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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:35:10 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 2 03:24:41 2008. A train buff has a healthy interest in trains.A foamer has an unhealthy obsession with trains. A train buff passes his love and knowledge of trains on to new generations by letting a child look out of the RFW. A foamer hogs the RFW and ignores a child who may want to look out that RFW. A train buff always follows the laws and the rules even when the laws and rules are stupid. A foamer will sometimes disregard necessary and common-sense rules if they get in the way of his obsession. That about sums it up well. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:38:11 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 2 03:24:41 2008. A train buff has a healthy interest in trains.A foamer has an unhealthy obsession with trains. A train buff passes his love and knowledge of trains on to new generations by letting a child look out of the RFW. A foamer hogs the RFW and ignores a child who may want to look out that RFW. A train buff always follows the laws and the rules even when the laws and rules are stupid. A foamer will sometimes disregard necessary and common-sense rules if they get in the way of his obsession. That about sums it up well. But to add..... A train buff usually wouldn't stand out in a normal crowd, as he/she dresses well, BATHES, gets regular haircuts, etc. A foamer wears clothes that used to fit him in the 60's (but now the bottom of his belly sticks out). His T-shirt has some worn out old photo of a train that was popular in the 60's, but is so faded you can't see it, what with the holes in the shirt too. He also smells, and his hair looks like some greasy mop. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jul 2 11:50:07 2008, in response to IND 57 Street..., posted by R42 4787 on Tue Jul 1 02:10:54 2008. Very cool station. I'd still like to give it an elevator and escalator to make its modernity complete. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 12:35:56 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:33:04 2008. you are incorrect. you are citing incorrect stereotypes/generalizations. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 12:37:00 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SMAZ on Wed Jul 2 03:24:41 2008. A train buff always follows the laws and the rules even when the laws and rules are stupid.False. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Jul 2 13:35:32 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 2 11:21:09 2008. which is whichand Lesbians are included, yes? |
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Posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 2 14:11:32 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 12:35:56 2008. Wow..pegged you good,didn't he? |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Jul 2 14:36:12 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:29:09 2008. The subway fantrips likely draw a lot more "foamer" types than the LIRR fantrips because they're cheaper. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Wed Jul 2 14:41:39 2008, in response to IND 57 Street..., posted by R42 4787 on Tue Jul 1 02:10:54 2008. IIRC there was an agent there who resembled Santa Claus! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 15:14:03 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:29:09 2008. I disagree. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jul 2 15:15:16 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by daDouce Man on Wed Jul 2 14:36:12 2008. Good point. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 2 15:34:41 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Red Line to Glenmont on Wed Jul 2 10:58:26 2008. Actually, there were 4 KK trains that returned to Metroploitan at the end of the AM rush and although they carried KK signs they were in truth MMs. |
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Posted by randyo on Wed Jul 2 15:43:05 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jul 2 11:22:36 2008. That would be the usual case on NYCT since the employee payroll week starts on Sundays. The only possible exception might be that trains would start operating into a new station or new line before passengers are carried there to familiarize crews and conform to the scheduled starting time of the pick. |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 2 16:26:33 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by MainR3664 on Wed Jul 2 11:13:45 2008. I don't need Windows to calculate dates. I know that years repeat every 28 years within a century and 400 years otherwise, and that the calendar starts 1 day later every year and 2 days later following a leap year, therefore 5 days every 4 years (and 15 days, therefore 1 day every 12 years).And 4/4, 6/6, 8/8, 10/10 and 12/12 all occur on the same day of week. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jul 2 16:33:47 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 2 16:26:33 2008. And 4/4, 6/6, 8/8, 10/10 and 12/12 all occur on the same day of week.Huh! Learn something new every day! |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Wed Jul 2 16:56:00 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by AlM on Wed Jul 2 16:33:47 2008. It works because 30+31=61 and then another 2 days gives you 63 or exactly 9 weeks! |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jul 2 16:58:50 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 15:14:03 2008. Who really gives a fuck about your opinions? |
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Posted by Spider-Pig on Thu Jul 3 01:15:45 2008, in response to IND 57 Street..., posted by R42 4787 on Tue Jul 1 02:10:54 2008. It also looks newer than the Archer stations. Those stations have decayed awfully. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 3 01:19:21 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 12:37:00 2008. False.Why? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 01:23:12 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 3 01:19:21 2008. Because that statement makes no sense. If someone doesn't follow a stupid rule, that means that can't be a train buff??? That's idiotic. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 3 01:24:11 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:38:11 2008. His T-shirt has some worn out old photo of a train that was popular in the 60's, but is so faded you can't see it, what with the holes in the shirt too. He also smells, and his hair looks like some greasy mop.Heh. You very well summarized the difference between a foamer and a homeless person. Untrained eyes wouldn't be able to tell the difference. |
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Posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 3 01:48:17 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 01:23:12 2008. Because that statement makes no sense. If someone doesn't follow a stupid rule, that means that can't be a train buff??? That's idiotic.If the stupid rule in question is the "no passing between cars" rule then train buffs, foamers and everyday passengers alike disregard it on a regular basis. One can have no interest in trains whatsoever and break that particular rule. My little summary was based on casual and generic observations between two categories of people (train buffs and foamers) who have a lot in common yet demonstrate sharply different behavior when actually railfanning. It is obviously not scientific. I'm sure there are train buffs who also happen to be murderers, rapists, child molesters, tax cheats, hackers and drug dealers but those crimes ane not related to their hobby. In other words, a train buff tends to behave like an ordinary passenger (including the minor rule-breaking done regularly by ordinary passengers) when riding the rails. A foamer tends to stand out and in extreme cases may even cross the line and engage in something dangerous (see Darius or a certain notorious young SubChatter). |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 06:18:28 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 3 01:48:17 2008. Thank you. That's exactly what I was saying. But like others here, you are still making this out to be way more than it is. There isn't this roving band of "foamers" who go on fan trips and break rules... |
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Posted by monorail on Thu Jul 3 06:20:25 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SMAZ on Thu Jul 3 01:48:17 2008. 'A foamer tends to stand out and in extreme cases may even cross the line and engage in something dangerous'like venturing where they shouldn't be? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 07:37:38 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Dan Lawrence on Tue Jul 1 22:31:34 2008. True, but not always. There is a foamer here that has good hygiene that constantly harasses you. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 07:39:22 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:38:11 2008. True, but that isn't always the case. Some foamers are in disguise. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 07:41:08 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:38:11 2008. True, but that isn't always the case. Some foamers are in disguise. They appear somewhat normal untill you start to talk to them. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 07:44:00 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 01:23:12 2008. Just because YOU think some rules are stupid does not mean they should not be followed. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 08:24:40 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 06:18:28 2008. Oh yes there is. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 08:29:28 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 12:35:56 2008. Yes, for example, you don't fit the appearance stereotype. You fit all the other stereotypes however. (with the exception of the female one, I think). |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 08:29:30 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 2 12:35:56 2008. Yes, for example, you don't fit the appearance stereotype. You fit all the other stereotypes however. (with the exception of the female one, I think). |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 08:29:48 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Edwards! on Wed Jul 2 14:11:32 2008. lol |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 08:31:39 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by monorail on Wed Jul 2 13:35:32 2008. Yes, TPs a lesbian. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 09:00:57 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 2 11:29:09 2008. iawtp |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 09:01:29 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by daDouce Man on Wed Jul 2 14:36:12 2008. Yes, foamers are a cheap bunch of fucks. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 09:27:46 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by daDouce Man on Wed Jul 2 14:36:12 2008. no, that's not true. The reason more railfans likely ride subway trips is that the subway has greater exposure and thus more fans. Plus there are a lot more subway trips to keep interest high. The number of lire trips is tiny in comparison afaik. I doubt price has much to do with anything - compare MOD prices with lirr trip prices. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 10:14:28 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 09:27:46 2008. Incorrect statement. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 3 11:44:44 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 09:27:46 2008. Jump the turnstile and you avoid the $2 fare to enter the system.And the odds of getting caught are nil if you observe beforehand. |
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Posted by AlM on Thu Jul 3 12:21:55 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 3 09:27:46 2008. The number of lire trips is tiny in comparison afaik.Perhaps that's because they use the Euro in Italy now. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 12:56:56 2008, in response to IND 57 Street..., posted by R42 4787 on Tue Jul 1 02:10:54 2008. Worked that terminal as a rookie. Did those snobbish old timers on the JFK express look down at me! How many times at the end of my job on the cruddy B the TD would have me, the rookie, lay up a JFK consist north of the station. That was fun laying up on the hill hoping the handbrakes would hold on all 3 cars in case of a power interruption. Equally fun in walking back to the station up that steep grade. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 3 13:06:09 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 12:56:56 2008. During that time you layed up B trains north of 57 Street,How far did the tunnel go at the time? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 3 13:56:04 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by daDouce Man on Thu Jul 3 13:06:09 2008. Around 1983 when I did it, the limits were to where the diamond crossovers are to/from the Broadway BMT today. But I never had to go that far. I always laid up around the curve. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 4 14:16:54 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 07:37:38 2008. Terrapin Station is a foamer? Who knew? |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 4 14:58:42 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Jul 3 07:37:38 2008. As usual, as the thread get longer, the subject matter gets lost and the "evaluation" of posters commences. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 4 16:59:56 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 4 14:58:42 2008. Nature of the beast. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 4 17:38:02 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Fri Jul 4 14:58:42 2008. Haha, yep. SUBWAYSURF can't help himself. He always obsesses. He's a troll. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Fri Jul 4 19:41:54 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 4 17:38:02 2008. The only real troll here is the one you see in the mirror every morning. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Jul 4 20:00:34 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Jul 4 17:38:02 2008. Getting rattled are we? Clown boy. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Fri Jul 4 21:29:46 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by monorail on Thu Jul 3 06:20:25 2008. Phil D. and Dooley for instance. |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sat Jul 5 00:01:43 2008, in response to Re: IND 57 Street..., posted by Edwards! on Tue Jul 1 22:37:27 2008. I don't know...whenever I took the KK back then (from Hewes St.) it surely was the least crowded train. Everyone seemed to want to catch the F at Delancey, basically because the F cars were new and, in the summer, had the a.c. |
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