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Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to "Meet Demand" |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 15:10:33 2008 Oh . . . only deciding that Gunn's idea was a good one now, Alex?The AE is still not the "fastest passenger train". The Metroliner Service still has it beat in terms of average speed . . . I don't like the bit about levying surcharges. If you're going to do that, then start making a trust fund for Amtrak . . . Bloomberg via Boston Globe
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 15:17:14 2008, in response to Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to "Meet Demand", posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 15:10:33 2008. So the BUDD metroliners gave shorter trip times?Also, with the 403 million in revenue, I assume Acela is a profitable service. And as always, BS and shortsight on Amtrak's part, corruption. But that is to be expected from a transit agency, I guess. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Deaks on Wed Aug 27 15:27:38 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 15:17:14 2008. BS, or maybe just that no-one would have expected car and plane fuel to be at the $$$ level it is at the moment?Virgin in Britain will soon lengthen their train sets to 11 cars. I have read it will be a tricky operation as various equipment is spread throughout the current 9 cars. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by JohnL on Wed Aug 27 15:48:12 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Deaks on Wed Aug 27 15:27:38 2008. Virgin in Britain will soon lengthen their train sets to 11 cars. I have read it will be a tricky operation as various equipment is spread throughout the current 9 cars.Interesting. Any more details, Tim? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 15:54:56 2008, in response to Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to "Meet Demand", posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 15:10:33 2008. Just which train does New York and Washington in 2 hours, 28 minutes? A quick peek at the current timetable and I see 2h45 is the fastest. Or has Newark become part of New York?Besides which section is capable of 150 mph between WAS ands NYP? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 15:57:00 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 15:54:56 2008. Who said "current"? I didn't say "current", and the article didn't either. So I mentioned "all-time" due to their omission. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 16:00:55 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 15:17:14 2008. Althought Amtrak's desire to expand Acela service is a good thing, I think Amtrak ought to think about expanding its long distance service to major cities like Chicago, Cincinatti, New Orleans etc. The trains going to those cities often operate at inconvenient times and often have unduly long waiting times between connecting services. Some cities that could use rail service lioke Nashville dont have any rail service at all at the present time and with many airlines now threatening to eliminate non stop flights, it is a good time for Amtrak to seriously consider tapping what would seem to be a growing passenger market. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 16:10:38 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 15:57:00 2008. Amtrak started Acela service in December 2000. Each train consists of two locomotives and six passenger cars, and can make the trip between New York and Washington in 2 hours, 28 minutes."can make" doesn't mean it does. I see. And it doesn't specifically say that 150 mph is done between NYP and WAS. The article is written in a way to mislead readers. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 16:13:58 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 15:17:14 2008. The Metroliners MUs did 2h29 in 1969 but that was soon changed to 3h.The Metroliners (AEM7+Amfleet) did 2h30 in 1991 for six months. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 16:35:25 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 16:00:55 2008. True, but all they concentrate on is their beloved little "super railroad" NEC... Everything else seems to get dicked. Probably because most of their interests ride those Acelas... |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 16:41:54 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 16:35:25 2008. What we really need are nationwide Acelas! |
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Posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 16:57:38 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 16:35:25 2008. You should take care of your most profitable operation. "the super railroad" handle alot of amtrak business. I wish we had some new motors to replace the older non remaned AEM 7's. Keep hearing about these 20 ALP 46's we are supposed to get according to several road foreman and management, but no one is sure when. We need coaches on some of the regional trains also. Probly need to add a train or two to Richmond and newport news. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Michael Wares on Wed Aug 27 16:57:41 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 16:13:58 2008. I rode the Metroliner 2:29 service in the summer of 1969. It ran nonstop, and was a very rough ride. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:12:10 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 15:54:56 2008. Best i was able to make in was 2 hours and 35 min could have been less got caught behind a transit train from Allied to A. The congestion getting in and out of NYC hurts all trains Transits and our. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 17:26:05 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 16:57:38 2008. What is wrong with the AEM-7s?And I thought NJT was ordering more ALP 46s..Is it some sort of joint order? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by R33/R36 Mainline on Wed Aug 27 17:35:17 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 16:57:38 2008. When you mean non remaned AEM7's, your talking about units that didn't get GOH'ed right? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by R33/R36 Mainline on Wed Aug 27 17:37:36 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 16:41:54 2008. I think amtrak should put the turboliners back in serivce for routes outside the NEC. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Aug 27 17:40:16 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 16:41:54 2008. Or how about some high speed rail that will actually do something, capable of more than 200mph. If China can do it, why can't we? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:46:40 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by R33/R36 Mainline on Wed Aug 27 17:35:17 2008. GOH'???? The DC AEM 7's that are ready 4 the scrap yard. The other's were remanufactered. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 27 17:53:50 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by WillD on Wed Aug 27 17:40:16 2008. If China can do it, why can't we?Well, there is that little thing called "Property Rights". |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:55:20 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 17:26:05 2008. Yeah we are supposed to be piggybacking on their order for a better price. unlike transits older alp's 46's the new ones will be geared for 125mph and self lapping brakes.The AEM 7DC Motors are on their last legs especially the DC ones all these years of hard pounding are killing them and they don't run well in the summer months excessive heat. we all are in agreement that they won't survive another summer without major work. The reman AC AEM 7'S are ok for now |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 18:09:50 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:12:10 2008. How many stops did you make? (Not the congestion but scheduled station stops) |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Aug 27 18:32:33 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 27 17:53:50 2008. And environmental laws.. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 18:47:25 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:55:20 2008. Why not remanufacture them? They are only 25 or so years old... young for a railroad locomotive...Self lapping brakes? what for? Another thing that can fail... |
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Posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 27 18:47:48 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 27 17:53:50 2008. Well, there is that little thing called "Property Rights".We could always, gasp, buy the property from their owners at slightly above fair market value. I mean, that's how we built those magical strips of concrete and asphalt, and high speed rail ROW isn't that wide... |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Chicagopcclcars on Wed Aug 27 19:11:34 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 18:47:25 2008. view flatRe: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 18:47:25 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:55:20 2008. Why not remanufacture them? They are only 25 or so years old... young for a railroad locomotive... Self lapping brakes? what for? Another thing that can fail.. SHUT THE FUCK UP YOUO COWARD. Why is it everrything you don't understand is BAD IN YOUR ASSHOLE EYESIGHT? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 19:19:34 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Chicagopcclcars on Wed Aug 27 19:11:34 2008. WOW!Your response is out of place. Why is it so violent? It seems I make you angry, why? I suggest you ignore me then, as others have suggested. And I can't see why you said what you did, because I know the AEM-7s are less than 30 years old... Railroads generally have non-self lapping brakes, and there is no problem that self lapping brakes fix. Except maybe fill the pockets of managers a bit more. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Chicagopcclcars on Wed Aug 27 19:30:34 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 19:19:34 2008. I model the Amtrak NEC, Acela Express, AEM7...have you ever done or studied anything about them??? NO!!WOW! Your response is out of place. Why is it so violent? It seems I make you angry, why? I suggest you ignore me then, as others have suggested. And I can't see why you said what you did, because I know the AEM-7s are less than 30 years old... Railroads generally have non-self lapping brakes, and there is no problem that self lapping brakes fix. Except maybe fill the pockets of managers a bit more. What does 30 years have to do with it. How many 30 year old transit cars are still running? 30 year old automobiles, 30 year old airliners. People on this board have told you over and over and you refuse to listen. AEM-7s have been hammering NEC tracks at up to 125 miles per and that takes its toll. If you want old...go to work in a museum and see how difficult it is. Do some work before you start running your mouth. Ignore you...I'm going to be on your back. Sleep with one eye open. And don't say someone is stealing unless you have proof. You barely have a high school education. Read a railroad crossbuck. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Aug 27 19:39:31 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 18:47:25 2008. The AEM7AC rebuild turned out a decent product, but was a logistical nightmare from everything I've heard. Amtrak would pull a unit from service, get it torn apart in Bear, DE, and Alstom would take weeks getting them the parts to rebuild it. During that it was unavailable for service, and this was right as the HHP-8s were dying with extreme regularity, so Amtrak was scraping the bottom of the barrel for electric locomotive duties. By the time Alstom finally got spun up for the project and was hitting target dates with regularity Amtrak was over budget and behind schedule and could not pursue the conversion of the second set of AEM7s. Considering the age of the locomotives and the higher cost to restart the conversion of a smaller group of locomotives with a different manufacturer (AFAIK ABB, Siemens, and Bombardier all expressed some interest) Amtrak likely found it cheaper to simply replace the unrebuilt AEM7s with new ALP46A based locomotives. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 19:50:16 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by WillD on Wed Aug 27 19:39:31 2008. I see, thansk, but there must be something very screwy going on if a rebuild is more expensive than a new unit...If anything, rebuild it with regular DC components that it has...theoretically, it should last another 25 years...at that time, the ALPs will most likely be getting a rebuild, or maybe they will begetting scrapped, since no agencies seem to do rebuilds these days... :( |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 27 20:18:04 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 27 18:47:48 2008. We could always, gasp, buy the property from their owners at slightly above fair market value. I mean, that's how we built those magical strips of concrete and asphalt, and high speed rail ROW isn't that wide...Indeed we could, but recall that the Interstate Highways were built before the property around them had much value. The land is much more expensive today -- due in no small part to the construction of those highways. There is cheap land out there, but for the most part it isn't where HSR would be most effective. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Aug 27 20:48:58 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by AEM-7AC #901 on Wed Aug 27 18:47:48 2008. Quite true, but even assuming that condemnation is politically viable - in the current political climate in most areas, it is in many cases not - it's an expensive proposition. Eminent domain eliminates the worry of holdouts, but it does nothing to bring prices below 'just compensation'. (Yes, the state can try to undercut that guarantee, but it's (1) unlawful, and (2) can only be used against property owners not well off enough to afford legal representation that if successful will exact greater compensation than is warranted).The alternative then becomes tunneling, probably via TBM, and we can't seem to get a fraction of a single piddling line under 2nd Av done, so it's unlikely that feat would be any easier over hundreds of miles. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:55:04 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 16:10:38 2008. Oh, absolutely. It's open to make fun of.Not to mention that 2' 28" is an average speed of 91.2 mph. You can achieve that with trains that have a top speed of 125 mph. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:56:18 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 17:12:10 2008. Well maybe NJT shouldn't have started taking all sorts of trains out of HOB to jam them into NYP, which the PRR didn't build to take all those trains. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed Aug 27 22:05:01 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:56:18 2008. We need another great east-west station in New York, or for NYP to be expanded. Since the latter would present great problems, the former is the hope. |
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Acela schedule (Re: Amtrak may ...) |
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Posted by timz2 on Wed Aug 27 23:13:58 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Olog-hai on Wed Aug 27 21:55:04 2008. Somebody claimed Acela was scheduled 2-28 NY-Wash for a short time, but I don't think anybody has found a timetable showing that, even for a nonstop. Offhand I'm guessing the three-stop trains have never been scheduled in less than 2-39, and probably the punctuality on that schedule didn't encourage anyone. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by WillD on Wed Aug 27 23:31:14 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Charles G on Wed Aug 27 20:18:04 2008. Indeed we could, but recall that the Interstate Highways were built before the property around them had much value. The land is much more expensive today -- due in no small part to the construction of those highways.In the Northeast there are at least a few right of ways which could be used to minimize impact and reduce land acquisition costs. There is cheap land out there, but for the most part it isn't where HSR would be most effective. Not true at all. Land costs in California's Central Valley are extremely low when compared with those in the suburbs surrounding the cities. That segment would comprise the most critial high speed trunk portion of a California High Speed Rail system. The same is true of much of the land between Pittsburgh and Chicago, between Dallas, San Antonio, and Houston, and perhaps even from Chicago to Denver. High speed rail is in general hurt by high density outside of the anchor cities. What's the point of doing 200mph past a bunch of homes that could have provided paying passengers? |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Aug 28 00:01:04 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 15:54:56 2008. The super express, when it operates. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Aug 28 00:04:16 2008, in response to Acela schedule (Re: Amtrak may ...), posted by timz2 on Wed Aug 27 23:13:58 2008. It did run in mid-2001. They had a NYP to WAS non stop train, one train each way weekdays. The train didn't have enough ridership, so they added a stop at Philly. The non stop was 2:28, the stop in Philly made it 2:30. Even that didn't get enough ridership, and it was discontinued until its latest reincarnation. I'm not sure that is still running though. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by 5119 on Thu Aug 28 00:32:00 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by randyo on Wed Aug 27 16:41:54 2008. I agree with randyo. A nationwide system of Acelas would do much to enhance traveling in he USA |
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Posted by timz2 on Thu Aug 28 00:59:22 2008, in response to Re: Acela schedule (Re: Amtrak may ...), posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Thu Aug 28 00:04:16 2008. In 12/2000 Acela had one round trip a day, scheduled 2-43 with six stops (including Trenton). Next timetable I have is the 4/2001 which shows the 2-30 one-stops; next is the 7/2001 which has nothing faster than 2-39 with four stops. Anybody seen a public timetable in that gap? Guess I gotta keep an eye on eBay for the GOs... |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by hhp664 on Thu Aug 28 01:00:33 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Chicagopcclcars on Wed Aug 27 19:30:34 2008. It is time to get rid of the oldest AEM 7Dc motors. they are 30 years old and are increasingly showing there age. Trust me i enjoy running them but every time i see a DC motor on my train i know i am going to have problems. It ain't the mechanical departments fault i mean there are only so many times you can repair and replace and rebuild parts. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by hhp664 on Thu Aug 28 01:03:45 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Wed Aug 27 19:50:16 2008. Rebuild with DC parts??????? THATS CRAZY. AC traction is better. i have run freight units and preferred AC power and the same is with the electric motors. The AC remans are good units but even they are showing there age from the punishment we put on them every day.ps WHY REBUILD ANYWAY BUY NEW. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by hhp664 on Thu Aug 28 01:07:11 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Wado MP73 on Wed Aug 27 18:09:50 2008. jUST A WEEKDAY ACELA. You can run the hell out of the ones that don't stop at metropark. On weekedays you either make BWI or metropark and on weekends you do both. N jersey congestion is a big problem |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by ChicagoPCCLCars on Thu Aug 28 01:17:33 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Thu Aug 28 01:03:45 2008. Because he wants nothing new...he thinks nothing new can be good. Don't fret him, he's just outta high school. |
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Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'' |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 04:50:38 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by 5119 on Thu Aug 28 00:32:00 2008. A nationwide system of Acelas would do much to enhance traveling in (t)he USAWhat stations would you stop them at? The Amtrak stations in Chicago, LA, Oakland, Miami, Pittsburgh, Indianapolis, Dallas, Denver and the rest of 'em all have low platforms, which the Acela can't use unless it's retrofitted with proper steps and trapdoors. Also, what average speed are you gonna run them at? The fastest average speed the AE runs at right now is 82 mph, which would get you from New York to Chicago along the Broadway Limited's route in about 11 hours. Planning to run them faster than that, I hope? Lots of actual 150-mph running? (Remember, these aren't designed for your "dedicated HSR corridor" running. The top speed is 169 mph, in tests.) |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 04:53:16 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Wed Aug 27 16:57:38 2008. Keep hearing about these 20 ALP 46's we are supposed to get according to several road foreman and management, but no one is sure whenI got a feeling that it's gonna be the NJT ones, the ALP-46A that they're gonna certify for 125 mph. NJT ain't extending their electrification, so it's senseless for them to keep these. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu Aug 28 04:55:39 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by hhp664 on Thu Aug 28 01:03:45 2008. He wants the GG1s to be still around. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Aug 28 06:06:11 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by trainsarefun on Wed Aug 27 22:05:01 2008. We need another great east-west station in New York, or for NYP to be expanded. Since the latter would present great problems, the former is the hope.Or to provide a proper urban service in urban New Jersey, and leave NJT with running trains serving sub-rural middle-of-nowhere locations. |
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Posted by Kew Gardens Teleport on Thu Aug 28 06:11:44 2008, in response to Re: Amtrak may Lengthen Acela Express Trainsets to ''Meet Demand'', posted by Deaks on Wed Aug 27 15:27:38 2008. Virgin in Britain will soon lengthen their train sets to 11 cars.Finally! Hopefully the two extra carriages will be second class -- the first class is lovely, but has never been priced at a level where they could fill it on any train I've been on (although I admit that I tend to end up on a very specific handful of trains). |
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