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Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:23:44 2008

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My brother lives next to the Farmingdale Station and every time we go to his house I take the kids to the station whenever a train is scheduled to come in to watch. Although I've been there a number of times I just noticed something strange about it today:
Does anyone know why the ticket office and waiting room is on the Eastbound Ronkonkoma bound platform instead of the Westbound platform? It doesn't make any sense. (As if anything about the LIRR makes sense) I'm sure there are more than 10 times the amount of passengers going west than east. I know there's a cross under there but it still doesn't make sense.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 4 22:34:50 2008, in response to Farmingdale Station question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:23:44 2008.

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Oddly, that is true for many LIRR stations....Sayville, Oakdale, and many others have that same thing. It may date to when the lines were single tracked, with a siding, but that's just a guess.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:42:08 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 4 22:34:50 2008.

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That makes sense. I wonder if Farmingdale was single tracked when the ticket office was built. Also, it wasn't too long ago when the station had low platforms and no third rail. Possibly there was a pedestrian grade crossing by the ticket office. Anyone out there remember if there was?

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Jul 4 22:55:58 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:42:08 2008.

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The ticket office is old - one of the oldest in the system. It dates from about 1880's, I think - maybe earlier. It was indeed single tracked untill 1917. Third rail and high plat came in 1985. The cross under was there from as far as I go back which is 1963. Commuted from there to NP from 1972 to 1980 every day. Been back many times sporadically since.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 4 22:56:53 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:42:08 2008.

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That's a very old station building. I believe it dates to the 1880's. I am sure it was a single track with a siding originally. Also, the pedestrian walkways were right in front of the station buildings too. Until 1998, Oakdale and Sayville (which also have this odd fact) had the walkways right in front of the station building where you crossed the tracks, as did all the other stations with low platforms.
The answer is probably a combination of both....

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 4 22:59:03 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Jul 4 22:55:58 2008.

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Yes, it does date to the 1880's. Farmingdale's station building is identical to the original Patchogue station building (that was foolishly destroyed in 1963). The only difference with Farmingdale is they built that sunstation in the 1920's onto it. That's that square thing.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Jul 4 23:01:07 2008, in response to Farmingdale Station question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:23:44 2008.

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...And I think most RR history buffs know that the upper floor of the station was a power substation for a trolly line that ran from Huntington, down Rt 110, turned onto Conklin St. and went up to the station. Next time you're there take a close look at the upper story of the building.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 5 09:47:46 2008, in response to Farmingdale Station question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:23:44 2008.

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My brother lives next to the Farmingdale Station and every time we go to his house I take the kids to the station whenever a train is scheduled to come in to watch.

Your brother lives near me. Stop by and say hello.

Bill "Newkirk"

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 5 09:59:02 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 5 09:47:46 2008.

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You don't live near Newkirk Plaza?

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Jul 5 10:30:19 2008, in response to Farmingdale Station question, posted by Jeff Rosen on Fri Jul 4 22:23:44 2008.

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IIRC... LIRR had most of their stations on the south side of the tracks.

Anyway, It may still make some sense now. People can buy tomorrow's ticket today, and then not be caught in a line when the train comes.

Most people, of course, do not buy tickets at that machine, they have monthly tickets mailed to their homes.

ROAR

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 5 10:35:57 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 5 09:59:02 2008.

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You don't live near Newkirk Plaza?

Not since June 1972.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 5 11:20:33 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Jul 5 10:35:57 2008.

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Did you move straight to the Island? I left Brooklyn February 1972 for the Island.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 11:34:19 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 4 22:34:50 2008.

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Also, many trains "wrong rail" thru Farmingdale, using the eastbound platform for westbound service. You see that a lot at Central Islip, where the parking lot and ticket office is on the south side of the ROW. You also see it a lot at Stony Brook and other PJ stations.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jul 5 12:09:30 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 11:34:19 2008.

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Smithtown is a good example of that. IIRC, the northern platform is designated for eastbound trains and the southern platform is designated for westbound trains for some reason although most trains use the southern platform in both directions anyways.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Jul 5 13:16:42 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Fri Jul 4 22:34:50 2008.

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I think that's correct. My track maps show that even as late as 1916, there was only a single main track. There was a passing siding located where the westbound track now is.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Jul 5 13:22:23 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Bob Andersen on Sat Jul 5 13:16:42 2008.

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What about the "yard" east of the station? Is it new or old?

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 00:15:41 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 5 11:20:33 2008.

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I hope I never leave NYC for the island. Unless I get a really hot deal on a house near the LIRR.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 6 10:28:45 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jul 6 00:15:41 2008.

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I didn't want to leave Brooklyn, but I couldn't afford to stay.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Jul 6 11:54:39 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jul 5 12:09:30 2008.

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Same at Stony Brook. There's signage there noting the 3 or 4 trains a day which use that platform, usually reverse-peak, like the 18:51 to Huntington.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 6 12:19:04 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Fulton Frank on Fri Jul 4 22:55:58 2008.

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The upper level of that station was used as a station for a trolley line that ran north-south across the LIRR main Line.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 6 17:51:58 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by SLRT on Sun Jul 6 10:28:45 2008.

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That's a good reason to leave.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Sun Jul 6 19:32:15 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Jul 5 12:09:30 2008.

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I believe the majority of trains "wrong rail" (which is correct rail for that statiin, but you know what I mean) through Smithtown.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jul 7 09:52:15 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by SLRT on Sat Jul 5 11:20:33 2008.

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Did you move straight to the Island? I left Brooklyn February 1972 for the Island.

Yes.

Bill "Newkirk"


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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jul 7 09:54:45 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 6 12:19:04 2008.

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Interesting. When was the trolley dismantled?

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jul 7 10:33:03 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jul 6 12:19:04 2008.

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The upper level of that station was used as a station for a trolley line that ran north-south across the LIRR main Line.

You mean that boxy bricked house on top of the station building ? A retired LIRR friend of mine told me that housed the original 600 volt apparatus for the trolley line. He said the apparatus is still there. Not sure if has been removed since. The cone shaped insulators are still in place on the north side wall.

The trolley, from Amityville, had tracks where the north side parking lot is today. The line ran to Huntington if I'm not mistake.


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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 7 11:22:38 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jul 7 10:33:03 2008.

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The trolley, from Amityville, had tracks where the north side parking lot is today. The line ran to Huntington if I'm not mistake.

That would be very useful today, it's not really possible to travel north/south on LI using the LIRR.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 7 11:44:12 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Mon Jul 7 11:22:38 2008.

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The Huntington-Amityville route would be very useful too, running near something like the alignment of today's Rt 110.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jul 7 12:39:16 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 7 11:44:12 2008.

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Agreed with both you and Chris on this one.

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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by Newkirk Images on Mon Jul 7 20:28:04 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by trainsarefun on Mon Jul 7 11:44:12 2008.

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The Huntington-Amityville route would be very useful too, running near something like the alignment of today's Rt 110.

I believe that trolley route paralleled Rte. 110. Probably was a dirt road back then.

Bill "Newkirk"



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Re: Farmingdale Station question

Posted by SLRT on Mon Jul 7 20:38:49 2008, in response to Re: Farmingdale Station question, posted by Spider-Pig on Sun Jul 6 17:51:58 2008.

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i thought so.

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