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Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue May 20 16:09:00 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 15:21:30 2008. Both engineers in the Harmon Cove died, quite horrifically. The engineer in the locomotive was basically struck by the cab car in his head and neck area. The engineer in the cab car was also struck in the same areas and the locomotive impact tore away most of the operating side of the cab and caused his right arm to be severed. One can only hope that they were both knocked unconscious very early on in the crash. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 20 16:11:52 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 14:23:46 2008. Who *let* these companies go to the junk though? The same people who run the railroadsFalse. Do some research on it. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 20 16:23:58 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by AMoreira81 on Tue May 20 15:08:55 2008. I would hope Metro North would buy them. Some Hudson line trains could use more cars with middle doors. Perhaps some of the oldest Shoreliner I's could be retired. |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:27:21 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 20 16:11:52 2008. The government runs the railroads, and the governments turned their backs on the companies. The PA was the first company to buy cars from the outside: the PA3s by hawker, after that it was all downhill. At that time, they could have easily ordered cars from BUDD, or St. lOuis car, or Pullman, as they were still around before the MTA got to them.MTA practically forced the latter two companies out of buisiness. Now why are you being arrogant? Not to mention how the government of the US provided 0 aid to those companies. MTA was thinking about going to BUDD for the 62s, but they didn't have a subsidized price like kawasaki or bombardier due to their helpful governments. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 16:56:46 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Tue May 20 16:23:58 2008. MNCR is not in market for any Push Pull cars.the end door shoreliners are being rebuilt and will be good for another 18 years, with the 23 west of Hudson cars MNCR has plenty of Push Pull cars but not enough engines. |
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Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 20 19:09:11 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 16:56:46 2008. Gotta get that Tappan Zee crossing built. I wanna see Comet Vs out of Port Jarvis heading for GCT hauled by the P32AC-DMs sporting the new Metro-North corporate paint scheme
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:07:12 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 20 19:09:11 2008. before CometV 's can run into GCT they would need one hell of a rebuilt as the electrical cabinets will not clear signals and certain parts of third rail like in loop.This is one of reasons CDOT was told they could not buy Comet V for West of Hudson services. |
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Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 20:16:46 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:07:12 2008. Why wouldn't they clear signals? Is there some sort of special track circuits at GCT? |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:33:50 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 20:16:46 2008. The 3 light type Dwarf signals would get hit by the electrical boxes the cars will not clear cetain items in GCT. |
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Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Tue May 20 20:39:27 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:33:50 2008. The Comet V cars have a very different envelope from the earlier Comet series cars, then? |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 20:47:24 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:33:50 2008. Oh, i see, thanks. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:51:51 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by trainsarefun on Tue May 20 20:39:27 2008. yes different underbody stuff and not planned for full third rail acces. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 06:13:11 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:27:21 2008. Geez, talk about mindless prattle. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 07:10:37 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:07:12 2008. >>>>This is one of reasons CDOT was told they could not buy Comet V for West of Hudson services. <<<I'm confused. What does CDOT run West of Hudson? |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 07:13:44 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue May 20 13:43:04 2008. Yeah, he should be calling them double deckers.....hahaha. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 21 20:09:43 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Olog-hai on Tue May 20 19:09:11 2008. The P32AC's will be retired before the first Port Jervis train ever sets forth for GCT. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 21 20:13:50 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 16:56:46 2008. They should be. I rode on perhaps the three worst Shoreliner I's I've ever been on. Flat wheels, rattling seats and the cab/toilet car smelled worse than a convention of skels. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 21 21:08:17 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 07:10:37 2008. sorry I ment East of Hudson Services. |
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Posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 21 21:10:44 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 21 20:13:50 2008. Unless you are a QMP your not in position to call them flat wheels or spots, I am not allowed to make that determination and I got 24 years experience.As for Bathroom even pigsty's smell clean untill the pigs use them. |
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Posted by chuchubob on Wed May 21 21:14:56 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 21 21:10:44 2008. You're right, of course. The wheels were round; it was the tires that had the flat spots. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 21 21:24:10 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 21 21:10:44 2008. I don't work for the MTA, I can say whatever I want. Of course, that means I don't know what I', talking about.I do consider myself qualified to label a funk a funk ... |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu May 22 05:05:42 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Wed May 21 21:08:17 2008. k |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 22 07:03:32 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Dutchrailnut on Tue May 20 20:07:12 2008. I guess CDOT doesn't follow the KISS principle? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 22 07:05:48 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Osmosis Jones on Thu May 22 07:03:32 2008. Huh??? They were built for NJT and MNCR WOH. They don't have a GCT over there... |
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Posted by JohnL on Thu May 22 18:06:23 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed May 21 06:13:11 2008. The man is living proof of the second law of thermodynamics. Unfortunately his entropy increases faster than ours! |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 22 18:53:56 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 16:27:21 2008. Where do you make up all this stuff from? Seems like you have a mental problem. Nothing you said is based in reality. Get well soon . . . |
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Posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 19:09:07 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Olog-hai on Thu May 22 18:53:56 2008. Guy, it is KNOWN that the PA3s were the first subway stock built COMPLETELY outside the US with PUBLIC funds.Now they have to make a small percentage in the states, so they send them here from japan, and all we have to do is peel off the plastic wrapping, and fill the cmpressors with american air. |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 22 19:17:06 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet IB cars?, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed May 21 20:09:43 2008. Honestly, I have seen a Genesis on a West-on-Hudson train: in 1999, passing through Waldwick, NJ pushing a train. It was a surpise, ususally expecting the GP40s on the Hoboken division. |
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Posted by 156n3rd on Thu May 22 19:41:46 2008, in response to NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Chipper10 on Mon May 19 17:34:16 2008. There is an old Blue Comet coach connected to a restaurant 20 miles in to NJ from Pa. from the old Central RR of NJ. |
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Posted by mark S. Feinman on Thu May 22 22:13:13 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by JohnL on Thu May 22 18:06:23 2008. Agreed. He spews more disinformation that Mount St. Helens spewed ash.--mark |
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Posted by mark S. Feinman on Thu May 22 22:14:55 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Tue May 20 14:17:26 2008. Every new rail car class has some kind of teething pain when they are first put out on the road. That doesn't mean they are of inferior quality.--Mark |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 22 23:13:07 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by mark S. Feinman on Thu May 22 22:14:55 2008. Especially the R44/46, which were intended to replace the R16 but ended up having being to substituted by them and R10s! |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Thu May 22 23:54:51 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue May 20 13:43:04 2008. Missed it on my part...when the term is Multi-Level Vehicle, or MLV. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Fri May 23 00:00:02 2008, in response to NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Chipper10 on Mon May 19 17:34:16 2008. Just one thing:The term for the 7xxx railcars being delivered to NJTR is MULTI-LEVEL VEHICLE, or MLV. Do not forget that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri May 23 00:13:14 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Mr. D - Type on Tue May 20 13:43:04 2008. Because he's Chipper10. You know his deal, right? If not, email me, and I'll fill you in. |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri May 23 13:01:31 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by R42 4787 on Thu May 22 23:13:07 2008. Yes I'm fully aware that there are exceptions.--Mark |
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Posted by Mark S. Feinman on Fri May 23 13:05:58 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by mark S. Feinman on Thu May 22 22:13:13 2008. I meant to type ...Agreed. He spews more disinformation than Mount St. Helens spewed ash. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 23 14:02:03 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by JournalSquare-K-Car on Thu May 22 19:09:07 2008. Your premise has no basis because you said "The government owns the railroads" (a general statement, which is false due to the many private railroads that still abound) and "The MTA practically forced (St. Louis Car Company and Pullman Standard) out of business".And don't ever call me "guy" again. Plus, you are wrong. General Steel stopped the St. Louis Car Company business in 1968, so there was no St. Louis Car Company to buy any cars from by the time that the PANYNJ was going to buy the PA-3. Budd was damaged by the SPV2000 fiasco and was more focused anyway on their automobile-centered business than on the railroads, even from their beginnings. There has been no Pullman Company since 1969; Pullman Technology has been a part of Bombardier since the early 80s. So who was PATH supposed to buy the PA-3s from, then, if those companies you cited weren't active to pursue bids for them? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 23 14:08:59 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by kp5308 on Tue May 20 08:12:37 2008. I agree with that, yes. Do something instead of nothing. Then those greenway-lovin' mayors of Bethlehem and Hellertown might feel the pressure to get the railroad rebuilt into the Lehigh Valley too instead of having the train stop dead at Quakertown (if that were to happen at all, itself). |
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Posted by kp5308 on Fri May 23 14:53:10 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 23 14:08:59 2008. instead of having the train stop dead at QuakertownMay hafta settle for the ole' half a loaf (not that I like it). Better than none at all, 'specially with the NIMBY's that will be all over dat "bringing the EEEEEEEEvil trains back", regardless of the bennys of it.... In regards to the Reading service, should the Berks And Reading Transportation Authority (BARTA) not get their funding source(s)in order, SEPTA could end the service at Pottstown, laying a few storage tracks in the emptiness that was Stowe Yard on the west edge of Montgomery County. Best scenario is, of course, going to Reading, but Berks County isn't known for it's transportation policy, or political connections. IMO that's how we lost the Reading service in the 80's, despite increasing ridership :o( |
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Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Fri May 23 15:49:58 2008, in response to Re: NJ Transit Comet I cars still in service and question on the Comet Ib cars?, posted by kp5308 on Fri May 23 14:53:10 2008. Better than none at all, 'specially with the NIMBY's that will be all over dat "bringing the EEEEEEEEvil trains back", regardless of the bennys of itWait until Route 309 gets jammed up with people trying to get to the Quakertown rail stations. I don't even think that there are too many NIMBYs in Coopersburg and Hellertown; it's 100 percent on the politicians. In regards to the Reading service, should the Berks And Reading Transportation Authority (BARTA) not get their funding source(s)in order, SEPTA could end the service at Pottstown, laying a few storage tracks in the emptiness that was Stowe Yard on the west edge of Montgomery County. Best scenario is, of course, going to Reading, but Berks County isn't known for it's transportation policy, or political connections. IMO that's how we lost the Reading service in the 80's, despite increasing ridership Great when transportation on the rail end of things is balkanized, ain't it? However, we got federal support for roads and airports out the wazoo. |
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