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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 19:55:16 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Railman718 on Sun Jan 20 18:09:07 2008. Around that time there was a passenger that fell between cars at Brooklyn Bridge. THen there was the 5 year old that fell north of Dekalb on R40 equipment.Here is another: AND ANOTHER On Halloween of 2006, one more crossing death Here is a paid professional conductor who says it is unsafe to even walk between the cars This was on the advice of our in house resident who demands googling everything, which was about 5 minutes worth so there is NO misinformation on the question of safety these days. Oh here is one on the 1 train last year but it is perfectly safe |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 20 19:56:12 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 19:55:16 2008. In the case of the R40 Slant, the kid was in the car, but leaving DeKalb, the door swung open and the kid was launched out of the car to his death. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 19:59:16 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 19:55:16 2008. the slant incident doesn't countthe brooklyn bridge incident involved someone riding between cars IIRC the (1) incident says notihng about whether he was doing anything wrong between cars, as homeless people often do so you showed nothing. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 19:59:35 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 19:55:16 2008. the slant incident doesn't countthe brooklyn bridge incident involved someone riding between cars IIRC the (1) incident says nothing about whether he was doing anything wrong between cars, as homeless people often do so you showed nothing. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jan 20 20:01:36 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by trainsarefun on Sun Jan 20 19:41:26 2008. Just like having the judge only rather than to have a jury to decide on the case [sometimes the jury will side w/the victim costing millions from the MTA]. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:20:37 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 19:59:35 2008. All you showed was double posts. Read the links and you will read quotes from authority figures that it is unsafe. A few bad apples ruined it for you. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 20:24:22 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:20:37 2008. I did not make a double post. (you people never learn, do you?)The examples you cited were invalid. I asked who has died from simply passing between cars. That quote from the conductor is garbage and you know it. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:31:59 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 20:24:22 2008. Post 556904Post 556905 You misrepresented yourself again |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 20:35:31 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:31:59 2008. Post 556912You don't understand English. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:40:06 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 19:55:16 2008. OK Pinnochio, your nose is long enoughRe: LOL Told ya so! - Terrapin Station - Sun Jan 20 19:59:16 2008 Re: LOL Told ya so! - Terrapin Station - Sun Jan 20 19:59:35 2008 |
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Posted by Easy on Sun Jan 20 20:41:04 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:40:06 2008. Those two posts are different. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sun Jan 20 20:44:24 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:40:06 2008. Ok Tweedle Dee, your brain is small enough.Re: LOL Told ya so! - Terrapin Station - Sun Jan 20 20:35:31 2008 |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:48:08 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Easy on Sun Jan 20 20:41:04 2008. WHy? Because he added boldface to one word? He still didn't look through all the links or prove it is safe to do so, just using statistics from 100 years. There are two authority figures stating it is unsafe, both of which are employed by NYCT. Shame he has the gall to state a conductor's opinion isn't worth shit to make his arguments. All it takes is a person with a dizzy spell or loss of balance to ruin it for anyone else who thinks it is unsafe. I have seen enough falls between cars working as a conductor, motorman and engineer for over 20 years to know NYCT is better off with that rule |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 21:21:26 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 20:48:08 2008. And like anything else police officers "have to pay the rent".They are expected to produce a certain number of tickets a month and going on sweeps gets the revenue, they check those with no ID for warrants and in general it keeps crime down in the subways. Its the the broken window theory. As a teen growing up in NYC we rode between cars to drink beer, smoke ciggarrettes and other things. Luckily the police never caught me. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:13:31 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 20 12:23:48 2008. Do not debate this issue with Swineburger. He's made an extensive study - on being an annoying little PR!@K. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:16:08 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 19:55:16 2008. Warning! Do not debate this issue with Swineburger. He's made an exensive study on the subject - of being an annoying little PR!@K. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:17:38 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 21:21:26 2008. Even luckier that you didn't end up as a statistic. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:19:15 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 19:13:12 2008. "Well lets see, Boston does 65mph on level track"I've ridden all the lines in Boston. The Orange Line never got past 40 mph and usually did less, the Blue Line certainly did not do anything close to 65 outbound to the airport, though I concede I didn't ride it beyond the airport, so I can't comment about its catenary territory. The Red Line doesn't do 65 across the Charles River Bridge, nor does it do 65 anywhere north of the Charles River. The only place it might do 65 is south of Boston downtown, maybe. As to Philadelphia, the Market-Frankford Line doesn't do 70 anywhere, including the level track in the tunnel where it bypasses 19th and 22nd St stations. The Broad Street local doesn't do anywhere near 70 mph, but the express is pretty respectable at 55-65 but not consistently. So other than being full of shit, what was your point? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jan 20 23:29:15 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:19:15 2008. Ouch, harsh. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:38:04 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:19:15 2008. That's it. He's shot his entire load. |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 23:41:35 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:19:15 2008. I'm sorry? The BSS most definitely does more than 70mph. I've witnessed 77mph on a commute to North Philly and have been on trips with other subchatters that topped 70mph.The only place it might do 65 is south of Boston downtown, maybe. Well that'd still be more than 65mph, right? Now who was full of shit? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:52:20 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:38:04 2008. I figured that, but I wanted to give him the benefit of the doubt. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:53:46 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Grand concourse on Sun Jan 20 23:29:15 2008. There I go again. I should be more gentle. I could have left that last line out. OK, you have a point. I thank you. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 23:53:59 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:17:38 2008. Very true!And I remember hanging out between R44 cars on the A line with a homey drinking a beer, back in those days the doors were sometimes broken and it was a great place to hide. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 23:56:05 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:52:20 2008. And we are to believe he's a global warming crisis expert.I would love to smash a sock full of horse manure on to Will D's head. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:56:57 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 23:41:35 2008. "The BSS most definitely does more than 70mph. I've witnessed 77mph on a commute to North Philly and have been on trips with other subchatters that topped 70mph."Doubtful. "Well that'd still be more than 65mph, right?" Maybe. If it actually does it. If it does, that's a third of one line out of four subway lines in Boston doing anything close to what you describe. "Now who was full of shit?" You still are. No change. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 21 00:08:14 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 23:53:59 2008. Back around '82, I was working the PMs at 168th St. Got called tot he #1, 191St IIRC. for a kid who was riding the roof of a Southbound and didn't make it under the pedestrian bridge. Reminded me of when I was a kid riding the "D" as a kid and hanging out between cars, too. I was lucky. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Jan 21 00:17:47 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 21:21:26 2008. I remembered the days. Enjoyed them even better. Still think of staring at those bright big "A" signs while between cars in the Rockaways |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Jan 21 00:18:46 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:16:08 2008. Now thats NOT a double post! |
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Posted by (SIR) North Shore Line on Mon Jan 21 00:22:28 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 19:13:12 2008. MTA Staten Island Railway does 60mph on it's many express runs. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Jan 21 00:51:36 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!(12-9 on the J today), posted by Railman718 on Sun Jan 20 18:11:44 2008. Oh I know the storm door opened up and the wind blew her out of her seat and between and under the train. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jan 21 00:59:47 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Train Dude on Mon Jan 21 00:08:14 2008. Youth is wasted on youth. As young people we didn't think of death or injury. When I lived in Harlem I would see kids riding the #1 train roof daily on the elevated part at 125 Street.I only imagine one slip or delay by a few seconds and a 15 years old life is over. |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jan 21 01:03:04 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Jan 20 23:56:57 2008. Will D's credibility meter:
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jan 21 01:04:08 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Mon Jan 21 00:17:47 2008. Thats exactly the line we cut school to ride and of course anything going to Coney Island! |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Mon Jan 21 01:08:49 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 23:53:59 2008. One time a few years ago on [maybe 94~] either an R or G train I saw someone riding b/w cars on an R46. Dunno if the door was unlocked or not but he was out there for like a few stops and stayed on after i got off. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Mon Jan 21 01:09:16 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Sun Jan 20 23:53:59 2008. One time a few years ago on [maybe 1994~ give or take*] either an R or G train I saw someone riding b/w cars on an R46. Dunno if the door was unlocked or not but he was out there for like a few stops and stayed on after i got off. |
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Posted by R30A on Mon Jan 21 01:35:15 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!(12-9 on the J today), posted by Railman718 on Sun Jan 20 18:11:44 2008. Probably was pissing. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Mon Jan 21 01:41:42 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Mr Mabstoa on Mon Jan 21 01:04:08 2008. All lines to Coney Island could be collectively callerd the F train. F, as in Fun. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 21 03:54:20 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by AMoreira81 on Sun Jan 20 08:35:56 2008. Yes, they were uniformed cops. Even with Chauncey Street's horrible yellowed lighting, I could tell they were cops from four car-lengths away. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Mon Jan 21 04:21:11 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 19:13:12 2008. LA Metro subway lines approach 70, and the Gold Line LRT can get up to 60. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 21 05:00:20 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Sun Jan 20 13:27:04 2008. I, too, 100% agree with that post. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 21 05:11:04 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 16:39:20 2008. This is yet another reason the trains get slowed down. At a major station, with only one "main" staircase, EVERYBODY "needs" to be in "that" car which opens up right next to that staircase.After I've already closed the rear of the train with no issues at all, I look to the front, and people are STILL slowly filing off. Waiting. Waiting. Waiting. Meanwhile, there's two dozen or so people on the platform waiting to get ON the train, and it's too much for them to walk to the next car, which has NOBODY getting off. No, they have to wait until that first car is devoid of people exiting, and then take their time boarding there. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Mon Jan 21 05:12:28 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by BLE-NIMX on Sun Jan 20 17:57:05 2008. R-42...I don't have a horn. :-( |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Mon Jan 21 06:43:10 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by WillD on Sun Jan 20 23:41:35 2008. I'd like to ride the SEPTA BSS express and see the speedometer say 77.That's really moving. The fastest I ever saw was 63. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Mon Jan 21 06:56:24 2008, in response to LOL Told ya so!, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Jan 20 06:38:14 2008. I still think that's an unreasonable rule, if not a dangerous one.What if I enter a car and several rowdy, noisy, hoodie-wearing teens enter after me? What if I enter a car only to discover that a hygiene- and residence-challenged person is already there and is emitting a pungent odor of human waste that is usually found in toilets? And what if the train is held up between stations due to "congestion?" Are you saying that I'm a scofflaw if I change cars to avoid getting mugged, attacked or nauseated? |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 21 10:34:21 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!(12-9 on the J today), posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Jan 21 00:51:36 2008. That can't be too much of a joke, however. That is how the kid was killed on the Q train---storm door flew open, and the kid was launched out of the car/ |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Mon Jan 21 10:48:31 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Train Dude on Sun Jan 20 23:16:08 2008. How do you know he has a little.... ☺Extensive Studies? Or unsubstantiated rumors? Oh well, LION could not resist putting two cents down on this one. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Jan 21 11:44:38 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sun Jan 20 13:36:14 2008. Some are. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 21 14:48:15 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!, posted by Kriston Lewis on Mon Jan 21 11:44:38 2008. Then that is why there are procedures to challenge it. But remember, everything must be brought up at the hearing, as you normally can't introduce new stuff on appeal. |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Mon Jan 21 14:49:39 2008, in response to Re: LOL Told ya so!(12-9 on the J today), posted by R30A on Mon Jan 21 01:35:15 2008. Meh---I've seen secondary problems too, if you know what I mean. |
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