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New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 12:04:17 2008

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Rich Galiano sent me a note that he has some new photos of the Redbirds on NJ Scuba. Video forthcoming.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Nov 26 12:52:39 2008, in response to New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 12:04:17 2008.

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Thanks for posting that!

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R42 4787 on Wed Nov 26 16:36:44 2008, in response to New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 12:04:17 2008.

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You can even see some of the red paint underneath the plant growth, with white peeking through. Is that the all-white scheme from circa 1982 that preceded the late 80s red paint? This car now looks half Redbird and half early 80s white. In 5-10 years, will the original 1964 turquoise finally show out?

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:44:09 2008, in response to New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 12:04:17 2008.

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Why does it not like Safari (or Chrome)?

I tried viewing this earlier on my iPhone, and now using Safari on my desktop, and I get the same thing.

I just tried it using Chrome, and I get the same error page.



Firefox works fine with it.

Meanwhile, I found the function which calls up this error page. It's the BrowserCheck() function of their global.js file.

function BrowserCheck()
{
//// acceptable browsers:
//alert ( navigator.appName + " // " + navigator.appVersion ) ;

if( navigator.userAgent.indexOf( "Chrome" , 0 ) >= 0 )
{
window.location.replace( "http://njscuba.net/util/error-other.html" ) ;
return 1 ;
}

if( navigator.userAgent.indexOf( "Safari" , 0 ) >= 0 )
{
window.location.replace( "http://njscuba.net/util/error-other.html" ) ;
return 1 ;
}

if( navigator.appName == "Microsoft Internet Explorer" && parseFloat(navigator.appVersion) >= 4.0 )
{
if( ( navigator.userAgent.indexOf( "MSIE 7" , 0 ) >= 0 )
|| ( navigator.userAgent.indexOf( "MSIE 8" , 0 ) >= 0 )
|| ( navigator.userAgent.indexOf( "MSIE 9" , 0 ) >= 0 ) ) //// future?
{
browser = "IE" ;
return 0 ;
}
}

if( navigator.appName == "Opera" && parseFloat(navigator.appVersion) >= 7.11 )
{
browser = "NS" ;
return 0 ;
}

if( navigator.appName == "Netscape" && parseFloat(navigator.appVersion ) >= 5.0 )
{
browser = "NS" ;
return 0 ;
}

if( navigator.appName == "Konqueror" && parseFloat(navigator.appVersion ) >= 5.0 )
{
browser = "NS" ;
return 0 ;
}

if( navigator.appName == "Safari" && parseFloat(navigator.appVersion ) >= 5.0 )
{
browser = "NS" ;
return 0 ;
}

if ( ! check_browser ) return 0 ;
//// reject the rest:
//alert( "This website requires MS Internet Explorer 6.0+ or Netscape 6.0+\n\nPlease upgrade your browser." ) ;
window.location.replace( "http://njscuba.net/util/error-other.html" ) ;
return 1 ;
}


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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 16:45:24 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:44:09 2008.

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that's dumb, i think

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:55:40 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 16:45:24 2008.

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I managed to view it in Safari, but I had to disable JavaScript in order to do it.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 23:27:27 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:44:09 2008.

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The webmaster has strong opinions…

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 23:29:13 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 23:27:27 2008.

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No, it's more than that. Excluding people from viewing your website based on their browser choice is ASSININE.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R42 4787 on Wed Nov 26 23:35:17 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 23:29:13 2008.

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No, it's just a techincal issue.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 23:36:29 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 23:29:13 2008.

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Especially when you're trying to access the site using a mobile device, and you're "stuck" using a browser that it doesn't like.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 23:54:07 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 23:36:29 2008.

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exactly

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Fred G on Thu Nov 27 04:07:23 2008, in response to New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 12:04:17 2008.

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Very cool, and so is this:

Thanks to Captain Jim of the Gypsy Blood
for making a detour so I could stop here


Thanks for posting this, John. IIRC, you are involved with diving as well, no?

your pal,
Fred



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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 27 10:03:58 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:44:09 2008.

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I can't view the site. It gives me a message that I should


This web browser is incapable of displaying all the features and functionality of the website.
I suggest the latest version of Firefox, Opera, or Internet Explorer.

This is the first site I have ever clicked on that gave me a message like that.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 27 10:04:41 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R42 4787 on Wed Nov 26 23:35:17 2008.

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It has to be more than that, as I have NEVER had a problem looking at any website before this.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 27 10:06:16 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Nov 26 23:54:07 2008.

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I will just have to wait till I am on a different computer. There's no way I am changing my browser on the computer I am using just to see that site. it's unfortunate, as I wanted to see the photos, but I think this webmaster is ridiculous.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Nov 27 10:07:41 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R42 4787 on Wed Nov 26 23:35:17 2008.

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No it's not.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 27 12:26:04 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:44:09 2008.

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It won't even work on IE6!

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by FYBklyn1959 on Mon Dec 1 10:20:39 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 27 12:26:04 2008.

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Strange, works fine on Netscape 7.0 (on a Mac running classic OS 9.0 at that). Lot of sites no longer support that combination.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Dec 1 12:20:57 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Nov 26 16:44:09 2008.

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It equates Safari, Firefox, and Opera with Netscape. Never heard of Konquerer. His little opinion of Safari is of no consequence, but I can understand the statement about mobile browsers.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Dec 1 12:21:44 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 27 12:26:04 2008.

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Consider yourself lucky, then.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 1 12:49:20 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Thu Nov 27 10:06:16 2008.

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IAWTP. BTW, I think the webmaster is reading the thread, because he updated the "error" page since I initally posted it, which now includes the following:

I prefer it not be seen at all than mangled by bad software, especially when the alternatives that work are all FREE.

Sheesh! I've heard of making a mountain out of a molehill, but THIS is RIDICULOUS!

If this guy would only explain what on the site is "incompatible" with certain browsers, then maybe we'd have some incentive. But NOOOOOOOO! He has to say stuff like "Safari sucks."

The one who should be civil about this is the one who wrote, "This is my website" [sic], but as it is, he's just being a jerk.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 1 13:28:09 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 1 12:49:20 2008.

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I did view the site on a different computer I have at work, and the site is worth the look, but again, I am not changing the browser on my laptop, I will just have to use the other computer if I want to see it.
The photos are pretty cool though....

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Mon Dec 1 13:29:40 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Thu Nov 27 12:26:04 2008.

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Nope! That's what I have on my laptop, and it won't work. I don't want to upgrade to IE7, as I am not thrilled with that, but have IE7 on a computer I have at work, and it did load with IE7. I am not changing from IE6 to IE7 on my laptop though, for my own reasons, and as cool as the photos are, it's the only site I ever had a problem viewing before.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 1 13:31:49 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 1 12:49:20 2008.

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Better yet, why doesn't he make a "mobile version" of his site? Something is better than nothing in this case.

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by dontwalkhand on Mon Dec 1 15:06:47 2008, in response to New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by JohnL on Wed Nov 26 12:04:17 2008.

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This is stupid, Can't use Safari on my mac, or an iphone, or even the work-issued BlackBerry. I am sorry, I don't support sites like that, and this webmaster is an arrogant Bigot (When it comes to browsers).

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 1 20:38:46 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by dontwalkhand on Mon Dec 1 15:06:47 2008.

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Pssst... < link >

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Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds

Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Dec 1 20:40:51 2008, in response to Re: New Pictures of the underwater Redbirds, posted by Hank Eisenstein on Mon Dec 1 12:20:57 2008.

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Never heard of Konquerer.

When in doubt, ask Wikipedia.

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