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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009 This was requested by another poster the other day, but I think the thread got buried among the millions of other South Ferry photo threads: |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 00:03:31 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. Beautiful! |
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Posted by CurAke79 on Sat Mar 21 01:19:57 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. Looks great! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Mar 21 04:09:57 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by CurAke79 on Sat Mar 21 01:19:57 2009. Less filling! |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Mar 21 05:04:21 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. Wouldn't the old station and tracks leading up to it be black, as they aren't used for "revenue" service anymore? |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Mar 21 09:13:36 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Mar 21 05:04:21 2009. As of now, yes. As of when the map was drawn, no. Plus the red helps to clarify what the old service was. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 12:29:20 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. Hem, the edge of the loop station seems like it is just above the new platform. I wonder if they could build a stairwell connection so riders can go to the Ferry terminal without having to go outside? |
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Posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 21 16:12:13 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. Any chance that the #5 could use the old SF platform? |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Mar 21 16:22:15 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 12:29:20 2009. Whenever SF Terminal is very quiet and (5) trains are running to Bowling Green, you can hear faint curving sounds from above when a (5) is passing through.OTOH, It's only 5-10 second walk from the terminal doors to the new entrance! Why is it that so serious to everyone here? Especially when they're not even done with the Plaza yet. They still have to build the bus loop, the car/taxi drop-off area & the canopies. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 16:24:50 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Mar 21 16:22:15 2009. It's called loss of routine.When somebody changes theirroutine to something else, they panic because their wotld is about to end. They will survive, of course, but they don't know it yet. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Mar 21 16:29:08 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Elkeeper on Sat Mar 21 16:12:13 2009. None. Zero. They didn't spend billions to replace Old South Ferry just to have it used by another line, creating the exact same problems with it that the #1 did. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sat Mar 21 16:36:38 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 12:29:20 2009. There is a connection between the new station and old station, exactly where you described it, from just past the T/O position at old South Ferry to the mezzanine at new South Ferry. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 16:43:07 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Mar 21 16:36:38 2009. Oic, thanks. |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 16:44:55 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Mar 21 16:22:15 2009. I'm only saying they should MAYBE keep it for exit only so riders won't have to deal with the outside elements: rain/snow etc. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 16:45:56 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Mar 21 16:36:38 2009. What did they do with the exteior entrance to the old station? Will they keep that as an employee entrance? |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Mar 21 16:48:31 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 16:44:55 2009. I understand what you're saying, but I don't think it would be worth the effort. The old entrance could become retail/food or something to that effect. And I believe the MTA website mentions that the Plaza should be complete by the Summer. |
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Posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 21 17:05:04 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. How difficult would it be to connect Whitehall to the new station? |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 21 17:11:50 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by BrooklynBus on Sat Mar 21 17:05:04 2009. Excruciatingly impossible.ROAR |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 19:01:08 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Mar 21 17:11:50 2009. But iuf it's impossible and you don't do it, there's no pain! :0) |
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Posted by Alex L. on Sat Mar 21 19:03:06 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Sat Mar 21 16:48:31 2009. The old entrance could become retail/food or something to that effect.You mean like all those stores at St. George? And I believe the MTA website mentions that the Plaza should be complete by the Summer. By the summer of what year? |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Mar 21 19:03:43 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Alex L. on Sat Mar 21 19:03:06 2009. LOL, summer of 2019???? |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sat Mar 21 19:36:53 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 16:24:50 2009. No, they call NJT Customer Service and ask for free tickets. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 19:38:40 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Ken S. on Sat Mar 21 19:36:53 2009. LOL! |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 21 19:57:58 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Sat Mar 21 04:09:57 2009. Tastes great!:) |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 21 19:58:59 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Ken S. on Sat Mar 21 19:36:53 2009. Or yell at the conductor. |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sat Mar 21 20:03:37 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 21 19:58:59 2009. Who then calls the police and has them dealt with. Then the passengers call Customer Service and ask for free tickets. |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat Mar 21 21:18:49 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. Thankx. |
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Posted by randyo on Sat Mar 21 21:20:15 2009, in response to New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Fri Mar 20 23:40:47 2009. If your map is geographically accurate, it seems like a South Ferry platform could be constructed under the old loop station for Lex Av trains entering the Joralemon St tube. This would not only provide improved access for East Side passengers to the ferry but also the BMT Whitehall St station as well. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 21:44:13 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by randyo on Sat Mar 21 21:20:15 2009. I like that idea! |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Mar 21 22:00:05 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sat Mar 21 19:03:43 2009. Don't mention it. I'll be 31 years old in 2019. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sat Mar 21 22:01:17 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 16:45:56 2009. I saw that it was gated off and boarded up today. |
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Posted by PHXTUSbusfan on Sat Mar 21 22:08:43 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sat Mar 21 09:13:36 2009. I agree. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 22:19:08 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by 33rd Street on Sat Mar 21 22:01:17 2009. Thank you. |
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Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Mar 22 00:11:13 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sat Mar 21 19:57:58 2009. Possibly NSFW :) |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sun Mar 22 00:42:37 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Mar 21 22:19:08 2009. You're welcome, sir. |
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Posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 22 02:35:10 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Grand Concourse on Sat Mar 21 12:29:20 2009. I do not believe that this map is to scale, but rather to show the relationships of the various tracks. So making inferences about the actual locations of structures and facilities might be premature.Mike |
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Posted by Grand Concourse on Sun Mar 22 02:47:39 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 22 02:35:10 2009. Of course, but G1Ravage already pointed out in his post that there is a connection between them. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 22 09:48:26 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by FYBklyn1959 on Sun Mar 22 00:11:13 2009. I miss those old commercials. The one in the bowling alley was great. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 22 10:56:08 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Ken S. on Sat Mar 21 20:03:37 2009. Customer Service gives them a ticket that says, "This is a free ticket. It's not good for anything; it's just free.":) |
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Posted by Ken S. on Sun Mar 22 10:57:31 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Mar 22 10:56:08 2009. LOL!Actually, these NJT tickets are good for any trip from what I've heard on railroad.net. |
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Posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Mar 22 11:14:08 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Michael549 on Sun Mar 22 02:35:10 2009. The map IS to scale. I used blueprints from the actual construction to place these stations. The only mistake on it is that the platform has a slight curve to it, which puts the bumper blocks a bit closer to the Montague tracks. |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sun Mar 22 12:16:09 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by checkthedoorlight on Sun Mar 22 11:14:08 2009. One thing I observed yesterday is the placement of the switches. On your track map, it seems the switches are about 7-8 cars lenghs from the end of the platform. I saw the switches seem to be about 3-4 car lenghs from the platform. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 13:36:35 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by 33rd Street on Sat Mar 21 22:00:05 2009. DAMN!! You'll be OLD then! |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 13:39:27 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Mar 21 16:36:38 2009. Yeah, I looking through pics on NYC subway.org, I foound the temporary headhouse that was in use in the mid 2000s...I'd forgotten all about it. But didn't that lead into the station from a different direction- like near the TO's position or something? There were wooden boards over the regular passageway, as it comes back to me, right?A pic from 1905 suggests the station was accesible from the front as well. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 14:02:30 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by randyo on Sat Mar 21 21:20:15 2009. True. But the connection between "South Ferry" on the 4/5 and Whitehall Street would be via the #1 South Ferry station- sort of liek the crazy transfers at Fulton Street and at Canal St... |
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Posted by 33rd Street on Sun Mar 22 14:11:32 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 13:39:27 2009. A lot of Contract One IRT stations had their entrances modified over the years. Although the entrances on the uptown platform at Bleecker Street are at their original postitions. |
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Posted by MainR3664 on Sun Mar 22 14:33:39 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by 33rd Street on Sun Mar 22 14:11:32 2009. Do you recall entry to the station about 5 years ago? I had forgotten the temporary entrance in use during the SF terminal construction...but another passageway WAS in use...but I don't remember if it was in the front or rear of the station. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Mar 22 16:15:29 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by randyo on Sat Mar 21 21:20:15 2009. This would not only provide improved access for East Side passengers to the ferry but also the BMT Whitehall St station as well.Court St - Boro Hall. |
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Posted by Jersey Mike on Mon Mar 23 00:52:58 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Mar 21 16:29:08 2009. Having the first 5 cars platform is better than no cars platforming. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Mon Mar 23 01:11:03 2009, in response to Re: New South Ferry track map, posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Sun Mar 22 16:15:29 2009. Connection between the 4/5 and BMT at Court/Borough Hall iz a maze. First to the 2/3 side, up a staircase, through a mezzanine and down another staircase. |
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