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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:22:40 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:19:16 2008. You are a pathetic child. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:23:53 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:16:12 2008. lol, DRN agrees with me. He posted about the leeway.And why do I even need anyone's support? I rode an NJT arrow III set that hit 100 MPH when they are supposedly limited (by whatever means) to 80 MPH. That was speeding, AFAIK, unless the engineer was given authority to go to that speed. In all the times I've posted about that incident, no one has ever suggested that the engineer could have been given that authority. I can post stupid witty statements too, you know. Man who go through airport turnstile sideways going to Bangkok. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:25:03 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:19:07 2008. False, I never refused to admit that. Where do you get this stuff from? Go find the post where I did that. Please. Otherwise, STFU, lol. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:25:36 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:19:07 2008. He thought it was authorized speed but he meant attainable but he was thinking allowable. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:25:51 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:13:34 2008. Well, I'm happy that your counting skills are better than your reading skills.Nonetheless, you've shown nothing. You've claimed that engineers act at a risk of getting caught, as do motorists. As at least three posters have stated, that is incorrect. The probability of being found out is essentially unity, so your talk or 'risk' in both cases is just incorrect. Your argument has been nothing but to repeat the original claim with more exclaim; that's not a proof of anything other than your confusion. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:26:23 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:20:35 2008. If there is no Roadforeman my transgressions would be exposed once the black box is downloaded(once a week)I did not ignore that. As I already said, he can speed as long as he accepts the risks, and there is also leeway in how much he can exceed the speed limit. You seem to forget that every time, gosh darnit. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:28:48 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:23:53 2008. Of course we only have your word for those 'facts'. You didn't happen to take a video of the speedometer, did you?If I were you, I'd be getting used to that saddle we spoke about Bergit. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:29:24 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:26:23 2008. OK, keep riding the platforms instead of the trains....It doesn't seem like you will mislead anyone beside yourself in this, so that's good enough for me. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:29:27 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:21:26 2008. I suggested that someone might take offense to the garbage you spew and teach you a strong lesson about manners.Wow, there's an original thought. Do you know how many times people use that line on internet forums all over the world? You're really out of touch with reality if you think you can gauge, with any semblance of accuracy, what would happen in the real world based upon unrelated activity online. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:29:51 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:22:40 2008. You are a despicable life form. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:30:29 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:25:36 2008. Incorrect. I meant authorized/allowable, which are the same thing. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:30:33 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:25:03 2008. STFU? If you can't be man enough to admit when you are wrong, at least be man enough to discuss things without being nasty. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:31:03 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:25:51 2008. You've claimed that engineers act at a risk of getting caught, as do motorists.I've done no such thing! |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:32:04 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:28:48 2008. lol, show me just one case where I have ever lied about facts. EVER. on this board. just once. you obviously don't have a clue. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:32:26 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:30:29 2008. But you did say attainable, didn't you? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:33:38 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:29:24 2008. I am not riding any platforms. Stop making stupid posts. You are you merry band of (only) two other people can sleep well tonight knowing that you wasted tons of precious time trying to disprove that which I never said. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:33:44 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:30:33 2008. You expect too much - the boy gets pottymouthed when the world doesn't reflect his thinking. Little does he realize that the person who actually has an argument doesn't have to hurl profanities. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:34:06 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:32:04 2008. That's hardly the point. Prove that you were on a NJT train that was going 100 MPH where the MAS was 80 MPH. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:35:27 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:31:03 2008. I'll just sit back and let anyone else with the patience to follow this topic read your earlier posts. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 14 00:35:40 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:34:06 2008. I do wonder if there's treatment for foam overdose . . . |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:36:58 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:30:33 2008. Yes, STFU. You have no business making false claims here. You want to dig up something from the past? Then post some links. Otherwise, STFU. You heard me. You got into this totally by your own choice. Now you're not man enough to be part of it? Maybe next time you'll not enter in the first place. Let this be a lesson to you. You made the first nasty against me. I made no nasty against you before you made you lie filled post. Try treating others as you want to be treated. That means not posting lies about others. Oh, and read the whole thread before posting. Others got nasty before I ever responded to them in kind. Don't be a hypocrite. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:37:49 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:32:26 2008. I believe I did write attainable, yes. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:37:53 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Olog-hai on Wed May 14 00:35:40 2008. Well, if there were, this young lad would be a tough test of its effectiveness. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:40:26 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:36:58 2008. I most certainly didn't make any nasty statements about you other than my statement that you were wrong. That point of view has not changed. You are wrong and all of your childish rants will not change that. You are simply wrong. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:41:38 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:37:49 2008. So do you admit that you were wrong? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:41:44 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:34:06 2008. Why do I need to prove it? As I said, I've never ever posted lies about facts here, and there are plenty of active members here who will back me up on that.I was in fact on an Arrow III set, and by my GPS unit, which has proven itself accurate time and time again, the train accelerated up to 100 MPH for a short time and then dropped back to a slower speed. All of my other Arrow III rides where I have used my GPS have seen speeds only as high as 80 MPH. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:42:47 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 00:35:27 2008. Ha, you have no legitimate response. Maybe you're finally understanding what I've been saying all night - you and (only) two others keep trying to disprove that which I did not say. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:44:33 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:40:26 2008. Yes you most certainly did. 616801. That was nasty as it is an outright lie only posted to try to make me look bad. That's disgusting behavior. You are wrong, your post was wrong, and nothing will change that. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:45:11 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:41:44 2008. You need to prove it because what you say flies in the face of logic. We only have your word that you'venever posted a lie. |
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Posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:46:46 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:44:33 2008. Ha, you have no legitimate response. That link does not show a nasty response, just one that says that you were wrong. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:46:47 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:41:38 2008. I admitted to mistakenly using the wrong word when I was asked to define a term I used in a previous post. That wrong word did not change the fact that the idea I was expressing in that earlier post was not incorrect. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:47:53 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:46:47 2008. Well, as long as you admitted that you were wrong, I accept it. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:50:40 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:45:11 2008. LOL, flies in the face of logic? If I'm not mistaken, another poster here told me that just in the last few days or so he was on an Arrow III Set, that IIRC, also went above 80 MPH, according to his GPS. I will have to confirm that with him when I speak to him next. But in any event, you're saying that there's absolutely no way Jose an Arrow III set could ever exceed 80 MPH? What about the simple case of the engineer either purposely or mistakenly "going faster" and catching hell for it (or not) afterward? That could never happen?? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:51:22 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:44:33 2008. As I said, that was nasty as it is an outright lie only posted to try to make me look bad. That's disgusting behavior. You are wrong, your post was wrong, and nothing will change that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:56:37 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 00:47:53 2008. Thank you. I never claim to be perfect. In fact I make mistakes all the time. And when I make mistakes, I admit it, and I apologize. The issue last week was that our resident member of NYCT management, in another oh so mature moment, tried to maliciously say that I was wrong about something, when I wasn't. The fact of the matter was that I forgot to include a qualifier to make my statement most clear. But regardless, I had made a post only minutes earlier correctly and clearly stating my thought. But he conveniently ignored that when he attacked me. And then in one of my responses, I defined a term and mistakenly used the wrong word. And that had nothing to do with the original point! |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 08:28:13 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:42:47 2008. No, I don't argue with children and people who can't recall the claims that they were just passionately expressing a few minutes prior. Unlike you, I find no solace in argument for its own sake. Since you flatly contradict what you already repeatedly asserted but deny that you repeatedly asserted, there is no point in arguing with someone who can't even get clear one what his own position is. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 08:33:19 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:51:22 2008. Arguing with YOURSELF? Again? Self-contradiction really is your forte....Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:51:22 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:44:33 2008. As I said, that was nasty as it is an outright lie only posted to try to make me look bad. That's disgusting behavior. You are wrong, your post was wrong, and nothing will change that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 09:45:44 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 08:28:13 2008. False, as I said, you enjoy arguing about that which I never said. Quite sad, you are, really. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 09:47:16 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 08:33:19 2008. No. That was obviously a mistake. It should have been in response to post 616838. I will correct that now. You are really grasping for straws if this is the best you can come up with. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 09:48:15 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Rockparkman on Wed May 14 00:46:46 2008. I posted the following in the wrong place last night. This is where it should have been. My apologies.-------------------- As I said, that was nasty as it is an outright lie only posted to try to make me look bad. That's disgusting behavior. You are wrong, your post was wrong, and nothing will change that. |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 19:02:03 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:51:22 2008. So are we now to understand that when you run out of people to argue with, you turn on yourself? |
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Posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 19:07:41 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 09:45:44 2008. Are you still arguing with people? I think I'm seeing a pattern here. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 21:11:29 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 09:47:16 2008. But you were correct in your effort at self-analysis originally; why take that back and return to your usual?Your self-description skills really work well when you want to be honest, I see: Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:51:22 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 00:44:33 2008. As I said, that was nasty as it is an outright lie only posted to try to make me look bad. That's disgusting behavior. You are wrong, your post was wrong, and nothing will change that. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 21:13:04 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Wed May 14 21:11:29 2008. No, as I said, that was obviously a mistake. It should have been in response to post 616838. You are really grasping for straws if this is the best you can come up with. |
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Posted by Bergit on Thu May 15 00:21:45 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed May 14 09:47:16 2008. Wow, you admit another mistake! So how can we now believe that your GPS readings were not just another mistake. Maybe you were holding the GPS unit upside down? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 00:22:48 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Thu May 15 00:21:45 2008. Because hopefully you're not a complete idiot. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 00:25:40 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 19:02:03 2008. I guess you really are that dumb. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 00:25:59 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Bergit on Wed May 14 19:07:41 2008. Are you still arguing with people? I think I'm seeing a pattern here. |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Thu May 15 00:31:22 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 00:25:59 2008. Interesting. Usually this sort of lame mimicking behavior is only exhibited in pre-pubesecent children.... |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu May 15 00:32:46 2008, in response to Re: High speed rail on the NEC—300 km/h service, posted by trainsarefun on Thu May 15 00:31:22 2008. No, usually the sort of disgusting behavior you started is only seen in pre-pubesecent children.... |
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