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MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 23 11:40:09 2008 edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I just got off of R46 6120 on the (R) and it was nicely renovated with the newly repainted stainless steel ends and door steps, black flooring and the entire set had a new door bell tone that was much higher pitched than the other 4 unrenovated cars in the front. The car also had a "brand new" smell to it, it's nice to see that they're finally fixing up the R46s.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by SUBWAYSURF* on Thu Oct 23 11:49:43 2008, in response to MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 23 11:40:09 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Ends of R46s are fibreglass, not stainless steel.
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Posted by joe c* on Thu Oct 23 11:52:49 2008, in response to MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 23 11:40:09 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d R46 going through SMS. til next time
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by 7 Local* on Thu Oct 23 12:13:25 2008, in response to MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 23 11:40:09 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They're just repainted end bonnets, replacing glass, adding mylar shields, and fixing any outstanding mechanical issues. Nothing too major being done. I think the same is going on with the R68's as well.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by North-Easten T/O* on Thu Oct 23 12:15:36 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7 Local on Thu Oct 23 12:13:25 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d There also getting new AC A/C units installed like the R68-A's.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Mitch45* on Thu Oct 23 12:29:34 2008, in response to MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 23 11:40:09 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I thought the R-46s were going to be reefed. Didn't they already go through a GOH?
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car* on Thu Oct 23 12:30:13 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Thu Oct 23 12:15:36 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The current ones run off of DC? So they are getting the AC inverters for the air compressors too?
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by North-Easten T/O* on Thu Oct 23 12:30:33 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Oct 23 12:30:13 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yes.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car* on Thu Oct 23 12:30:41 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by joe c on Thu Oct 23 11:52:49 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They should do that to the BUDDs as well.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by monorail* on Thu Oct 23 12:30:44 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 23 12:29:34 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d give it time, they will be reefed soon.....
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Gad2* on Thu Oct 23 16:14:59 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by monorail on Thu Oct 23 12:30:44 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I though I recalled someone saying that the 75ft cars would not be reefed because they do not have the asbestos issues that the 60ft cars have.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by 7th Avenue Express* on Thu Oct 23 18:16:52 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by Gad2 on Thu Oct 23 16:14:59 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d I think they can clean the asbestos off the trains before they reef them.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by 7th Avenue Express* on Thu Oct 23 18:19:43 2008, in response to MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Thu Oct 23 11:40:09 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yeah I got on an F train yesterday and I noticed the new floors and most of all, new windows with the plastic covering. That scratchitti and etching was such an eyesore. It's still around on the older trains such as the R32, 38, 40, 42 and 44 but they are gonna be gone soon so it doesn't matter. Although the R44 are getting new windows as well as the 68s
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Grand concourse* on Thu Oct 23 18:44:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Oct 23 18:16:52 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Would kinda defeat the purpose of reefing them wouldn't it? I mean if they cleaned off the asbestos then they could scrap the car for the metal.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Grand concourse* on Thu Oct 23 18:45:17 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Oct 23 18:19:43 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The scratched up windows are really bad on the R42's from ENY.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Grand concourse* on Thu Oct 23 18:45:56 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Oct 23 12:30:41 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Would be nice, but if the R160's are coming in at a fast rate then there's no point in doing so.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by 7th Avenue Express* on Thu Oct 23 19:40:38 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Oct 23 18:45:17 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Oh yeah, that's why I'm glad the R160s are over there now. Today makes 3 times in a row I got on an R160 on the J line.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by RonInBayside* on Thu Oct 23 19:48:45 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by Mitch45 on Thu Oct 23 12:29:34 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The 46s are probably good fot another 5-10 years.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by FutureKBArticOP* on Thu Oct 23 21:18:47 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by RonInBayside on Thu Oct 23 19:48:45 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d If they reinforce the floors like the cars in the 5650-5659 group
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by J trainloco* on Thu Oct 23 21:50:36 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Oct 23 12:30:41 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Every car class gets SMS. That's pretty much the definition. The R32's didn't always have those black floors you know.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car* on Thu Oct 23 21:51:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Oct 23 18:19:43 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d SHAME. FIX THE OLDER SMEES!!!
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by monorail* on Thu Oct 23 21:54:57 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Oct 23 18:44:28 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d but then the fish would have to make do without new reefs......
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by joe c* on Thu Oct 23 22:08:11 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Oct 23 12:30:41 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Yea,they're good cars. til next time
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by joe c* on Thu Oct 23 22:12:04 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu Oct 23 21:51:57 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d What good would that do?they gonna be retired anyway. til next time
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Grand concourse* on Thu Oct 23 23:12:10 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by monorail on Thu Oct 23 21:54:57 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d They'll have enough stuff to dump in the ocean: buses, war ships, etc.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Grand concourse* on Thu Oct 23 23:13:37 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Oct 23 19:40:38 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It's great for now, but I just hope they aren't too scratched up by the J riders.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by The Port of Authority* on Thu Oct 23 23:30:06 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Oct 23 18:16:52 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Apparently the benefits of simply reefing the cars outweigh the benefits of asbestos abatement and scrapping.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by North-Easten T/O* on Fri Oct 24 07:38:05 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by Grand concourse on Thu Oct 23 23:13:37 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d The Kids are already doing it, it's a dame shame.
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by monorail* on Fri Oct 24 07:45:28 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Oct 24 07:38:05 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d ' it's a dame shame.' better than a wench shame?
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by WillD* on Fri Oct 24 18:11:41 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by 7th Avenue Express on Thu Oct 23 18:16:52 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d It'd seem some asbestos is removed, while what remains is encapsulated in epoxy: How is asbestos typically dealt with in reef materials? The EPA recommends removing or encapsulating asbestos material that is exposed, disturbed and deteriorated on materials destined for artificial reefs. Encapsulation with epoxy or other non-water soluble and non-toxic sealer is recommended. What about the asbestos on the subway cars? Remaining asbestos material on the subway cars is encapsulated ( e.g., epoxy interior car coating ) and is not considered friable. The danger of asbestos with these (non-friable) types of materials appears to be from grinding, sanding or cutting ( i.e., resulting in release of fibers ). This type of activity is not expected prior to or subsequent to deployment on the reefs. How much will it cost for New Jersey to deploy subway cars as artificial reefs? All past and future subway cars received by New Jersey are free of any cost. http://njscuba.net/reefs/site_nj_brightliners.html
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Re: MTA Renovating R46s?
Posted by Grand concourse* on Fri Oct 24 20:05:22 2008, in response to Re: MTA Renovating R46s?, posted by North-Easten T/O on Fri Oct 24 07:38:05 2008.* edf40wrjww2msgDetail:detailStr fiogf49gjkf0d Truly is, they need to install those cameras on those cars or ban kids from the J and force them to ride the cheese buses to get home.
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