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R160's A/C sucks! |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008 Today i was riding an POS R160 on the Q line and the A/C sucks. Not to mention the car smelled like piss. When i walked inside the train didn't feel no cold air. And as the train was going along NO air was coming out the vents. Also 160's rock and sway side to side when going to down the brighton line, smoother ride my ass. Also 160's trucks do bump into the car bodies at times. Every 160 Q train that i ride has something wrong with it, if its not the FIND being stuck its the A/C is not working right. Also 160s are starting to squeal and screech when coming to a stop. These cars are not worth two cents of that 2.2 million each that they spend on buying them. The R68A's are much better than these 160 crappers. At least with the 68A's you can feel air coming out, with the 160's you can't feel shit. |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon Aug 4 10:35:39 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. I had exactly the opposite experience, I was on a 160 last Thursday & it was ice cold, great ride, even though I would still rather ride a D-Type. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Aug 4 10:38:13 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. Well, it *was* 65° outside this morning, so I would have thought that the train would feel warmer when you stepped into it.And I wouldn't want to go about feeling shit either, piss is bad enough. ROARING |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:47:48 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Mr. D - Type on Mon Aug 4 10:35:39 2008. Are we talking about the same train here? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 4 10:48:45 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. When i walked inside the train didn't feel no cold air.How could the train feel anything? |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:50:38 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Spider-Pig on Mon Aug 4 10:48:45 2008. Typo i didn't feel cold air. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Mon Aug 4 13:29:01 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Aug 4 10:38:13 2008. Well, it *was* 65° outside this morning, so I would have thought that the train would feel warmer when you stepped into it.In the good old days you could open the windows and feel some of that coolness INSIDE the train |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Mon Aug 4 14:04:31 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:47:48 2008. Same train, apparently not.Same type of train, apparently so. |
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Posted by kyk7 on Mon Aug 4 16:14:43 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. Oh no, the A/C didn't meet your expectations on the one car that you rode on for one instance. I guess that means the entire fleet is garbage. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Aug 4 16:31:17 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. Probably just a tripped Circuit Breaker. Reset it in the panel on the end of the car, right where the seat is. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 16:38:55 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by kyk7 on Mon Aug 4 16:14:43 2008. Uh, this A/C issue with the 160's has happen to me more than once. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Aug 4 17:25:31 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Aug 4 16:31:17 2008. You want the angry passenger to reset the circuit breaker? |
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Posted by error46146 on Mon Aug 4 17:30:03 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. the R160 was too rushed and now their having problems all over the placethey should have tested it some more before giving kawasaki the contract |
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Posted by David on Mon Aug 4 17:34:34 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by error46146 on Mon Aug 4 17:30:03 2008. Huh? There were no R-160s before NYCT gave Kawasaki (and Alstom) the contract! What would there have been to test?Besides, the R-160 is supposed to be identical (or nearly so) to the R-143, which WAS built by Kawasaki. So if there WAS a test, that was it! David |
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Posted by monorail on Mon Aug 4 18:43:30 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Aug 4 17:25:31 2008. he'll make a great supervisor! |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Aug 4 19:33:59 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. The piss smell can happen anywhere, not the fault of the R-160. The ride isn't any worse than the R-68A's, but the whole "air-bag suspension" stuff might be overrated. Occasionally HVAC's don't work right and you get hot cars. In this case, move to another car at the next station, or if nobody's looking pass through. The FINDs have definitely been a problem on the R-160Bs and I've noticed most I've seen have been frozen or on the wrong stop. But you're wrong about the A/C's, they're usually quite cool and you can feel the air coming out. They do screech and sometimes loudly when stopping, but I don't think it's a big deal. Some of the R-32s do a lot more screeching. |
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Posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 19:53:29 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Aug 4 19:33:59 2008. The ride is WORSE than the R68A. R68A's don't have annoying populsion sounds or loud annoying HAVC noise. 68A's have a more laid back calm feel to them, wheres the 160's have an loud in your face feel to them. And MOST 160's that i ride on the Q so far have this A/C problem, if i try to move to another car it will probaly be just the same.And screehing on the 160's is a big deal, people make a big deal when the 32's break screech, so why can't i make a big deal about 160 brakes screeching???? |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Aug 4 20:17:18 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 19:53:29 2008. You may be right to some extent, but the HVAC isn't loud when you're inside and definitely an improvement from the R-142s. You don't know if the A/C will be the same in the next car or even two or three cars down unless you try. Generally, I've found the R-160s A/Cs to be cool and comfortable, and I think this case was an exception.The screeching IS NOT a big deal with the R-160s nor the R-32s. All of you are wrong and should stop complaining. :P But seriously, maybe you're going into the R-160s hating them from the start, so you pick out everything in it to bother you in some way. At the same time you could go into an R-32, or a few years ago an R-33 and R-36 Mainline and ignore all signs of rust or w/e else. I don't want to sound like you-know-who on here, but try riding an R-160 with a positive attitude. Otherwise you might as well join Phil D, because this is starting to remind me of some of the stuff he came up with. |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Mon Aug 4 20:24:03 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Aug 4 20:17:18 2008. There is no reasoning with the NTT haters man...PS internet has been iffy this week (and will continue to be), so shoot me an email when you get a chance |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Aug 4 20:30:55 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by straphanger9 on Mon Aug 4 20:24:03 2008. Yeah, I shouldn't get started on that stuff, like explaining the Lo'Vs issues to K-car. Heh. I'll send. |
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Posted by straphanger9 on Mon Aug 4 20:38:24 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Broadway Buffer on Mon Aug 4 20:30:55 2008. Ha...nice. Got it |
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Posted by Amanda on Mon Aug 4 20:40:09 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. I certainly miss the ice-cold R40s on the Broadway line. They were a welcome relief after standing in the Herald Square Sauna. As an extra bonus, the R40 A/Cs peed on you.Just goes to show that not everything in the R160 works at the same time. I've not been proven wrong yet! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Mon Aug 4 23:40:57 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by G1Ravage on Mon Aug 4 17:25:31 2008. LOL! That would be fun! :) |
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Posted by joe c on Tue Aug 5 01:07:24 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. The R32's do alot more screeching then the R160's.and as for the A/C's,try going to another car.the A/C on those cars are nice.til next time |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Tue Aug 5 01:30:30 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. I just got off 9022 on the (N) last night and my experience was the exact opposite of yours. The train was nice and cold, had that "brand new" smell to it, and gave a smooth ride from 34th St all the way down to 59th/4th. Although, OTOH, the FIND was stuck on the (W)'s Northbound routing starting at Whitehall St.I also happened to ride an R32 on the (E) in the morning and it was ok as it got me from Point A to Point B but the A/C was dismal, it was loud as expected, it screeched the moment the brakes were applied, and most of the lights were out on the train car, but it was ok though as it got me where I needed to go. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Aug 5 01:43:33 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by David on Mon Aug 4 17:34:34 2008. yup. |
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Posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Aug 5 19:03:52 2008, in response to R160's A/C sucks!, posted by R33/R36 mainline on Mon Aug 4 10:33:13 2008. *sighhere we go again |
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Posted by (5) Bronx Exp on Tue Aug 5 20:15:08 2008, in response to Re: R160's A/C sucks!, posted by Pablo M 201 on Tue Aug 5 19:03:52 2008. Ugh....now I think you over did it...however its just a train; not ment for luxary, thats why we all have houses & apartments, even in houses a/c are considered a luxary. Just be happy the train even came.... |
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