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Posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 4 06:21:51 2008, in response to Photo...140, posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008.

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Wonderful Pic and Happy 4th of July!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 4 11:15:35 2008, in response to Photo...140, posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008.

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Have you ever thought of making a Street Car Calendar? You have some really GREAT photos. PS: June only *has* 30 days!

ROARING

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by monorail on Fri Jul 4 11:17:20 2008, in response to Photo...140, posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008.

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got that neighborhood feel!
very nice shot!!!

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 13:20:19 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by Fred G on Fri Jul 4 06:21:51 2008.

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Thank you same to you

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 13:25:14 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Jul 4 11:15:35 2008.

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Thank you so much. I like the fact that the NYC Subway Calendar has 367 days this year. More days to enjoy the great pictures. BTW I have 3 of my photos in this year's MSR calendar, and I will have 3 more in the 2009 calendar. MSR Calendar

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 13:25:34 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by monorail on Fri Jul 4 11:17:20 2008.

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Thanks.

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by BMTLines on Fri Jul 4 13:35:00 2008, in response to Photo...140, posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008.

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As usual - another great picture!!!! Happy 4th!

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by R PansePCC on Sat Jul 5 08:54:00 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by BMTLines on Fri Jul 4 13:35:00 2008.

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Thank you

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by Fulton Frank on Sat Jul 5 09:48:41 2008, in response to Photo...140, posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008.

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Nice. Sicily?

Question, is the pantograph original on those cars? I thought a car of that vintage would use a trolly pole.

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 5 10:58:07 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by Fulton Frank on Sat Jul 5 09:48:41 2008.

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It's Milan, and the system went to pantographs when the new LRV's arrived. They were supposed to replace the Witts, but the public liked the Witts, so they went back in service. The overhead was reworked for the pans (no overhead frogs at switches and crossings) so the Witts got pans.

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Sat Jul 5 12:00:36 2008, in response to Photo...140, posted by R PansePCC on Fri Jul 4 05:45:32 2008.

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now that is a beautiful photo

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Re: Photo...140

Posted by milan1834 on Sat Jul 5 16:05:13 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Jul 5 10:58:07 2008.

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Actually, that's only partly correct. The Witts did get pans in the 1970s, but not for the reason stated. It was a plan to eliminate conductors that led to conversion to pantogragh.

As for getting rid of the Witts, the Sirio were supposed to do that. But the Sirio are so unreliable and the Witts so reliable, that they will soldier on for probably 10 more years. They're truly a Milanese icon. And rapidly becoming a San Francisco icon, as well.

Milantram.




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Re: Photo...140

Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sun Jul 6 08:55:53 2008, in response to Re: Photo...140, posted by milan1834 on Sat Jul 5 16:05:13 2008.

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anybody got pics circa 1975 with pans? I don't think I've seen any Milan shots from the period showing pans instead of poles.

I've always felt pans are overkill for urban streetcars/trams. If you've seen the Oporta single truckers in Memphis with pans? Uck! Some consultant recommended it, the pans are so big they are as long as the carbody.

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