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Posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009 It is awesome. I thought I'd hate but I love it! Go see it!! |
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Posted by RAILFAN_7_40ST on Fri Jun 12 13:36:53 2009, in response to Watching Pelham 123, posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009. shhhhhhhhhhi will, at 8pm :) |
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Posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:38:12 2009, in response to Watching Pelham 123, posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009. I just got out it really was good! |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 12 15:22:52 2009, in response to Watching Pelham 123, posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009. No Caz Dolowicz. End of story. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Fri Jun 12 15:42:29 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 12 15:22:52 2009. No Bomb Scare that turned out to be a canteloupe. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 12 16:20:31 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by South Ferry on Fri Jun 12 15:42:29 2009. No way I'm paying big money to see a Hollywoodized version of a film that is an absolute NYC classic that didn't need to be remade again.Just the little scene when Garber meets Inspector Daniels in the unmarked car and seeing that he is black, starts fumfering "Oh, I thought you were taller, er, shorter, er, I don't know what I thought." Classic. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 16:24:48 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 12 16:20:31 2009. There's a lot of stuff from the original that's not "doable" today, including the whole bit with the Japanese guys. |
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Posted by NJCL2308 on Fri Jun 12 16:43:47 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 16:24:48 2009. "Right this way, dummies, right this way." |
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Posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:52:34 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by NJCL2308 on Fri Jun 12 16:43:47 2009. Hey, how could that guy set up internet in the subway when it would probably cost a billion dollars for the city to do the same thing?It took him five minutes and it looked like he used a $60. router. |
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Posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:54:11 2009, in response to Watching Pelham 123, posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009. Despite the inconsistencies, which distracted me, it was a good movie and I recommend it. It is more like a sequal, than a remake.Would that make it Pelham 123-2? |
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Posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:55:45 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 16:24:48 2009. Ah so! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:05:15 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by NJCL2308 on Fri Jun 12 16:43:47 2009. Heck, the NY Times can't even quote the thing properly these days.The actual quote: "You know what they’re going to say. The Times is going to support you. The News is going to knock you. The Post will take both sides at the same time. The rich will support you...so will the blacks, the Puerto Ricans won't give a shit...but come on, Al, quit stalling! |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:06:40 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:55:45 2009. And the Italians would go nuts with the "On weekends he works for the Mafia" stuff. Elizando would never be allowed to call that passanger a nigger.I miss the old days, at certain times. |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 12 17:11:28 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:05:15 2009. Heck, the NY Times can't even quote the thing properly these days.They quoted it properly. You don't understand the function of an ellipsis. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:25:08 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 12 17:11:28 2009. They quoted it properly. You don't understand the function of an ellipsis.No, I was emhasizing the parts left out of the exact quote, not the grammatical correctness of said "quote". |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 12 17:30:29 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:54:11 2009. Ummm ... no. It would be Pelham 123+. :) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:36:24 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123-Tunnel Internet, posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:52:34 2009. It's a movie. For 5 years I watched "Battlestar Galactica" routinely defy the laws of physics.....dramas are not supposed to be accurate, they're supposed to provide....drama. |
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Posted by Dave on Fri Jun 12 18:55:20 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123-Tunnel Internet, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:36:24 2009. Oh, yeah? Well, FRACK YOU!!!!!!!! |
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Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 12 19:00:23 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:25:08 2009. No, I was emhasizing the parts left out of the exact quote, not the grammatical correctness of said "quote".I was talking about the Times' use of an ellipsis, not yours. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 19:08:10 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Fri Jun 12 19:00:23 2009. Which is totally irrelevant to this discussion. |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Fri Jun 12 19:58:21 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 17:06:40 2009. Despite all that, they did make the white man appear to be the ignorant one in the end as he discovers that they understood english. Same thing as Daniels turned out to be right about the deadman, Mr. Grey using the N-word towards a passenger, and Caz objecting to a woman (who was also black) working there. In all, it was the portrayal of white men as ignorant racists. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:28:56 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123-Tunnel Internet, posted by Dave on Fri Jun 12 18:55:20 2009. Feldecarb! :)I watched part of one episode of the "new" Galactica before I bailed (too much weirdness, not enough Colonial Vipers), and I noticed they got rid of all those cool "decimal-type" time units from the 1978 series "centons", etc. Guess they thought it would go over the head of the target audience (which for the most part is 30 years dumber). |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:30:28 2009, in response to Watching Pelham 123, posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009. Got my ticket already for the first show tomorrow! Can't wait :) |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Jun 13 00:41:53 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by peppertree5706 on Fri Jun 12 16:54:11 2009. You, know that is a good point. In a recent magazine, Washington said it best. That this is not a remake it is a movie to stand on its own (or something like that). I agree as I told several people I know I said they can watch this new version first without it ruining the old versions for them |
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Posted by RAILFAN_7_40ST on Sat Jun 13 00:46:00 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Jun 12 17:30:29 2009. just make it as "coney island 705".new name, new caracters, net story :) just a sugestion. |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 13 01:49:19 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Broadway Buffer on Fri Jun 12 19:58:21 2009. Well back in those days a lot of white men were that way. Some still are today.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 13 01:51:14 2009, in response to Watching Pelham 123, posted by Arnine on Fri Jun 12 13:08:02 2009. I enjoyed it as well, and it's best to take it at face value and not compare it to the original. It's not quite apples and oranges but nearly so.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Jun 13 12:06:40 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 13 01:51:14 2009. True very true. |
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Posted by Jeromeline on Sat Jun 13 15:04:16 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by arnine on Sat Jun 13 00:41:53 2009. If this movie is to stand on it's own, it's going to need some crutches. The only redeeming part was Travolta's acting. |
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Posted by peppertree5706 on Sat Jun 13 20:29:49 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Jeromeline on Sat Jun 13 15:04:16 2009. After I saw the 2009 Pelham Bay 1-2-3, I watched the 1974 version. The problem with the new movie is that the 1974 movie was SO ACCURATE. As far as I know, there may have been a few stations that had labels from other stations in the first version.Am I right when I stated that 1974 Taking Of Pelham Bay 1-2-3 was 99% accurate. I think the biggest stretch was the number 6 going to South Ferry instead of Brooklyn Bridge. And using the stations on the number 1 local instead of the 6. |
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Posted by arnine on Sat Jun 13 21:05:17 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by peppertree5706 on Sat Jun 13 20:29:49 2009. Honestly, it is just a movie other than us railfans most will not know the difference excpet for 1 or 2 obvious differences and most people do not really expect everything to be 100% accurate. Just because the 1974 version was very accurate (I doubt 99%) does not mean anything really things have to be updated for the time at least this movie was filmed here rather than the Toronto version |
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Posted by The Rail king on Sat Jun 13 21:27:51 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by peppertree5706 on Sat Jun 13 20:29:49 2009. Check it out in the original, I'm sure it was mentioned here but I'll say it. Grand Central tower was actually today's New York Transit Museum or Court Street terminal tower. The train ran on the 6th Ave line @ some points in the original also. Take a look in some of the scenes where U'll C R-22 #7339 coupled to an R-10 @ Hoyt n Schermhorn St. In the movie that was suppose to B 42nd St. We all know the #6 runs up against the wall since it's a local. In fact they used a bunch of R-22's for that movie. The operating car was #7339 but in some scenes, They even used 7434 as an operating car in some of the tunnel scenes. Also as the train left what was that 28th Street Station the last car of the train had car #9339 on it and this was an R-22! |
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Posted by peppertree5706 on Sat Jun 13 21:48:44 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by The Rail king on Sat Jun 13 21:27:51 2009. I am good at spotting stuff, but not that good.Good going. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Jun 13 22:19:05 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Jun 12 19:08:10 2009. no it's not |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Jun 13 22:29:33 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123-Tunnel Internet, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:28:56 2009. You missed out on a good show. Ending was just amazing even from just a 'guns a blazing' standpoint. |
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Posted by Freddy the Foamer on Sat Jun 13 22:40:00 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by The Rail king on Sat Jun 13 21:27:51 2009. In that time period the #6 didn't run R21/22's. I hope they cuss and swear up a storm like they did in the origina;. It gave a new meaning to "toilet mouth". My parents didn't appreciate my well earned lesson. |
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Posted by Easy on Sat Jun 13 23:07:20 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Mitch45 on Fri Jun 12 16:20:31 2009. lol. I just paid $12 to see it at the Arclight. I dunno if I'd call that "big money".And there was a very similar scene in the new movie. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jun 13 23:33:58 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by The Rail king on Sat Jun 13 21:27:51 2009. Yep, and 7439 was the lead motor of Pelham 128 (the trailer of Pelham 123 that was stuck at 28th St and whose radio Inspector Daniels used to communicate w/ Garber.Incidentally, a few months after I saw Pelham 123, I saw 7339, this time on its correct line (3). Still was graffiti-free, just like in the film (dunno when they filmed those scenes, had to be early 1974 at the latest, so I dunno how the TA kept it from getting tagged for about a year). Unlike in the film, it was buried in the middle of the consist. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sat Jun 13 23:37:00 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Fri Jun 12 23:30:28 2009.  I wore my t-shirt that a friend gave me from the Transit Museum :) 
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 14 00:37:45 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Fred G on Sat Jun 13 01:51:14 2009. I haven't seen it yet, but that's what I heard too. And of course, unless you are a railfan....most of the people going to see it never even heard of the original, much less have seen it.... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 14 00:39:31 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jun 14 00:37:45 2009. They better have all seen it - it's a classic that you certainly don't need to be a railfan to enjoy. |
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Posted by Transit Jeff on Sun Jun 14 05:06:11 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by arnine on Sat Jun 13 21:05:17 2009. I didn't read this entire thread, but Channel 11 in NYC will show the original version of Pelham at 8:00 P.M. Sunday evening, June 14th. It will be on until 10:00 P.M. They talked about it after they did a review of the new Pelham movie on Saturday's Channel 11 News at Ten. From the clips I saw in the review, I don't think I like the new version. |
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Posted by Transit Jeff on Sun Jun 14 05:18:55 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jun 14 00:39:31 2009. And speaking of classics, I guess you've all seen the black & white classic called "The Incident". That's a great NYC subway movie. I've had it on tape for years. |
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Posted by peppertree5706 on Sun Jun 14 07:52:14 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Transit Jeff on Sun Jun 14 05:18:55 2009. Have not seen that for ten years, when it was on cable. Have found the movie on youtube and will watch it again today.One thing I remember is an outside scene. Inside was a mock up of a Worlds Fair car. Outside, it showed a modern car (R22? forgot which) as if it were the outside of that same car. Have seen that happen in other movies. Here is an explanation of the producers dealing with NYCTA in 1967, when trying to film on TA property. http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0061814/ |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 14 12:05:27 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123 [R], posted by Easy on Sat Jun 13 23:07:20 2009. $12 to see a movie ?????????New releases cost between $2.50 and $5.00 out here. ROAR |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jun 14 12:13:19 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123 [R], posted by Broadway Lion on Sun Jun 14 12:05:27 2009. The Arclight is a little nicer than most theaters and it's in Hollywood. For example it has assigned seating. I could have paid a couple of dollars less if I saw it somewhere else.New releases cost between $2.50 and $5.00 out here. Really??!?? $2.50-$5.00 is just ridiculous. That's what I was paying when I was in college over 20 years ago. |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Sun Jun 14 22:10:35 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Transit Jeff on Sun Jun 14 05:06:11 2009. Thanks. I just finished watching it again."70mph through the South Ferry loop!" |
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Posted by ntrainride on Mon Jun 15 14:46:35 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Transit Jeff on Sun Jun 14 05:18:55 2009. Yes indeed. Here's a little snippet of The Incident. Lovely motor sounds... |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Jun 15 15:02:40 2009, in response to Re: Watching Pelham 123, posted by Transit Jeff on Sun Jun 14 05:18:55 2009. Turner runs it every few months ... burned it to a DVD. |
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