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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 9 11:45:46 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. Solution: westbound commuters should arrive 3-4 minutes earlier than the scheduled train. Problem solved. |
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Posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 9 11:50:08 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. So? I'd arrive at the station 5-10 minutes EARLY.Next, I'd demand that the railroad build a pedestrian overpass, or failing that to post a gate guard who can manually operate a pedestrian gate. ROAR |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jan 9 12:25:14 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 9 11:50:08 2008. >>>>So? I'd arrive at the station 5-10 minutes EARLY.<<Stop making sense. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 9 12:49:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Broadway Lion on Wed Jan 9 11:50:08 2008. Oh please, must you drag common sense into the discussion? Sheesh.your pal, Fred |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jan 9 12:50:39 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 9 12:49:52 2008. Oh sorry, forgot where I was. |
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Posted by AlM on Wed Jan 9 12:55:03 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. The station is located in the southern part of Cedarhurst, so all commuters who live north of the station (like me) have to cross the tracks to get to the westbound platform.This made no sense to me until I realized that the "westbound" trains at Cedarhurst are actually traveling in an easterly direction. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 9 13:00:16 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. If these westbound commuters left the house 5-10 minutes earlier, they won't have to get trapped in the crossing gate at 9:03. I agree with Chris. |
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Posted by Fred G on Wed Jan 9 13:08:22 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by SUBWAYSURF on Wed Jan 9 12:50:39 2008. LOL, don't let it happen again.your pal, Fred |
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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 13:24:47 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 9 11:45:46 2008. Obviously, but sometimes lateness can't be helped - babysitters arrive late, people oversleep, etc. That's not the point. The point is that the LIRR has created a difficult and possibly dangerous situation with this scheduling. |
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Re: How Commuters Conspire Against the LIRR and Nassau PD |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 13:24:48 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. Now you're talking NIMBY falsehoods?Running for the train at the last minute is folly, even if the line is not at grade. Wise commuters don't do it. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 13:26:05 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 9 11:45:46 2008. Solution: westbound commuters should arrive 3-4 minutes earlier than the scheduled train. Problem solved.No that makes too much sense for some people out there, you kidding use common sense?? NO WAY!!! I agree 110% with the post BTW... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 13:33:40 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 13:24:47 2008. Obviously, but sometimes lateness can't be helpedRTO dont want to hear that you are late you are late AWOL... babysitters arrive late Tell them to arrive ON TIME you are paying them people oversleep Then that's Thier fault they are adult's they should get thier self up... That's not the point. So it the L.I.R.R's fault then right? My father once told me if you have to leave your house 1 hr early catch an earlier train so be it.. "Greatness requires Sacrifice"... |
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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:36:22 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. Yes, of course, in fantasy world people will leave 5 minutes earlier because a train they aren't taking might arrive 30 seconds late.In some fantasy worlds, those people actually leave 30 minutes earlier and catch a different train altogether. And, of course, in extreme railfan fantasy world there are no passengers on the trains -- because they just make them late anyway. In the real world, people have to drop their children off at school or wait for the babysitter to arrive or one of a million other everyday realities and can't always arrive 5 minutes earlier for everything. And in the event everyone did arrive at the station 5 or 10 minutes early there wouldn't be enough shelters for days of inclement weather. The most cost-effective solution here is to build an overpass at the station. I've never understood how the LIRR determined which stations get overpasses and which stations do not. On the Far Rock branch, my recollection is that only Gibson has an overpass. How Gibson? Why Gibson? If I'm not mistaken, Gibson actually has the only overpass for an at-grade station for the entire South Shore of Nassau County (Long Beach may have one now from the parking garage). Meanwhile many of the at-grade stations on the more northern LIRR branches have either overpasses or underpasses. Even barely utilized stations like Roslyn (overpass) and Stewart Manor (underpass) have them. This may sound a little bit too Ron-in-Bayside-esque, but you'll get no satisfaction here. Your issue needs to be taken up with your local government officials and the LIRR to find out how you can get an overpass built at your station. The biggest roadblock may be cost -- I don't know if a new overpass built today would need to be ADA accessible. CG |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 13:38:50 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:36:22 2008. Another person making sense will you stop it people dont want to hear that!!They want to Blame somebody, anybody!!! |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:45:16 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 13:33:40 2008. You guys are missing the point.The LIRR is a business. Businesses exist to serve their customers. Allowing a situation to exist where you take some of your best customers (daily riders) and force them to make a choice between waiting 45 minutes and risking their safety / getting a ticket is bad business . McDonalds, Starbucks and Dunkin Donuts customers wanted to get their coffee and meals faster. They didn't want to park their cars, cross the parking lot and wait on line inside the store because it took too long. They could have told their customers to leave their houses earlier but instead they built drive through windows. This is what a well-run business does --> they look for a way to serve their customers better. A person who wants to take the 9:03 train should know that if they arrive at the station at 9:02 they won't be waving good-bye to the train. Given the scheduling issue Mitch described, that is exactly what is happening. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:04:39 2008, in response to How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 11:24:50 2008. Cedarhurst. Isn't that the town that is the bigget crybaby town too about the LIRR horns?Why do all these complaints always come out of Cedarhurst? Wah Wah Wah. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 14:07:32 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:04:39 2008. Check out Cedarhurst on YouTube. You'll find many videos showing how bad the horns are. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:07:38 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 13:24:47 2008. The point is that the LIRR has created a difficult and possibly dangerous situation with this scheduling.People break the law when they are late, go around clothes gates, complain when the cops ticket them for breaking the law, and it's the LIRR's fault? Leave 5 minutes earlier. If the babysitter is late, take the next train. If the babysitter is late everyday, get a new babysitter. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:12:45 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:36:22 2008. In the real world, people have to drop their children off at school or wait for the babysitter to arrive or one of a million other everyday realities and can't always arrive 5 minutes earlier for everything.The "babysitter" can occasionally be late. If she is always late, tell her to come a half hour earlier than you previously told her. If she keeps coming late, get a new babysitter. And in the event everyone did arrive at the station 5 or 10 minutes early there wouldn't be enough shelters for days of inclement weather. So bring an unbrella. |
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Posted by BMTLines on Wed Jan 9 14:30:29 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:45:16 2008. The LIRR is a businessThat may have been true years ago but now it is owned by a government monopoly that couldn't care less about its customers. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:35:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:45:16 2008. What are you talking about? |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:36:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:36:22 2008. You're talking irrationally, WADR.Last-second commuters would miss their train whether the Far Rockaway Branch was grade-separated or not. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:37:49 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 13:38:50 2008. He's not making sense. Even if there were an overpass or underpass, these people who want to dash across the crossing would miss the train because they are simply that tardy. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 9 14:40:12 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 14:07:32 2008. Then don't back up the residents that are complaining about the noise. They are the ones that bought property near the LIRR station or ROW, where other houses are several blocks away. |
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Posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:41:27 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 14:07:32 2008. Steam whistles were louder. Cedarhusrt does indeed sound like it's populated with milennial whiners.Wanna silence the horns? Build full-width crossing gates.  |
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Posted by Easy on Wed Jan 9 14:43:06 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Jan 9 11:45:46 2008. Yeah. You have to look at it as you missed your train even though it's still there. Passengers on buses may not be as flexible about when they can get there, but I don't know if there are any (or many).I had a similar problem on metrolink where the gates would sometimes go down and stay down in the same manner because of two trains. Except in my case I didn't have to cross the tracks, but I did have to duck under the gate to get to the platform because the sidewalk to the platform was directly on the other side of the gate. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:48:13 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:45:16 2008. Allowing a situation to exist where you take some of your best customers (daily riders) and force them to make a choice between waiting 45 minutes and risking their safety / getting a ticket is bad business .It's not the LIRR's fault that these customers don't come 5 or 10 minutes earlier. Too many people procrastinate too often and that's why they cut it too close. And most regular people use monthly passes. Your non-regular people are also more likely to get their earlier than the non-regular people. They could have told their customers to leave their houses earlier but instead they built drive through windows. Catching a train is not the same thing as buying a cup of coffee. You are not going to have to wait another 1/2 hour or an hour for the next cup of coffee to be served. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 14:49:33 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:45:16 2008. So you are saying the L.I.R.R should "care" about keeping thier trains on time so people can get to the station at the EXACT time its supposed to be there?Dont work that way sometimes, sorry get to the station sooner and no problem easy to put it on somebody else.. Rely on "self" frist... Dont expect anybody to do the right thing... Not saying it dont happen... Before i worked in RTO i rode the trains to work all the time, i knew that the 0552 out of Dyre was supoposed to arrive at Gun Hill Road in 4 or 5 minutes.. Guess what?? A few times it would get "pushed out" beacuse they had to bring in a put-in and bang the OPTO trains together so it would arrive a minute or two earlier.. Then you had to wait 11 Minutes for the 0603 and trust me those 12 minutes can mean a LOT if you are a Plumbers Apperentice you got a Tie-in to do the foreman dont want to hear jack.. Thats IF they didnt have any problems banging together those OPTO trains and if they did guess what the 0603 would get a "Skip" right past Gun Hill Road.. Guess what i did?? Left my house earlier problem fixed.. I "knew" what the Schedule said... What time the train go there somtimes was a different story.. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:49:57 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:36:25 2008. Exactly. If the line was grad seperated, they would just adjust and leave 5 minutes later than they used to leave before it was seperated. Procrastinators will always be procrastinaters. People who are late, are always late. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:50:45 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 14:07:32 2008. Yes, along with every other town along the railroad. Cedarhurst sickos just decide to video the trains and put them on youtube to wah wah wah. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:52:05 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 9 14:40:12 2008. Exactly. There's a reason the houses right up against the tracks are cheaper in any town. People buy them, and expect the same quality of life as those that paid more for the same houses further away. You can't have it both ways. The railroad was there long before ANYONE that lives there. |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:53:50 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Olog-hai on Wed Jan 9 14:41:27 2008. Cedarhusrt does indeed sound like it's populated with milennial whiners.They are. Cedarhurst probably comes up more than any other town with "LIRR" than any other Long Island town. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Wed Jan 9 14:54:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by AlM on Wed Jan 9 12:55:03 2008. Same here. |
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Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 9 14:55:30 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:52:05 2008. Not to mention being lazy as to walk to the station, rather than a 1/4 or 1/2 mile drive from a nice, quiet house to the LIRR station parking lot. All they would hear is a muted horn noise, only noticable when they step outside their house. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 15:00:23 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 9 14:55:30 2008. Know what i say NewKirk??Let Em Eat Cake... |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:32:16 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 14:48:13 2008. But let's say that such a coffee shop sees heavy patronage between 6 AM and 9 AM and very sparse patronage between 9 AM and 3 PM. So sparse, in fact that the coffee shop is closed at that time.Or an even better example. You sleep in late and in the process of preparing breakfast, you realize that a key element of your breakfast is missing, so you decide to eat at your favorite fast food restaurant, which is 10 minutes away. Once you leave, you realize that it's 10:52 AM, and that the fast food restaurant changes to its lunch menu at 11 AM. You arrive at the restaurant at 11:01 to see some customers at the tables eating breakfast, while another, walking away from the counter, has a burger and fries on his tray. You order a bacon, egg, and cheese bagel, only to be told that they've stopped serving breakfast. Waking up earlier would have prevented this, but the problem with making breakfast at home wasn't discovered until you woke up at the later time. Buying the required items on the way home the previous evening could have prevented this, but again, but the problem with making breakfast at home wasn't discovered until well after arriving. The conclusion: Leaving home earlier to catch a train could prevent missing the train, but there there are many unknown factors that can prevent an individual (or a group of individuals) from catching the train. |
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Posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 15:35:26 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 13:36:22 2008. I think Gibson has an overpass because it was the last stop on the old Rockaway Beach LIRR line. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 15:36:35 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:32:16 2008. The conclusion: Leaving home earlier to catch a train could prevent missing the train, but there there are many unknown factors that can prevent an individual (or a group of individuals) from catching the train.I can understand that so dont say its the railroad's fault then if you cant get up or sh**t happens then agreed? |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:39:07 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 14:49:33 2008. I'm saying that the LIRR should care about the safety and convenience of their customers. Where they have a scheduling issue, they should address the scheduling issue.They currently have (and apparently have had for quite some time) a scheduling issue that causes customers who have arrived on time for the 9:03 train to miss the 9:03 train. To me, that's a problem. The solution is either to adjust the schedule or to build an overpass. Adjusting the schedule is easier said than done. Moving either train by a minute or two just recreates the problem one station up or down the line. An interesting irony here is that the train Mitch is talking about has an absurdly long dwell time at Jamaica -- 5 minutes, longest in the system. So despite all the effort to be on time headed westbound (northeast) from Far Rock to Valley Stream, it then sits and waits for 5 minutes at Jamaica. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 9 15:41:25 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Mitch45 on Wed Jan 9 13:24:47 2008. No, Mitch, no excuses. And no whining.The "quirk" in the schedule at Cedarhurst may prevent quirks in the schedule in several other places. Did it occur to you that "fixing" Cedarhurst may screw up a lot of other points? Get to the station 5 minutes before the train is due. No excuses. Schedule the babysitter 15minutes in advance so he/she is still OK if hhe/she is late. You can also petition your elected officials to fund a pedestrian overpass. That would be worthwhile and great for safety. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 9 15:42:40 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:39:07 2008. The LIRR wants to rebuild the interlocking near Jamaica to increase approach and departure speeds. If that happens every train leaving Jamaica will benefit. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 15:45:18 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:39:07 2008. I'm saying that the LIRR should care about the safety and convenience of their customers.I can understand your point on the matter,they should. In a "prefect world" they would ... The world isnt "prefect" though unfortunately.. It looks like to me its not on the L.I.R.R's "list" of "things to do" then i guess. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:47:55 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 15:36:35 2008. I don't think anyone is saying it is the railroad's "fault".I'm saying that the railroad likely knows about this situation and has an opportunity to do something good for the convenience and safety of their customers. Building an overpass or underpass doesn't just serve the commuters on the 9:03 either. Given the set-up Mitch described, I expect that every train arriving during the PM rush has people crowded into the front car so that once the doors open they can dash to the end of the platform, duck under the gates and get to their car without having to wait for the train to start up and then clear the crossing. It happens at East Rockaway, Oceanside and Island Park on the Long Beach branch (which have similar configurations), so I can't imagine that it isn't happening at Cedarhurst. With an overpass at these stations, there would be no need for such behavior. |
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Posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:49:52 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by RonInBayside on Wed Jan 9 15:42:40 2008. I don't think the reason behind the 5 minute dwell on this train has to do with the interlocking speeds. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 15:50:43 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Charles G on Wed Jan 9 15:47:55 2008. With an overpass at these stations, there would be no need for such behavior.Agreed 110%.. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:55:12 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 15:36:35 2008. Not really, some of those "unknown factors" involve the railroad. The intended train may have left early. Or, as is the case here, a train on the same line (running in the opposite direction) has blocked access to the intended train, due to the fact that the crossing gates at both ends of the station are down. In a normal situation, if the blocking train was on time, it would have departed the station with just enough time to get to the proper platform for the intended train. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:59:59 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Wed Jan 9 14:55:30 2008. If you have to drive ¼ mile to get to the train station, that's lazier than walking 50 yards.A half mile is about a 10-minute walk. Since you're taking the train anyway, keep the car in the garage and walk to the train station. |
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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Jan 9 16:01:58 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:55:12 2008. Not really, some of those "unknown factors" involve the railroadSo Noted in this Post here |
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Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters |
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Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jan 9 16:08:31 2008, in response to Re: How the LIRR and Nassau PD Conspire Against Commuters, posted by R36 #9346 on Wed Jan 9 15:32:16 2008. But let's say that such a coffee shop sees heavy patronage between 6 AM and 9 AM and very sparse patronage between 9 AM and 3 PM. So sparse, in fact that the coffee shop is closed at that time.Huh? Or an even better example. You sleep in late and in the process of preparing breakfast, you realize that a key element of your breakfast is missing, so you decide to eat at your favorite fast food restaurant, which is 10 minutes away. Once you leave, you realize that it's 10:52 AM, and that the fast food restaurant changes to its lunch menu at 11 AM. You arrive at the restaurant at 11:01 to see some customers at the tables eating breakfast, while another, walking away from the counter, has a burger and fries on his tray. You order a bacon, egg, and cheese bagel, only to be told that they've stopped serving breakfast. Huh? Waking up earlier would have prevented this, but the problem with making breakfast at home wasn't discovered until you woke up at the later time So forgo breakfast and catch your train. I usually don't stop at places to get something if I know I only have a few minutes to get a train. Unfortunate? Yes, so pick up a donut at Penn Station for one day. Buying the required items on the way home the previous evening could have prevented this, but again, but the problem with making breakfast at home wasn't discovered until well after arriving. Most people know that most fast food places stop serving breakfast at 11:00. I don't get the relevence of this, but have a Big Mac then instead. The conclusion: Leaving home earlier to catch a train could prevent missing the train, but there there are many unknown factors that can prevent an individual (or a group of individuals) from catching the train. Of course, but the lateness for the train should be the anormality, not the normal occurance. Everyone has a bad day, so that day you just have to take a later train. That's not the LIRR's fault. |
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