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Posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 22 21:21:40 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 22 18:20:19 2007. Well it could. The (GG) route is ripe for automation. The north end is already cut off from the rest of the system. If the (F) would run express, (and the transfer from Lower Bergen restored) then the local tracks all the way into Church could also be isolated. It could be fully automated and could run on whatever frequency was convenient to the passengers.ROAR |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 22 21:29:56 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 22 21:17:37 2007. Let the blood be on your hands should NYCT rescind the policy of passengers having to be discharged from trains to be relayed the first time one of us gets assaulted while changing ends.Risk in any context will have to be taken into account. But NYCT personnel are subject to assault and worse while performing many functions, not just relaying. Moreover, if changing ends is the concern, that can be dealt with by a variety of measures, which you have dismissed without any consideration. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 22 21:37:47 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 22 21:29:56 2007. I am not going to get into another discourse about "fumigation". I've made my points a number of times before. I have dismissed nothing to consider in my prior posts made YEARS ago. If the perp pulls the cord to get attention, the t/o has to respond to reset the cord. I've made this point so many times in the past it's ridiculous. It is a stale topic on this board, except for the newbies. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 22 21:56:32 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 22 13:20:02 2007. How can yard and car wash operations occur if the yard leads and yard loop is used for passenger service? |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 22 22:05:34 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Dec 22 21:56:32 2007. God is in the details, and the details concededly remain to be worked out by further familiarity with the facts on the ground.Meanwhile, any suggestions you have for increasing peak service along the Queens Blvd corridor are, of course, welcomed. |
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Posted by error46146 on Sat Dec 22 22:46:53 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Broadway Lion on Sat Dec 22 21:21:40 2007. But then what does that have to do with the QB local having good reliable service like all the other lines? |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Dec 22 23:25:05 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by italianstallion on Sat Dec 22 19:23:00 2007. Supposedly, Citicorp was building an in-system transfer as part of their newly opened building there.I think YOU are correct. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sat Dec 22 23:42:41 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Dec 22 11:25:16 2007. How can a G line rider catch the R? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sat Dec 22 23:47:57 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by daDouce Man on Sat Dec 22 23:42:41 2007. By chasing it down the tunnel? 8-) |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 22 23:57:58 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Dec 22 11:54:08 2007. If the MTA wants to cut our service the least they can do is keep the amount of cars on the train same and give us a reasonable distance to walk for a transfer. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:03:48 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Osmosis Jones on Sat Dec 22 23:57:58 2007. But MTA is not cutting your service. MTA is increasing your service.Increasing frequency is just as good, if not better than adding cars. And Court Square has a moving sidewalk. If the moving sidewalk breaks down too often, that's a legit issue for complaint. Note that your transfer to from the A at 42nd St is "long" too. Nobody complains about that. Or how about the E to 6 transfer at 53rd St? |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 00:10:04 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:03:48 2007. Court Square has a single moving sidewalk. It isn't very useful if you aren't walking in the direction it is going in at a given moment. And they are eliminating through service from Court Square to Queens Boulevard. While it may be coupled with service improvements and such a change may be in the best interest of most riders, you cannot deny that a service is being discontinued. |
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Posted by daDouce Man on Sun Dec 23 00:16:46 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Dec 22 23:47:57 2007. Probably. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:26:36 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 22 15:22:48 2007. Is it possible that G trains would no longer operate out of Jamaica Yard after the service change, or that operations would be jointly operated out of Queens and Brooklyn?Heres a "possibility".. The George "changes" sections,and goes "South". |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:29:19 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Jackson Park B Train on Sat Dec 22 15:45:58 2007. Are you talking about "how things are" Califorina again?? |
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Posted by trains61 on Sun Dec 23 00:30:57 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 00:10:04 2007. Plus it goes against the logic they used for switching the R and N lines. They wanted each train to be attached to a yard. Now the G will have to run light to either C.I. YD. or Jamaica. Hypocrites.R train 24/7...I would hate to be the late night T/O to get that pick. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:35:41 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by LuchAAA on Sat Dec 22 14:13:10 2007. I can't vouch for employee relations, which have been bad in the past, but you're wrong about the passenger end of things. MTA in particular has been pretty good about responding to customer demand.As to making suggestions, Railman has some good points. I personally found that persistence patience and politeness have been great tools. I've not only had several suggestions implemented, but have received thoughtful replies and effective assistance when I needed it. What people often don't understand is that if your particular suggestion isn't implemented, it isn't automaticaly because MTA is blowing you off. If 10 other people are suggesting just the opposite, you're not likely to get it accomplished. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:38:41 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 00:10:04 2007. OK.The moving sidewalk helps a majority of riders in that it goes in the peak direction. I don't know if there's enough room to install a second one going in the opposite direction. Maybe there is. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:39:48 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trainsarefun on Sat Dec 22 22:05:34 2007. Meanwhile, any suggestions you have for increasing peak service along the Queens Blvd corridor are, of course, welcomed.Oh really? They hardly even listened to us before (R142's R143's R160's).. Think they are going to do it now?? Hey maybe im wrong... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:46:03 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trains61 on Sun Dec 23 00:30:57 2007. R train 24/7...I would hate to be the late night T/O to get that pick.You kidding?? It's that way now,during the Daytime.. They dont call it the "Slowmeo" for nothing... |
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Posted by trains61 on Sun Dec 23 00:55:23 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:46:03 2007. Ouch! Poor Folks. Any idea how many trips a shift? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:58:01 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trains61 on Sun Dec 23 00:55:23 2007. Most of the Jobs are Two Trips...After you are done it feels like you did four... |
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Posted by trainsarefun on Sun Dec 23 00:58:42 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:39:48 2007. Well, that's their mistake! You guys are the ones on the ground operating the trains, after all....At all events, I'm sure that some of us here would like to hear your input, even if the ears at Jay St have a tad too much wax buildup. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 23 01:01:01 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:35:41 2007. I know a TA employee who sent a suggestion to the Employee Suggestion Program and got a long response for something people thought would be blown off. The TA responded by explaining certain aspects of the signals and switches, which would make his idea impossible. You're correct. They do respond.But it's hard for some people to see TA as being open-minded, when there are work locations system-wide that always run out of toilet paper, soap, and hand towels for subway employees. Subway employees have to cram their lunch into a little household refrigerator while the guys in some barns and bus depots have big commercial refrigerators for their food. If an hourly "persistently" or "politely" tells a supervisor that his terminal runs out of hand towels, soap, or toilet paper by the PM tour, there is a chance the supervisor will see that employee as a complainer. Not all supervisors are like this, but most TA employees would rather stay off the radar screen, and not say a word. It's a very blue collar environment. You just don't talk these things out like you would in an office. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 01:01:40 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:38:41 2007. There isn't, which is why there is only one. |
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Posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 01:02:17 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by trains61 on Sun Dec 23 00:30:57 2007. No, not really. It isn't hard for the G to get to a yard under those cirucmstances. Is it a long put-in? Yes, but it is a direct one. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 23 01:07:24 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Russ on Sat Dec 22 11:00:53 2007. But I wouldn't be surprised if he voiced his opinions about it since cutting the G does affect Queens somewhat. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sun Dec 23 01:08:19 2007, in response to (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Kriston Lewis on Sat Dec 22 10:56:08 2007. So then does this mean the G will still run R46's or will they run R68/R160's if it is based from CI yard? |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 01:10:31 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 23 01:01:01 2007. Agreed, that's a culture thing, and it's very difficult to change. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:16:15 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Zman179 on Sat Dec 22 11:16:27 2007. Zero pull is right..If they did..they would have fought like hell to keep the TA from shitting on G RIDERS in '01..and kept our 6 car trains. |
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Posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 23 01:19:03 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 00:58:01 2007. Actually, it can be two trips, two relays, and a lay-up for most PM crews on the R. When you say two trips and leave the rest out, you minimize the hard work put out each day by employees. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:19:31 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sat Dec 22 11:54:08 2007. Damn Ron..You are so far up the MTA's butt..you can't see daylight. You even said the "service cuts" of 2004 was a service INCREASE.. GET OVER YOURSELF. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 01:20:34 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 01:01:40 2007. Thank you. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 01:20:58 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by LuchAAA on Sun Dec 23 01:19:03 2007. Actually, it can be two trips, two relays, and a lay-up for most PM crews on the R.Uggh two relays?? Remind me to NEVER pick that Line on the PM's.. Bad enough you gotta pound the road... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 01:21:08 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:19:31 2007. Stop bellyaching. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:22:40 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by WMATAGMOAGH on Sun Dec 23 00:10:04 2007. The moving sidewalk is crap..its mostly out of service when you need the damn thing.. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 01:24:28 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:22:40 2007. You're bellyaching...I'd bet a year's salary the sidewalk works a lot more often than you say. |
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Posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:25:26 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 00:38:41 2007. There isn't..and the "sidewalk" doesn't help jack... |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 01:26:43 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:25:26 2007. Is that your real name, Jack?Well, change your name to Edward and it'll work fine... |
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Posted by ntrainride on Sun Dec 23 02:49:07 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 01:21:08 2007. Ahhh, razzberries. You're a moxe. |
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Posted by R30A on Sun Dec 23 02:50:39 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Edwards! on Sun Dec 23 01:19:31 2007. I think youre the only one who calls the 2004 changes net service cuts, although you are certainly right that some things were cut that shouldnt have been.Otherwise, you are spot on. |
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Posted by RonInBayside on Sun Dec 23 02:50:49 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by ntrainride on Sun Dec 23 02:49:07 2007. I had strawberries and rhubarb tonight. |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Dec 23 04:24:53 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 01:20:58 2007. I had a job on the (R) once with ZERO relays, and a nice, long Lunch.But I think that was the only one. |
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Posted by MJF on Sun Dec 23 08:07:20 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Dec 23 04:24:53 2007. Lemme guess. It was a one-tripper. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 08:46:04 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Dec 23 04:24:53 2007. I had a job on the (R) once with ZERO relays, and a nice, long Lunch.But I think that was the only one. There are three Slowmeo jobs like that,on the PM's.. Only 1 of them is a One-Tripper which starts outta 95th and has a Lay-Up at the end.. The other one has one to 95th and one to Canal... The Other One is Two to 95th... |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 23 09:24:55 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 08:46:04 2007. I don't know why you're complaining about the R, I think that it's a whole heck of a lot easier than the D.I work the R all the time and I think that it gets a bad rap. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 09:32:53 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 23 09:24:55 2007. I don't know why you're complaining about the R, I think that it's a whole heck of a lot easier than the D.I work the R all the time and I think that it gets a bad rap. Unless the road Blows up ZMan im down to the Well and Back no problem i have learned to deal with 59th and Dekalb and Murphy i still get to where i have to go ontime.. To each is own my freind you know that.. NOW that November.... Heh i like that Line!!!! Only on the Weekdays though not scrapping the wall in Manhattan on the Weekends.. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 23 09:40:27 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 09:32:53 2007. Only on the Weekdays though not scrapping the wall in Manhattan on the Weekends..Dude, it's only four extra stops! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Dec 23 09:46:05 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by Zman179 on Sun Dec 23 09:40:27 2007. LOL i know....Its just me though but i couldnt get early PM's on the November on the weekends anyway you know that.. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sun Dec 23 10:50:42 2007, in response to Re: (G) cut from Queens Boulevard, posted by G1Ravage on Sat Dec 22 15:08:30 2007. Cut a V train in half. That's 2 additional trains right there. |
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