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NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008

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Hi all,

I work for NYC Transit and am responsible for updating the RTO portion of the TENS website. I found out that the subway pictures page is one of the most visited sites and on more than one occassion was asked to update the pictures more often.

To do that, I would like your help. I am asking for people to please send me pictures they have taken of the NYC subway system, so that I can post them on the NYCT TENS website. Of course, I would give you full credit for the pictures. Most of the employees enjoy vintage photos or unique photos of the subway.

You can send them to rfhom@hotmail.com

I would like to thank everyone for taking the time to read this posting.

Sincerely,

TSS

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by South FERRY on Wed Oct 8 13:42:29 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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I'm new. TENS stands for ???

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Oct 8 14:10:38 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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(I assume TENS is an employee intranet site, right?)

So let me understand this, and this is not directed at you personally.

The same agency that's been making it tough for we hobbyists to take pictures, even though it's legal, is now asking for us to provide it with pictures because "the subway pictures page [on TENS] is one of the most visited sites" ... and the same transit employees who are trained to "bang us in" because they are taught that picture taking is considered a suspicious activity also "enjoy vintage photos or unique photos of the subway"?

Does anyone else see the irony in this?

How about asking NYC Transit to be a little more understanding of we hobbyists who like to take pictures of trains first, and then ask the hobby groups for help?

--Mark

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by South FERRY on Wed Oct 8 14:38:20 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Oct 8 14:10:38 2008.

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And it'd also save him countless hours of HTML and JAVA if he were to just provide a compiled list of LINKS to the photographers' respective sites (rather than having us SUBMIT pictures) to a root wherein otherwise we're "not allowed to take" pictures.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 8 14:59:35 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by South FERRY on Wed Oct 8 13:42:29 2008.

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I'm new. TENS stands for ???

Transit Employee Network System

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 8 15:03:54 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Mark S. Feinman on Wed Oct 8 14:10:38 2008.

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The same agency that's been making it tough for we hobbyists to take pictures, even though it's legal...Does anyone else see the irony in this?

It's also the same agency that prohibits photography on all its bridges and tunnels.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by South FERRY on Wed Oct 8 15:23:46 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 8 15:03:54 2008.

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& ye want our pictures now-- yet when we're out taking some, they call and report us. (teh major OMGWTF!?)

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by David on Wed Oct 8 16:03:05 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 8 14:59:35 2008.

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"News Service," not "Network System."

David

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Wed Oct 8 17:19:00 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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Why do we have to send the photos via E mail? Why can't we just post them here? Like the guy that asked for R143 pics a few weeks ago...

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 8 17:31:03 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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Sorry TSS,
Your post sounds like an attempted entrapment by TA.

There has been cases where posters in here have been harrased for taking pics in the system. Now you're asking us for pictures that we've taken? Give us some assurances first.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by BMTLines on Wed Oct 8 18:13:00 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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Have your people call my people...

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by pd11604 on Wed Oct 8 18:28:49 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by RIPTA42HopeTunnel on Wed Oct 8 15:03:54 2008.

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HA HA gotcha

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 19:06:07 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by David on Wed Oct 8 16:03:05 2008.

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And if he really wanted to find a picture, he could look here. As it is, I'm a bit suspicious, and I'm not volunteering any more info beyond that.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Zman179 on Wed Oct 8 19:12:53 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 8 17:31:03 2008.

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Your post sounds like an attempted entrapment by TA.

I don't think so. I've seen a good number of train photos on the TENS site.


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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 8 19:44:59 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Zman179 on Wed Oct 8 19:12:53 2008.

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I've seen a good number of train photos on the TENS site.

How many taken from someone in here?

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by BMTLines on Wed Oct 8 19:52:16 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 19:06:07 2008.

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Lots of pics here too but he will have to ask permission from each photographer.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 8 20:10:10 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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So now when we're harrassed by TA personnel, we can say we're taking photos for TENS? I'm gonna. No, I'm not arguing, I'm "just sayin" :D

your pal,
Fred

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Oct 8 20:13:21 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by South FERRY on Wed Oct 8 13:42:29 2008.

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Transit Employees News Service

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Train Man Paul : Metro-North's Best Conductor FOR ALL 3 LINES!!! on Wed Oct 8 20:19:33 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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A member of management who does not know where to obtain pictures NYC Transit equipment both old and new????? WOW!!! I thought MTA monitors everything on the Net that pertains to its operations, equipment and infrastructure (i.e. railfan picture sites, message boards, blogs and the such). I guess that's all bark and no bite!! lol :-D



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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Zman179 on Wed Oct 8 20:27:28 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 8 19:44:59 2008.

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I've seen a few. I know they have a couple of Weinberg's photos in there (with credits).

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Oct 8 20:40:28 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by BMTLines on Wed Oct 8 19:52:16 2008.

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He could always just go after the ones released under Creative Commons (free use, but attribution required), like mines. [/end shameless plug]

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 8 20:48:20 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Zman179 on Wed Oct 8 20:27:28 2008.

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Then I'll wait until Weinberg says something about TSS asking for pictures.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by FLASH GORDON on Wed Oct 8 21:46:27 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 19:06:07 2008.

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All he has to do is go to Subway.org and they know who Dave is.
Don't sound right to me on this end.

FLASH GORDON

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by monorail on Wed Oct 8 22:09:49 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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TSS who????



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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Oct 9 02:34:23 2008, in response to NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by TSS on Wed Oct 8 13:20:02 2008.

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Based on personal experience, the boys at work like the older pictures most of all. Y'know, pictures from the 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. Nothing wakes up a dead crew room like a picture of a freshly delivered R-40 with blue stripe and huge roll sign. They don't care much for current pictures...they work it every day.

I personally like the page that has all the black and white photos of life in the olden days, though not necessarily transit related.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 9 03:02:30 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Oct 9 02:34:23 2008.

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Heh. Left this thread alone, because I know the "photogs" love rubbing the poor intern in charge of "da company paper" nose in it all ... but as someone who did the 70's with handles and keys, and TOOLS, one of the FEW things I enjoy in looking at photos here, and on Dave's place is OLDER stuff than the arnines, wherever they happen to be. Riding the old B&O on SIRT, Lo, Hi, and jalopy Vees on the AyeArTee (missed the MUDC's since I came along in 1950 myself) is the kind of photos *I* like myself ... SEEN all the rest, operated many. :)

I have enough "keepsake photos" to build BVE ... but like many others, I'm into the stuff they DIDN'T qualify me on for schoolcar ... but then again, having tried to operate gate cars in a museum, amd I *ever* grateful I never had to run "reversed stands" Q gate cars on the Myrt, nor do C division with them. Reversed stands are UNNATURAL, and having PERSONALLY operated 143's (which I *hated* with the windshield wiper on the side to operate, and COLD gray metal to lay your arm on whilst doing so) they're even MORE unnatural!

I'm an old Arnine/R32 guy (those are what I ran most on the D) it was hard enough remembering "THIS one is NOT a SMEE!" heh. But what came before I got "appointed" was even MORE a trip to check out, especially those RARE "undercar" and "truck differences and "maple with flag" between the axles variations, that I *still* enjoy "show me what I ain't SEEN! :)

You, and the rest of 100 are not alone in that. (grin)

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 08:03:15 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Oct 9 02:34:23 2008.

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Based on personal experience, the boys at work like the older pictures most of all. Y'know, pictures from the 50s, 60s, 70s, etc. Nothing wakes up a dead crew room like a picture of a freshly delivered R-40 with blue stripe and huge roll sign. They don't care much for current pictures...they work it every day.

Joking or being serious? For some reason i find that hard to belive...


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Re: Amtrak: 400 Trapped Inside 2 Passenger Trains Near Donner Pass

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 08:07:04 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Oct 9 03:02:30 2008.

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Unfortunately I wasn't taking many pictures back then. Any pictures I have from the 60's and 70's would be from my collection and not copyrights that I control. I do have pics from fantrips back in the 70's but they are all on slides (gasp! FILM - what's that!!!) that are now gathering dust in boxes. I keep saying that someday I will buy a proper scanner but I keep finding other things to do with the money...

As for my recent pics - I'm sure some might like them but most are not safe for work ;-) Although I do remember visiting Coney Island yard back in the mid 1970's - the tower was wallpapered in Playboy bunnies - how times have changed....

As for the photography issue - I guess it just goes to show how bitter and angry everyone is over the issue. It isn't just here - if you read some of the other photo sites and Flickr you will see how the relationship between authorities of all kinds (management, private security, TSA, police) and photographers has soured. The mistrust runs deep... Unless there are incidents that are not being reported here or on Flickr the photography situation in the subway seems to be improving. Still it will take many incident-free months and perhaps even years until the relationship begins to thaw again.

The situation is actually worse on the streets as private security guards seem to think it is their job to prevent photography of their buildings from public sidewalks (but I digress)... Many managements have misinterpreted the law that allows copyrights of architecture. They conveniently forget about the 17 USC 120(a) exemption for photography...

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 08:18:35 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak: 400 Trapped Inside 2 Passenger Trains Near Donner Pass, posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 08:07:04 2008.

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I have to watch my browser sometimes - I just noticed it changed the subject for no good reason :-(

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Oct 9 09:27:16 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Thu Oct 9 08:03:15 2008.

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No hes being serious seen it myself espiecally on the J Line quite a few RailFan T/O's and C/R's who are Senior personel on that Line..

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Re: Amtrak: 400 Trapped Inside 2 Passenger Trains Near Donner Pass

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Oct 9 11:16:01 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak: 400 Trapped Inside 2 Passenger Trains Near Donner Pass, posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 08:07:04 2008.

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Dude, is this your FAVORITE topic - not the first time! :)

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Oct 9 11:19:01 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 08:18:35 2008.

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Darn, and I have loads of cannibalism jokes perfectly appropriate for the changed subject.

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Re: Opera Browser cache

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 11:40:06 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak: 400 Trapped Inside 2 Passenger Trains Near Donner Pass, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Oct 9 11:16:01 2008.

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Seems to be caught in some cache - I thought I had cleared my cache... Trouble is I concentrate on proofreading my post that I fail to pay attention to the subject line.

It only happens if I use the back button to edit the post after hitting "preview".

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Re: Opera Browser cache

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Oct 9 11:42:19 2008, in response to Re: Opera Browser cache, posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 11:40:06 2008.

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It might be a cookie that stuck around. But I just think it's funny which topic it caught on to, so I point it out every time your computer gives me the chance. :)

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Re: Opera Browser cache

Posted by WillD on Thu Oct 9 11:50:11 2008, in response to Re: Opera Browser cache, posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 11:40:06 2008.

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What version of Opera are you running? I've used most versions up to 9.26 without encountering that problem in thread title changes.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Oct 9 12:24:40 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Thu Oct 9 11:19:01 2008.

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It's not the first time…

And here's the thread that's at the root of the problem.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 9 20:01:50 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by daDouce Man on Wed Oct 8 20:48:20 2008.

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I can't believe you are asking for Weinberg. All Weinberg would say is that "you are a FUCKING MORON, daDouce Man."

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Oct 9 20:03:01 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Zman179 on Wed Oct 8 20:27:28 2008.

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Unless I'm forgetting something, not with my permission they don't.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Oct 9 20:08:27 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 9 20:01:50 2008.

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So what do you have to say about TSS asking us for pictures taken in the subway?

BTW, Zman179 first mentioned your name.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by straphanger9 on Thu Oct 9 20:45:08 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Railman718 on Thu Oct 9 09:27:16 2008.

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...including you and NETO? :)

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Oct 9 21:14:33 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by straphanger9 on Thu Oct 9 20:45:08 2008.

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...including you and NETO? :)

Definately Me and NorthEasten...

;o)


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Re: Opera Browser cache

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 21:18:42 2008, in response to Re: Opera Browser cache, posted by WillD on Thu Oct 9 11:50:11 2008.

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Version 9.52.

I found the problem - it was in the "Wand Manager". Apparently I must've hit "save password" when I posted something in that thread and under certain circumstances Opera changes the subject if I accidentally click on the magic wand before posting.

Deleted the saved password - I will see if that helps :-)

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Re: Opera Browser cache

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Oct 9 22:42:40 2008, in response to Re: Opera Browser cache, posted by BMTLines on Thu Oct 9 21:18:42 2008.

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Opera saves the subject line as it if was a password. I haven't had that problem in a few months now. I'm on 9.60 beta.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Oct 10 06:44:12 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 9 20:01:50 2008.

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UNWARRANTED PERSONAL ATTACK

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Oct 10 07:31:54 2008, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by BMTLines on Wed Oct 8 18:13:00 2008.

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I'll make a phone call...

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Gold_12th on Tue Nov 9 09:28:38 2010, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Tony Clifton on Thu Oct 9 20:03:01 2008.

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Tony and Brian...

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 9 09:35:47 2010, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by AMoreira81 on Wed Oct 8 19:06:07 2008.

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TENS is legitimate. But he should be using his NYCT address not his hotmail address so everyone knows that he is.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 9 09:39:15 2010, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by South FERRY on Wed Oct 8 14:38:20 2008.

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Employees may not be able to access the links because the MTA doesn't want its employees to spend hours looking at pictures of trains when they should be working. This is meant more like a picture of the day type thing.

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by BrooklynBus on Tue Nov 9 09:42:06 2010, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Oct 9 20:01:50 2008.

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Shame shame. Is that how they teach you to speak in Hebrew School?

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Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted

Posted by Fred G on Tue Nov 9 09:57:53 2010, in response to Re: NYC Transit TENS website- pictures wanted, posted by Fred G on Wed Oct 8 20:10:10 2008.

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IAWTP

your pal,
Fred

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