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RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009 Rtype3995 (Taylor) is suing the city for $1 million in damages arising out of his arrest and detention last February at the Freeman Street station. I hope you get every nickel of that, Mr. Taylor!Photography is not a crime |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Jun 30 07:37:08 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. I hope he gets every cent + some! I also hope those officers + the sargent are disciplined heavily. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 07:41:37 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. nice |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 07:58:26 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Excellent!! Lawsuits like this should be filed across the country each and every time a photographer is detained - only then will the harassment stop. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 08:04:08 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 07:58:26 2009. IMHO, Taylor's lawsuit will address his individual case, there needs to be a class-action suit involving all photographers (rail and non-rail alike) that are harrassed by the police during a set time frame. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by arnine on Tue Jun 30 08:04:48 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 07:58:26 2009. I agree with you. I wish groups like the ACLU will take more cases on like these and even seek them out then we will see action. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 08:18:31 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 08:04:08 2009. I know - and it does seem that the situation in NYC is getting better. Even if it isn't a class action lawsuit if each and every photographer who is harassed files a lawsuit instead of just accepting the harassment then police departments across the country will take notice and stop bothering photographers.All too many photographers just accept it and move on thereby enabling the authorities to continue. Kudos to those who sue! |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Karl M, Ex New Yorker on Tue Jun 30 08:21:04 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. AWESOME....Karl M |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 30 08:27:39 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Great! Good luck! I hope you win every penny! |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by ebtmikado on Tue Jun 30 08:46:24 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Congratulations and BEST WISHES!This ridiculous nonsense has to stop! But I guess it's easier (and safer) for a cop to harrass a peaceful photographer than it is to actually attempt to stop a criminal. Lee |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 30 09:35:11 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Just read it in the papers i hope he and every railfan that gets falsely arrested and harrased by the police for taking pictures within the rules follow this route...Get Paid... |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:36:34 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. That's your tax money, dude. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:37:24 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 30 08:27:39 2009. That's your tax money, friend. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:37:47 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by ebtmikado on Tue Jun 30 08:46:24 2009. That's your tax money, guy. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:38:14 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 07:58:26 2009. That's your tax money, friend. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 30 09:40:28 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:37:24 2009. That's your tax money, friend.Too bad the cops who locked him up didnt think about this as well, because it's probally thiers also.. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 09:42:48 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:38:14 2009. And yours too - so perhaps you should put pressure on your representatives to stop harassing photographers. Doing nothing and accepting it is the same as enabling it. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by znufrii on Tue Jun 30 09:43:35 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:36:34 2009. It's also our tax money paying for these police officers to harass innocent photographers in the first place. I'm not sure that's any better use of public funds than paying out a settlement for unlawful harassment. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 09:46:05 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:36:34 2009. Chris,You don't want the ACLU to get involved and you don't want us to sue. What is your solution to ending the harassment? |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:48:11 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 09:42:48 2009. I'll have a meeting set up with Bloomberg this afternoon...I'll bet he'll be shitting himself over it... |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:49:40 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by znufrii on Tue Jun 30 09:43:35 2009. Said settlement won't do much except allow a fellow railfan to re-equip with a really nice camera. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:50:39 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 09:46:05 2009. Allowing time to pass so the 9/11 fears fade. It's the only thing that will work. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 09:53:53 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:49:40 2009. It also brings attention to the matter. While $1,000,000 is excessive in compensatory damages, it certainly is a shocking figure, isn't it?Still, I'm expecting to see RType3995 shooting with one of these, or at the very least, a couple D3X's . . . |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 30 09:55:27 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Good for him! And those incompetent cops cost the taxpayers some big moolah. A couple more of these and maybe they'll pay attention to the rules.your pal, Fred |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 09:57:03 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Fred G on Tue Jun 30 09:55:27 2009. IAWTP 100%. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 09:58:39 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:50:39 2009. O RLY?9/11 paranoia's just another pathetic excuse to justify harassment of photographers. Your "approach" is almost farcical in its absurdity. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by znufrii on Tue Jun 30 10:00:24 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:50:39 2009. That's the thing about power, though. If it is allowed to proceed unchecked, it will persist for its own sake, not caring that the original justification for it has long since passed from memory. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 30 10:10:36 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:37:24 2009. Oh, right. I forgot you're a right-wing nut. :(Honestly, though— we know you oppose civil liberties, but did you really think we'd consider your "but the taxes!!!!!1!1!!111!eleventyone!" argument to be any more credible? |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 10:11:51 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:50:39 2009. That is unacceptable! Police departments and the cities that employ them need to be sued repeatedly until they get the message.And they are getting the message - unless there has been another major incident that we are not aware of it appears that the NYPD has eased up. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Railman718 on Tue Jun 30 10:23:18 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Nilet on Tue Jun 30 10:10:36 2009. Dude why even bother to take what an unemployed right wing person got to say?;o) |
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Posted by E and F and sometimes J on Tue Jun 30 10:36:27 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Wow. This is nice. Even if RType3995 loses we (photographers) win! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Tue Jun 30 10:38:24 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:50:39 2009. It will never fade---until the current generation AND their children all pass away. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 30 11:05:45 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 09:37:47 2009. Not for nothing! That's my tax paying money too. I'd rather give it to him than give another dime to the people who do this. I'm sorry it will most likely mean higher taxes for us. But with this circus goverment we have, were gonna pay anyway. So there is no difference.(That's my say only!) |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 11:15:06 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 09:58:39 2009. 1940 was a different era. And it faded. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 11:15:32 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by znufrii on Tue Jun 30 10:00:24 2009. Civil suits aren't the answer. |
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Posted by Sand Box John on Tue Jun 30 11:23:34 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 09:46:05 2009. What is your solution to ending the harassment?Sue the cop. Court award damages out of the cops pocket. John in the sand box of Maryland's eastern shore. |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:23:44 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 09:46:05 2009. My solution - stop being so f'n stupid with police officers. They are not everywhere and no picture is worth dealing with them. Move on to another station |
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Posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:25:38 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Sand Box John on Tue Jun 30 11:23:34 2009. nah, city likely picks up the tab not the cop if it was during the performance of duty and the cop was not doing stuff that absolutely shocks the conscience |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 11:29:14 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:25:38 2009. Arresting someone for violating a nonexistent law is pretty shocking. |
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Posted by Fine, Howard, and Fine on Tue Jun 30 11:30:43 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. I think it takes some balls to sue your own employer's police services.It would take even more to sue your own employer. I think it would be better if TA employees were on better terms with the police that are supposedly there to protect them and the public. Having the police barge into a station and start arresting TA employees for doing legal things, looks really stupid on everybody's part. Not just the NYPD's. It would be nice if the TA could stand up for its own employees doing legal things on TA property, instead of making them fend their way on their own. |
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Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 11:31:55 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 11:15:06 2009. Do you even remember reading the article? The point was that harassment of photographers is nothing new.If we'd followed your logic of "doing nothing," photography would've been prohibited in 2005, since the NYPD dropped its request to the MTA for prohibiting photography only in response to massive public outcry. |
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Posted by JBar387 on Tue Jun 30 11:52:08 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue Jun 30 11:15:32 2009. And being arrested and detained for breaking no law's is? |
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Posted by Subterranean Railway on Tue Jun 30 11:54:30 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:23:44 2009. The issue isn't getting a specific shot, but rather the much more serious problem of police enforcement of nonexistent laws, something you seem to be completely fine with. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Tue Jun 30 11:55:00 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:23:44 2009. IAWTP. There has to be more to many of the stories posted here, especially by people who repeatedly have problems. |
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Posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 30 12:09:41 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by BMTLines on Tue Jun 30 07:58:26 2009. Nah this will just push the MTA to ban photography outright |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 12:10:13 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by znufrii on Tue Jun 30 10:00:24 2009. Never mind that the original justification was not valid in the first place. |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 12:12:05 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by ClearAspect on Tue Jun 30 12:09:41 2009. They would be in for a huge fight against an even better organized coalition of artist groups and the NYCLU - they won't try that again. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jun 30 12:12:15 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:23:44 2009. Disagree 100%. There are plenty of photos worth dealing with them. There's also a lot of money in it for you if you deal with them, it seems. So why not? |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Tue Jun 30 12:12:50 2009, in response to RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by JayZeeBMT on Tue Jun 30 07:32:14 2009. Good on you, mate. Hope you get it all, plus I strongly hope the NYPD and other operations around the country learn from this. Good luck and Godspeed. |
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Posted by bmtlines on Tue Jun 30 12:15:16 2009, in response to Re: RType3995 Suing NYPD, NYC for $1M in Photography Arrest: NYDN, posted by mtk52983 on Tue Jun 30 11:23:44 2009. So your solution is that photographers must give up their rights and obey illegal orders without question. It is NOT a solution. |
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