. As TMP says, "Be safe and please don`t trespass." If you ever missed a Northbound G train and looked down the tunnel you would notice, there is no convergence of the northbound tracks towards the trackway. The tracks actually start to veer outward to accommodate the island platform. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 19:26:59 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:49:00 2009. Can you e-mail it? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 19:29:00 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 18:50:54 2009. At least that was cleared up before sunset. |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:30:37 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 19:26:59 2009. I can, I jus tneed to format it into a JPeg. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 19:33:38 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:30:37 2009. What format do you have it in? |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:39:51 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 19:33:38 2009. Hell, I'll just post it. It does not contain sensitive material.
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:40:59 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by arnine on Sat Sep 12 17:00:38 2009. The South 4th Street shell has 4 island platforms and 6 trackways, much like Hoyt-Schermerhorn Street. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:55:01 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:39:51 2009. Cool. What year was this from? |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:56:03 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:55:01 2009. I can't read the date. It's too small, and the image is kind of blurry. |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Sep 12 19:58:18 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:40:59 2009. Ah cool, thanks :) |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:58:57 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by arnine on Sat Sep 12 19:58:18 2009. Anytime. ;) |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 20:12:38 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009. 98' |
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Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 20:15:18 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 19:56:03 2009. 98'. |
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Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 20:16:47 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 20:15:18 2009. Thanx. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 21:12:41 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 19:39:51 2009. That's the map that is in the booth!Thanks! |
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