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R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007

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Its official December.2-30 the R1-9 Series Will start from queens plaza and 2ave on the V line on sundays 10:00am-5:00pm

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 29 23:11:58 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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Aw, nuts. :(

I was hoping for at least a different route each Sunday. :(

Where's the official announcement?

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:12:33 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 29 23:11:58 2007.

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Its on http://www.mta.info/nyct/service/events/nostalgia.htm

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 29 23:14:26 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:12:33 2007.

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Eh, nuts. :(

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by trainsarefun on Thu Nov 29 23:24:44 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:12:33 2007.

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I wonder why they're short-turning at Queens Plaza. Doing so would allow more trips, though, so that should maximize the classic train fun; although I wonder even if on Sunday timetables, there will be time for the switching operation.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Nov 29 23:31:53 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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FF
6TH AVENUE
QUEENS
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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Nov 29 23:24:44 2007.

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I am baffled as to how it can be done this Sunday with a deluge of Concourse D trains terminating at 2nd Avenue.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Kriston Lewis on Thu Nov 29 23:33:38 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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You had me at NYCS running on a Sunday.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by BMTLines on Thu Nov 29 23:41:06 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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DAMN!! - No outdoor photo ops :-(

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 29 23:45:40 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by BMTLines on Thu Nov 29 23:41:06 2007.

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Unless teh rain comes indoors....

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 29 23:46:11 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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Go, See & Report Back!

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by R42 4787 on Thu Nov 29 23:52:26 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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First V on a Sunday?

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by BenYankee on Fri Nov 30 00:01:52 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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The MTA also released the car information for any of you interested. They're running Car No. 100 (R1), Car No. 484 (R4) and Car No. 1575 (R10 prototype).


That's the info I got, at least, for Second Ave. Sagas.

Link

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 00:06:17 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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I love that it will be underground. I love taking underground shots! But I do wish there were some above ground opportunities for the rest of you. Oh well.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 30 00:11:33 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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I had figured that something like a northern terminal of 145th or 168th Sts would be used, with the vintage train going to World Trade Center. But for some reason, they will be sending the train to Queens. Or that if they send the train to Queens, the vintage train would between Astoria and Whitehall St, as does the W route.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Nov 30 00:15:58 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 00:06:17 2007.

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I love that it will be underground. I love taking underground shots!

Quoted for truth.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Nov 30 00:27:05 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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I think I know why they chose the V: Citicorp, Rockefeller Center, Bryant Park and Herald Square. All major hotspots for Christmas.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 30 00:30:08 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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That's a lot of running for an old train. I hope they keep the vandals off the train. The TA must have to make a lot of parts itself.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by italianstallion on Fri Nov 30 00:58:54 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Bee Flexible #823 on Fri Nov 30 00:27:05 2007.

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I'll V home for Christmas.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 05:49:16 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 30 00:30:08 2007.

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Ron... There's usually a lot of workers on the train to keep an eye on things.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 05:58:18 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by BenYankee on Fri Nov 30 00:01:52 2007.

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The Second Ave Sagas said:

"Among the cars included will be Car No. 100, an R1-type car that was the first of 300 placed in service when the IND opened 75 years ago; Car No. 484, an R4 car that was outfitted with a then-experimental public address system; and Car No. 1575, an original R7 that, after a wreck, served as the prototype to the R10."

My guess is that there will be the usual 6 cars.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 30 06:25:52 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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I am baffled as to how it can be done this Sunday with a deluge of Concourse D trains terminating at 2nd Avenue.

I will let you know..

Since i work on the Delta on the Weekends..



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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 30 06:30:07 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 05:49:16 2007.

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Exactly...

Not too hard just have to keep some railfans in check if they get out of hand thats all..

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Nov 30 06:55:20 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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Umm, it's only one train.

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Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue

Posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 07:05:15 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 05:58:18 2007.

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I just reworded the subject heading to make it easier for a non railfan to latch on to the thread. This post is still part of the original thread.

Does anyone know if they'll be starting from Queens Plaza or from 2nd Avenue?

I'm hoping that the first trip will come out of 2nd Avenue.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 07:08:44 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 30 06:25:52 2007.

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When will you be at 2 Av this Sunday?

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 08:47:55 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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'Deluge' might be too strong a word. When this same GO ran a few weekends ago, service on both legs of the D was considerably less frequent than usual.

Probably one inner track at 2nd Avenue for D layups and the other for V layups. This is one time when the 'overbuilt IND' is advantageous.

Of course, that means the vintage train can't take lengthy breaks between runs as it did back in September '04. The crew might have to take lunch at Queens Plaza instead of 2nd Avenue. Is that extra layup track just to the north of QP- the one on which 1979-2001 weekend/late night Gs were laid up- still there? Or was it removed in the wake up the 63rd Street connection?

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Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 08:49:42 2007, in response to Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue, posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 07:05:15 2007.

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These cars are usually stored at 207 or CIY, so it seems likely 2nd Avenue would be the starting point. Somehow it seems doubtful they would be stored at Jamaica, which is predoimately outdoors.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 08:52:50 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Nov 29 23:31:53 2007.

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That's exactly what I was going to suggest. The other destination sign would be Houston - 2nd Ave.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 08:53:43 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Nov 29 23:31:53 2007.

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That's exactly what I was going to suggest. The other destination sign would be Houston - 2nd Ave.

There's one sticking point - the R-1/9s don't have Queens Plaza signs.

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Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue

Posted by danny at 103rd street on Fri Nov 30 08:54:22 2007, in response to Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 08:49:42 2007.

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so is the R1-9 series will start at queens plaza?

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 08:54:46 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by heypaul on Fri Nov 30 05:58:18 2007.

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Maybe 1300 will make a token appearance.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 08:56:17 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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Give my regards to the museum train. Wish I could be there.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Nov 30 08:57:33 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 08:47:55 2007.

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The 5th track north of Queens Plaza is still there.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by GIS Man on Fri Nov 30 08:59:36 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Nilet on Thu Nov 29 23:11:58 2007.

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Since when does the (V) run on Sundays?

Bob

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 09:01:17 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 30 00:11:33 2007.

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There's probably too much traffic along the 8th Avenue/CPW corridor, whereas there's only one service through 53rd Tube on the weekends. The 5th/53rd Tower, normally dormant on weekends, will have to be open to accomodate the vintage train's movements between 6th and 53rd.



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Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 09:03:24 2007, in response to Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue, posted by danny at 103rd street on Fri Nov 30 08:54:22 2007.

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The implication made in my previous statement is that based upon past history of the vintage cars being stored at 207 or CIY, the set would more likely start at 2nd Avenue than Queens Plaza. Of course, I could be wrong. Wouldn't be the first time.:-}

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 09:08:03 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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Great combo, indeed: vintage trains and R40s on the rerouted Bronx/CPW D! Since at least one Slant ran on the upper D for this GO three weekends ago, it seems reasonable it would happen again.

Unfortunately, our time to railfan is limited this particular Sunday. It's nice to know the R1/9s will be around for the four weekends after that. But will the split D GO be in effect for additional weekends beyond this one?

Since you seem to be our expert ;-) on weekend GOs, I thought maybe you would know in advance.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 09:12:14 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by trainsarefun on Thu Nov 29 23:24:44 2007.

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While the relative briefness of the route is disappointing, it will at least improve the odds of catching the train itself. I experienced great difficulty and long waits for the 168-WTC and Continental-2nd Avenue special back in '04. The GC-Utica SMEE run that December was a tremendous exercise in frustration.

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Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue

Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 30 09:15:36 2007, in response to Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue, posted by Howard Fein on Fri Nov 30 09:03:24 2007.

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Well, when the R-1/9's were in service on the "F" line between Forest Hills and 2nd Avenue (via 63rd Street Line) in 2004, they started from the southern terminal point after they came down from 207th Street Yard. My guess that the train in use for these upcoming Sundays in December will start again on 2nd Avenue, probably discharge passengers at Queens Plaza to then relay on track D5 north of the station, and reverse back from there going southbound to 2nd Avenue.

-William A. Padron
["Jamaica-179th St."]


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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 30 09:30:34 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 08:54:46 2007.

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Probably not...#1300 was sent to the Transit Museum recently as a placeholder on display, while #100-484-1575 will be sent to active duty on those December Sundays on the IND 6th Avenue line. I heard that #1300 still has some operating riding issues that has yet to be resolved.

-William A. Padron
["Queens-6th Av. Lcl."...that's the "FF/V" as it would be!]


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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 09:54:04 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 30 09:30:34 2007.

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I can't wait to ride 1300 someday.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Fri Nov 30 10:02:01 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by South Ferry on Thu Nov 29 23:46:11 2007.

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I can't make it.

It would have to be on the 9th (the 16th I have something else planned and 23rd is also iffy).

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 30 10:23:29 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by trainsarefun on Fri Nov 30 00:11:33 2007.

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The shorter route lets more people see the train.
Besides 6th Avenue, not 8th Avenue is the Seasonal Shopping Avenue.

ROAR

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Broadway Lion on Fri Nov 30 10:25:36 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Newkirk Plaza David on Thu Nov 29 23:33:36 2007.

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The [FF] is not running on a schedule that it has to keep. It is one trainset and it can wait in the pocket as long as it needs to, and then pop out for another trip.

ROAR

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Nov 30 11:27:58 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Railman718 on Fri Nov 30 06:30:07 2007.

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LOL! True.

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Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 12:01:16 2007, in response to Re: 1932 Transit Museum Subway Cars Will Be Running on Sundays from Queens Plaza to 2nd Avenue, posted by William A. Padron on Fri Nov 30 09:15:36 2007.

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I wonder if the north motor will be signed, "Queens-Forest Hills." Or Special.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 12:01:53 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by Terrapin Station on Fri Nov 30 09:54:04 2007.

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I wonder how 1000 is coming along.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Nov 30 12:02:33 2007, in response to R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by danny at 103rd street on Thu Nov 29 23:08:42 2007.

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Maybe they'll have the Alpha and Omega cars of the fleet at the points.

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Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays

Posted by South Ferry on Fri Nov 30 13:16:21 2007, in response to Re: R9 series Runing on the V line sundays, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Nov 30 00:15:58 2007.

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Yep... especially when underground shots are what provide the most challenges for those "just joining" the picture snapping tendency.

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