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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 19:54:23 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 30 11:55:00 2009. There are just too many stories around the country of people being harassed for taking pictures by police and private security guards.Flickr Group - photography is not a crime The Harassed Photographer DC Photo Rights The organizer of this group testified in the congressional hearings about Union Station DC NPRO Blog - Photography is Not a Crime Vivid Light Photography as well as various threads/articles in Photo.net and dozens of other photography sites. Personally I am cautiously optimistic that the tide is starting to turn. Unless there are incidents that are not being reported it seems that the harassment of photographers on the New York Subway has diminished. |
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Posted by terrapin station on Tue Jun 30 20:27:58 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Zman179 on Tue Jun 30 17:49:48 2009. i don't understand what you mean. Why a conductor? Why 24 years? Why would others be held back? How does this affect him? Why would his unfairly being considered a troublemaker keep him as a conductor for 24 years while simultaneously holding others back from promotions? |
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Posted by terrapin station on Tue Jun 30 20:29:02 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Jeff Rosen on Tue Jun 30 18:19:15 2009. No, for what they did, obviously. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 20:36:18 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by terrapin station on Tue Jun 30 20:27:58 2009. hahahhahahaha |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 20:59:07 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Train Dude on Tue Jun 30 20:36:18 2009. Tell us more about the predatory practices of NYCT management that you seem to be so familiar with. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 21:10:27 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 16:13:55 2009. and it does require review/approval from the executive branch Thanks for the link. But all the executive branch does is "review proposed rules for necessity, clarity, consistency and efforts to reduce burdensome effects." It doesn't seem that the constitutionality or "just-plain-stupid -ality" of a proposed rule comes under review by them. In that case, I still think it would be up to the citizens to bring the state agency to court. And the executive branch can't even shoot it down. All they can do it delay the process. But in any event, as I originally said, this incident doesn't have anything to do with the legislature. Take Pride,
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 30 21:11:21 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by terrapin station on Tue Jun 30 20:27:58 2009. Three words: rocking the boat. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 21:12:32 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 30 21:11:21 2009. No, not at all. Please address what I wrote. |
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 30 21:20:03 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by terrapin station on Tue Jun 30 20:27:58 2009. He didn't mean that others would be held back because of this lawsuit. He meant that the dude suing would be held back in a manner similar to how others have been held back in the past. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 21:23:03 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Easy on Tue Jun 30 21:20:03 2009. Ok, thanks. But that's not what he wrote. Now have you deciphered the rest of his post? |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Jun 30 22:00:21 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 30 13:47:02 2009. Since these officers were acting outside the scope of their legitimate authority, what a judge would need to do if and when the verdict comes down against them is to specifically prohibit either the MTA, the NYPD or the City of NY from indemnifying the offending officers and make the officers pay out of their own pockets without any burden on the taxpayers whatsoever. Even if the money is only garnisheed from their paychecks over a period of time, every time the officers see that amount deducted from their paychecks, it will be a constant reminder of their malfeasance!That was my thinking when I made the post you responded to, however I would a go step farther. Place a lean on his property, investment and retirement accounts to pay any and all damage awards. Make an example of him so he and others will know better not to do the same. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 22:14:50 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 30 13:47:02 2009. Since these officers were acting outside the scope of their legitimate authority, what a judge would need to do if and when the verdict comes down against them is to specifically prohibit either the MTA, the NYPD or the City of NY from indemnifying the offending officers and make the officers pay out of their own pockets without any burden on the taxpayers whatsoever. But are you certain that the NYPD, MTA, and City of New York are all 100% not at fault here? Because there has been a report posted here of an NYPD officer using a rule book that contained the pre-199X law of 1050.9(c) that stated that photography IS prohibited. If that officer was issued that book by the NYPD and was not issued a replacement, then the NYPD is at least partially at fault for him enforcing rules that are no longer in effect. Take Pride,
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Posted by Easy on Tue Jun 30 22:21:32 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 21:23:03 2009. Not really. I'd tend to agree more with Zman if rtype were suing his employer, which evidently he is not. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 22:32:26 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by randyo on Tue Jun 30 13:47:02 2009. We don't know if these officers were acting on their own or following department policy on how to treat photographers. There were too many incidents in New York (on and off the subway) involving too many cops to just brush them off as isolated incidents. The officers may very well have been unofficially "encouraged" by their superiors to harass photographers.Even if NYPD did not encourage these actions they very well knew this was going on. They were on notice by the NPPA and the NYCLU that photographers were being harassed. The city and NYPD either by error of commission (actively encouraging the harassment) or by error of omission (failing to act to stop it) share full responsibility. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jun 30 23:16:42 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 22:14:50 2009. Maybe true. However, ignorance of the law is no defence. Apply universally. |
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Posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:18:28 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. "Photography is not a crime"It is to today's police. Who else here has had to deal with the police because of photography? |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 30 23:20:18 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:18:28 2009. *raises hand*But, then, everyone already knew that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 23:21:12 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JohnL on Tue Jun 30 23:16:42 2009. Of course - the officer would still be partially at fault. I was just making the point that the NYPD would not be without fault, as randyo was claiming. |
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Posted by JohnL on Tue Jun 30 23:24:02 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rtype3995 on Tue Jun 30 14:11:54 2009. Not just the money: require a letter of apology to you from the NYPD Chief of Police and an instructional letter to every cop on the beat to the effect that photography is legal and that deleting pictures/detaining photographers etc, etc is criminal harrassment and will be prosecuted as such. |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Tue Jun 30 23:25:14 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:18:28 2009. I did.....got ratted to the cops 2x, got stopped by uniformed officers @ 14th Street on the 8th Avenue Line and by plain clothed officers @ old South Ferry giving me the 9/11 rule as an excuse! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 23:27:18 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by CurAke79 on Tue Jun 30 23:25:14 2009. You mean the 9/11 lie. There is no 9/11 rule. |
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Posted by d_mind on Tue Jun 30 23:33:14 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 22:14:50 2009. Even if the officer had an outdated book, the recent dissemination of an operations order concerning photography would have overruled the outdated information. From what I understand, most officers (with the exception of Housing) were informed of the order at roll call. |
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Posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:36:21 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by CurAke79 on Tue Jun 30 23:25:14 2009. You see, this is all BS. I don't even want to take photos now because of the NYPD's crap. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 23:38:37 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by d_mind on Tue Jun 30 23:33:14 2009. This arrest happened before the issuance of that order |
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Posted by d_mind on Tue Jun 30 23:39:34 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:18:28 2009. *raises hand with Nilet*We had a joking discussion on how my 80-200 could be used to see aliens on the moon. They also had some warning advice about any potential grab'n'go thieves in Broad Channel. |
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Posted by d_mind on Tue Jun 30 23:40:20 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 23:38:37 2009. Brian mentioned some incident but didn't give a timeframe. I know rtypes arrest happened before the order though. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 23:46:03 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JohnL on Tue Jun 30 23:24:02 2009. instructional letter to every cop on the beat to the effect that photography is legal and that deleting pictures/detaining photographers etc, etc is criminal harrassment and will be prosecuted as such.That was issued several weeks ago:  
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 23:57:14 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by d_mind on Tue Jun 30 23:33:14 2009. Would that order over rule what is printed in black and white in an officer's (out of date) rule book? Terrapin Station thinks that an officer might not think so.Anyhow, the incident Terrapin Station spoke of took place several years ago. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 23:57:33 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:36:21 2009. That leave more room for the rest of us on the platform. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 23:57:44 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:36:21 2009. That leaves more room for the rest of us on the platform. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 30 23:58:07 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:18:28 2009. I did!Cop told me it was a station violation! |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 23:58:56 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by d_mind on Tue Jun 30 23:39:34 2009. *raises hand with d_mind and Nilet*A cop once stopped me because she claimed she woke up on the wrong side of the bed that morning and didn't want to be part of my shot. I happily obliged. :-) potential grab'n'go thieves in Broad Channel. I always keep the shoulder strap tightly wound around my hand at all times and never let shooting distract me from being aware of my surroundings. If I feel an area's potentially dicey, I'll bring a heavy monopod along, just in case. My 400 probably was used as a defensive weapon at some point in time, which allowed me to get it on the cheap. (Optically, it's fine) |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 23:59:26 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 23:57:44 2009. Haha. :-) |
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Posted by d_mind on Wed Jul 1 00:04:00 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 23:58:56 2009. I do the same thing with the strap, do you use the Nikon one or a wider third party one? I use this big beast that my grandfather used to use on his F, this thing could double as a whip.Always a good idea to observe for a while before getting the equipment out; what others see as a group of friends could quite possibly be mopery at its |
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Posted by JohnL on Wed Jul 1 00:35:52 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 23:46:03 2009. Thanks for that. So a beat cop cannot claim that he/she is unaware of the law and the department’s procedures. Therefore, as well as suing the cop (individually, not the force) you file a criminal complaint of harrassment as well. |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Wed Jul 1 01:20:06 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by rr4567 on Tue Jun 30 23:36:21 2009. Don't let them stop you from doing your hobby....you are letting them win. I don't how many lawsuits against the NYPD its going to take for them to understand that photography isn't illegal anymore, shit even the T/O's and C/R's don't give photographers a hassle anoymore! |
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Posted by d_mind on Wed Jul 1 01:21:42 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by CurAke79 on Wed Jul 1 01:20:06 2009. even the T/O's and C/R's don't give photographers a hassle anoymore!I wouldn't go that far. |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Wed Jul 1 01:23:43 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by d_mind on Wed Jul 1 01:21:42 2009. They still give photographers a hassle? |
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Posted by 5119 on Wed Jul 1 01:24:42 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Jun 30 22:00:21 2009. I whole heartedly agree.Police Officers that go beyond the scope of their authority need to be held accountable for their actions, just like the rest of us. |
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Posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 1 02:29:51 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. What firm is representing you? I found the lawyer's name, but can't seem to track down the firm. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jul 1 02:53:50 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 30 18:57:04 2009. He's at CTL now? Oy vey! |
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Posted by JBar387 on Wed Jul 1 03:23:44 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by CurAke79 on Wed Jul 1 01:20:06 2009. Speak for yourself! The T/O on this train gave me the 9/11 hooey! T/O "Hey You, Come Here! Don't you know since 9/11 it is against the law to take pictures in the subway?" Me (Deep breath, Calm voice) No it is not according to the MTA website. (After shaking his head) T/O well I was told by my supervisors to say that to people. Me: I understand have a safe trip. (I walked away!) that was 3/26/09. Of course, last week I had a couple of C/R look at me funny at Court Square. But they said nothing. So far I have not had anything since then. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Jul 1 08:46:43 2009, in response to Quick Question for RType3995 (Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN), posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 1 02:29:51 2009. You will find more on this case including the lawyers involved on this site |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jul 1 09:28:15 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:23:44 2009. I disagree; standing up for your rights is NOT "being so f'n stupid with police officers". When an officer takes the law into his own hands that crap needs to be stopped. If it takes a punitive lawsuit so be it.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jul 1 09:37:34 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. I hope he wins his case, but I'm personally opposed to paying large sums of money in situations like these. The money has nothing to do with righting the wrong.(I know that some will argue that the money will get the attention of the NYPD and the city, but I disagree - getting slapped in public court and the media should be sufficient incentive.) |
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Posted by rtype3995 on Wed Jul 1 10:47:23 2009, in response to Quick Question for RType3995 (Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN), posted by Nilet on Wed Jul 1 02:29:51 2009. Nilet,cohen and fitch is doing the honors of representing me....... |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Wed Jul 1 10:59:14 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jul 1 09:37:34 2009. The purpose of this and most civil lawsuits is twofold:1) To punish defendants with civil judgments and/or forfeiture for the wrong done against the plaintiff, 2) To force defendants and other individuals or corporations to change their behavior in the future, to avoid a recurrence of the wrong specified in the lawsuit. A related aim of civil litigation is to demonstrate by example, what can happen to you if you engage in behaviors that precipitated the original lawsuit. |
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Posted by error46146 on Wed Jul 1 11:04:02 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Excellent news! Photography is NOT a crime, and hopefully he gets every nickel paid back to you after what they have done to him! |
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Posted by bmtlines on Wed Jul 1 12:08:01 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by RailBus63 on Wed Jul 1 09:37:34 2009. I disagree - getting slapped in public court and the media should be sufficient incentiveIf that were sufficient then why didn't the NYPD change its ways after losing at least two lawsuits brought by the NYCLU on behalf of photographers who were illegally detained. Obviously the City of New York and the NYPD don't care about losing in court. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 1 14:35:58 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JohnL on Tue Jun 30 23:16:42 2009. However, the individual supervisory officer who issued the erroneous copy of the regulations and the higher ranking officer who allowed such issuance would also be at fault since as a supervisor, they should know better! |
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