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South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009

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Did anyone went to the South 4th Street station shell before?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 15:31:24 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009.

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Has anyone been there before? I'm sure someone has or it would not have been built.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Sep 12 15:36:48 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009.

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Yes

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 15:38:12 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009.

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From my collection.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:44:42 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009.

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Someone (not from here) once told me she led a group back there once. They went up a stairway at the N/E of B'way, found a light panel and saw the station shell.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:45:16 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 15:31:24 2009.

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I'm not talking about when it was built, I was talking about from the recent past.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:46:09 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:44:42 2009.

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Who's "She"?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:49:23 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:44:42 2009.

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I heard the station was in pristine condition.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:49:46 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:46:09 2009.

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I forget her name. But she was a supervisior. Likely retired by now.
Like I said, no one from here.
If she's here I'd like to question her about the station.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:53:24 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:49:23 2009.

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Someone on this thread posted a photo they had of the station.
The picture showed the station was clean.
But it wasn't tiled.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:54:16 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 15:38:12 2009.

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What is that small light at the end of the station (near the tag)?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:54:52 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:49:46 2009.

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She's old now?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:57:15 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:53:24 2009.

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I wonder who was the first person to discover the station....

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:57:17 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:54:16 2009.

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Looks like the red targeting light that a digital camera uses before it takes a picture

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:00:05 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009.

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Before what?

ROAR

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:00:58 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 15:57:17 2009.

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It's a flashlight.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:01:23 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:00:05 2009.

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In the recent past.....

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:01:55 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:54:52 2009.

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Define "OLD", you young whippersnapper!

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:02:09 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:54:52 2009.

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I'd guess when I knew her she was in her early 30's.
I haven't seen her in about 25 years so I wouldn't say she old.
Just more mature. Maybe I could get away with saying she's older.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:03:44 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:01:55 2009.

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Lol!

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:04:33 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:57:15 2009.

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The "station" was not discovered, because it was never lost.
We always *knew* that it was there.

And it is not a "station"; it is a "shell" which mean that at the point were it would have crossed the line that they were building they built a tunnel and platform segments, so that when the line was built, it would not cause disruption to the existing line.

The shell is only as long as the other line is wide.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:05:00 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:57:15 2009.

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To "discover" implies the station was forgotten or never known.
I don't think TA would have allowed either to have happened.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:07:54 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:01:23 2009.

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So then what you are asking is "Has anybody been there recently.?"

If you want to get a good job and make big money, you need to know how to use the language properly.

Practice this every time you write, take the time to do it right, and you will look like a much smarter person than you really are.

[See, look at me. I finished in the bottom 550 of my high school class. But I seem to be doing better now, wouldn't you say?]

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:08:55 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:04:33 2009.

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I have in my computer files diagrams of the planned station and ROWs leading to it.
I wonder how much was built?
Not much I think. But how much was actually built?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:09:17 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:04:33 2009.

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Ya, I knew that. The other shell is above the IND Utica Avenue station in the A & C.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:09:42 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:00:58 2009.

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OK I'll accept that!

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:10:10 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:07:54 2009.

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Whatever you say man....

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Sep 12 16:10:51 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:07:54 2009.

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Free room, board, and prayers! No wonder you monks and nuns live to a ripe old age! LOL!

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:12:21 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:45:16 2009.

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Ok, a few weeks ago then.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:18:43 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:09:42 2009.

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Well, it is my photo. The lighting in there is so bad anythign helps.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:22:13 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:18:43 2009.

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So, you never discovered the light switch, eh?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:22:32 2009, in response to South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 15:02:05 2009.

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I suppose the openings on the ceiling above both platforms at the north end of the Broadway station was built for the South 4th Street shell....

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:25:43 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Sep 12 16:22:13 2009.

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NOpe, didn't know there was one. The darkness just adds to the fun though.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:25:59 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Sep 12 16:10:51 2009.

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And being allowed to indulge in trains is a bonus!

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by The Queen on Sat Sep 12 16:28:01 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:18:43 2009.

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You should have not used a flashlight to aid the flash, It throws off the color. Flash by itself is enough.
Were you authorized to be up there?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Sep 12 16:30:35 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by The Queen on Sat Sep 12 16:28:01 2009.

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IIRC years ago the Transit museum even gave tours to the area

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:31:13 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:09:17 2009.

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I once got a glimse of that shell from the lower mezzazine at Utica Ave. Seemed everything was various shades of gray.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:31:36 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by BMTLines on Sat Sep 12 16:30:35 2009.

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When was that?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:33:44 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:31:13 2009.

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Unpainted Concrete.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:33:55 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:31:13 2009.

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Unpainted Concrete.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Sep 12 16:34:39 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:31:36 2009.

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before 9/11

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:34:51 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:25:43 2009.

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Umm. Since when being in the darkness is fun?

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:35:17 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:22:32 2009.

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No, Broadway at one time had a full length mezz. Most of it has been closed off so there was not need for seveal stair ways and they were removed. thats what the open spaces in the celing are.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:35:53 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:33:44 2009.

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Unpainted and untiled gray.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by BMTLines on Sat Sep 12 16:36:07 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:34:51 2009.

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I can name the ways but not on this site

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:36:35 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:35:17 2009.

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So when the north end of the mezzanine was walled-up??

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Sep 12 16:37:34 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by BMTLines on Sat Sep 12 16:36:07 2009.

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Just say you like to live dangerously.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:40:04 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:36:35 2009.

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It happened over several years in the 90's.

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:40:55 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:40:04 2009.

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The 90's? I would thought it was older than that....

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Re: South 4th Street

Posted by MattW@15st_prospect_park on Sat Sep 12 16:41:24 2009, in response to Re: South 4th Street, posted by bigrene22 on Sat Sep 12 16:40:55 2009.

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Well I think thas when it came to the way it is now.

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