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VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007 Enjoy! 
Regards, Trevor Logan TTMG |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Sep 29 00:23:41 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. Photo 2: LOL |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Sat Sep 29 00:35:26 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Sep 29 00:23:41 2007. Talk about confusing the customers. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by WillD on Sat Sep 29 01:07:41 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. What 2 cents? Doesn't that usually mean that an opinion is offered on the subject? I don't see any opinion offered here.Still, interesting photos of an interesting solution. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by PATHman on Sat Sep 29 01:11:17 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. The photos are nice but they mutilated these R62a's. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:17:50 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. I think they should just leave the bullet as the (7) on that 11-car train and not use the diamond 7 anymore. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat Sep 29 01:25:11 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by PATHman on Sat Sep 29 01:11:17 2007. IAWTP.Why was all this necessary?? Someone prolly sent in a customer report card thingie saying they weren't told if their train is LCL or EXP.... prolly cuz they wear an IPod and don't listen when on-board teh 7. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Sep 29 01:29:57 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. The front displays seem to be okay, but the side ones tend to be a bit harder to read as some of the "off" LEDs are partially illuminated by the "on" ones. Not good. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 01:32:12 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:17:50 2007. And if the car is needed on another line? (This assumes that you want to do away with the rollsign and put in a plastic board #7. These cars have been needed on the #4 from time to time to make score.) |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 01:33:00 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. This is called the MTA taking the cheap way out. The smart way would be to go with a full LED with local or express. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:37:08 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 01:32:12 2007. Don't you agree a "LCL diamond 7 Express" is ridiculous? |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:38:17 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 01:33:00 2007. I thought you liked saving money... |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 01:38:19 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by South Ferry on Sat Sep 29 01:25:11 2007. Well at least this way they won't need to swap out the R142A's for the R62A's just so that riders can see which 7 is local or express as well as buying additional B-cars to make 11-car sets. Not to mention the waste of time and energy to swap 2 entire fleets via B division.If anything, the R62A's should die on the 7 then the MTA should buy 60' long cars that is an IRT version of the R160's. The 7 is isolated from the ML and it should stay isolated. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by South Ferry on Sat Sep 29 01:42:34 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 01:32:12 2007. Teh 2100 cars also serve teh 1.... o noes!! Its like they took one of our children and pierced their eyebrows.. >:P |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 01:47:47 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 01:32:12 2007. Keep the rollsign and rather than use the diamond, just use only the circle and light up the lcl or exp sign. Simple as that. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by JBar387 on Sat Sep 29 02:46:39 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. Excellent! |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Sep 29 08:33:19 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by South Ferry on Sat Sep 29 01:25:11 2007. Exactly. You can see a half mile away by virtue of the diamond what the train is. You can see the word express before the train hits the platform and see a red blur until the train passes your point not taking into consideration back lighting situations. A waste of manpower, money and resources. My guess is they want to eliminate platform conductors at Willets and Main St, if they haven't already done so and this is their brilliant idea to do so by eliminating the cranking |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Sep 29 08:43:49 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by BLE-NIMX on Sat Sep 29 08:33:19 2007. "My guess is they want to eliminate platform conductors at Willets and Main St, if they haven't already done so and this is their brilliant idea to do so by eliminating the cranking"You know what? The more i "look" at these posts the more i can see it happening.. I know one of the Platform C/R's at Main Street he says he may be retiring this year.. They have 2 "regular" Platfrom Jobs at Main St One AM and One PM, the Ones at Main St work Willets Point as well. As well as Two at Times Square One AM and One PM.. Once hes gone there goes ONE platfrom job.. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 10:46:46 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:38:17 2007. A full LED does save money, however. The initial cost of an LED is more, but for these cars, you can probably run it through the rest of the life without replacement. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 10:47:09 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:37:08 2007. A partial LED is. A full LED isn't. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 10:48:08 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by JBar387 on Sat Sep 29 02:46:39 2007. Photos yes. The idea...not so much. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by AMoreira81 on Sat Sep 29 10:58:59 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by mr_brian on Sat Sep 29 01:38:17 2007. This very thing was discussed in the chat last night...where Europeans hate LEDs for the front...something not seen in the northeastern US since 1990 for any agency not named the CDTA---demanding rollsigns for new equipment. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Sep 29 12:05:54 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 01:38:19 2007. It wont happen for the signage now. It will happen for the CBTC! |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sat Sep 29 13:54:47 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 01:47:47 2007. Or keep the diamond just for the front and leave all others on circle.Although, I would hate to see the side-signs replaced with Franklin Shuttle-style plastic boards since those R62 rollsigns are the coolest! |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sat Sep 29 13:58:42 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Sep 29 01:29:57 2007. What else is new; they probably got the cheapest 2 cent LEDs avalible. They should have gotten duel-colored LEDs, green for local, red for express. That would have really made telling them apart easy. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:00:24 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by R30A on Sat Sep 29 12:05:54 2007. What will happen? I'm asking can the MTA get specially designed 60' trains just for the 7. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:35:59 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Broadway Buffer on Sat Sep 29 13:54:47 2007. No there will be a need for the side-signs for specific destinations like Willets Pt or Main St.-Flushing. Just leave the bullet on the circle 7 and no local or express designation below it.And nope, just have the front of every train just use the circle and have the lights on the front display lcl or exp since the train can be changed from local to express at QBP depending on the situation. Also it is easier to flip a switch rather than to manually crank the sign back to circle from diamond or vice versa. |
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Posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Sep 29 21:19:45 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. What about when the 7 local terminates at 111 St or kicks everyone off at Willets Point without prior warning; there should be an LED sign for that to.Also the front sign should have the back light shut of since it makes the LED less noticable. I can barely see it with the word "Express" lit up in the second picture. But if they like to change the trains from express from local at QBP at the last minute, noone will be satisfied.... |
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Posted by DCmetrogreen on Sat Sep 29 21:32:50 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:00:24 2007. 60' cars are too long to fit through the tunnel under the East River and in Mahattan. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 21:40:37 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by DCmetrogreen on Sat Sep 29 21:32:50 2007. I thought the problem was just being too wide? Damn, I still say a 10-car 600' train is what the 7 needs either that or make the 7 12-car trains and extend all the platforms. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sat Sep 29 21:52:09 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by 7trainkrys on Sat Sep 29 21:19:45 2007. They need to be bigger. You can't see them until they are up on you. |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 21:57:43 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Ian Lennon on Sat Sep 29 21:52:09 2007. Ok, so why not have a large L and a large E then? :-) |
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Posted by Ian Lennon on Sat Sep 29 21:59:25 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 21:57:43 2007. Even the LOC, EXP are fine. It wouldn't be too hard to make them a little bit larger. There is more than enough space above the bullet. |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Sep 29 22:02:58 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:00:24 2007. The 7 will get R142 type cars in 11 car consists. That has been on the books for years. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 22:09:33 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by R30A on Sat Sep 29 22:02:58 2007. :sigh: I was hoping if these experimental signs worked then there wouldn't be a need to swap out entire fleets [6's for the 7's]. Otoh I wonder if they would link those R62A singles into 5-car units? |
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Posted by R30A on Sat Sep 29 22:11:32 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 22:09:33 2007. The reason for the R142/As to go to the 7 has nothing to do with signage.R62As cant use CBTC. R142s can be made to(more easily... R62s COULD, it just would be harder.) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sat Sep 29 23:19:21 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:35:59 2007. From the looks of those photos, it might help to have the additional diamond front bullet if possible. But assuming they take your idea, will that mean a new map will have to be issued eliminating the 7 diamond? And if that happens will the 6 also cease use of the diamond express since it would then be on its own? |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 23:31:05 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Broadway Buffer on Sat Sep 29 23:19:21 2007. The 6 has digital signs so at the flip of the switch it can be the circle or diamond. For the 7 the sign/bullet has to be manually changed. By leaving it a circle all they would need to do is light up the lcl or exp sign. They can still use the circle or diamond. Only thing is that this way only the signs will matter rather than the shape. Since a diamond can still be on the local and vice versa.So in short no need to change the map. And use only the circle bullet. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Sat Sep 29 23:34:26 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 21:40:37 2007. I know that this is currently not possible but, when cbtc is fully operational can they add capasity buy adding an additional car that partally platforms.yes this will slower loading and unloading possibly increasing dwell times, but will add some breathing room for passengers |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 23:43:26 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by brightonr68 on Sat Sep 29 23:34:26 2007. 12' is what keeps the 7 from adding a 12th car. Plus a 12-car train will make things better in terms of capacity and I think it could maintain a slightly better loading/unloading dwell times due to having another 3 sets of doors for riders to move in and out of. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 23:46:00 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 23:43:26 2007. Also not to mention it would be easier if the R142A's are brought over by just tacking on a B car to every 5-car sets. |
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Posted by brightonr68 on Sun Sep 30 00:05:17 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 23:43:26 2007. That would mean 6 feet feet at the begining of the train and 6 foot at the end of the train not platforming. That would not be bad. We will have to wait until CBTC is implimented thoughInstall platform camera's and allow the train operator up front to control the doors. It is time the MTA utilizes available technology to increase effecency |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 15:20:45 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Sep 29 01:29:57 2007. I don't think they're partially illuminated, because LEDs are fairly binary in their on/off states. More likely it's a combination of the 1/15th exposure time combined with the interior light reflecting off the unilluminated LEDs. |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 16:58:47 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Grand concourse on Sat Sep 29 18:00:24 2007. I'm asking can the MTA get specially designed 60' trains just for the 7.Been there done that. The TA already experimented with a "stretch" 60ft car. It was an old R-12 numbered XC-875. It was much like the arnine XC-575 with the steel beams in the middle that added length to the ends. I don't know if it was ever tested or not but I saw the beast myself in the scrap line at NYCH yard at 1st Ave in the early 1980's. So I guess the experiment died. Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sun Sep 30 17:10:59 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 15:20:45 2007. I should have worded my response more clearly; I meant to say that they were reflecting light from the LEDs that were illuminated, making the sign harder to read. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 17:11:07 2007, in response to VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by rionOne on Sat Sep 29 00:12:06 2007. Why don't they eliminate the side number bullet sign with a large square LED display anyway. The dedicated cars are already wired for it. And in the front, keep the roll sign but install a longer LED display underneath the rollsign. the glass is already blacked out so there is room for something.I guess the early MTA wasn't thinking in 1968 when the R-40Ms were the first rolling stock not to have EXP - LOCAL signs on the front. Now they're scrambling to correct their mistake on the #7 line Bill "Newkirk" |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 17:14:03 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Newkirk Images on Sun Sep 30 17:11:07 2007. I guess it would be far too much of a pain in the butt to use that (11) sign which is already the right color and convince Queens that they're special. :) |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Sep 30 18:06:57 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 17:14:03 2007. 7/11! Could use it I suppose, but it wouldn't solve the problem which is changing to the correct signage for exp or lcl without taking the time to flip through a rollsign. It looks like this is the best way to do it without swapping fleets, but hopefully the illumination problems won't be an issue with what look like cheap signs. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 30 18:18:32 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Broadway Buffer on Sun Sep 30 18:06:57 2007. How much ya bet they didn't do that out of some silly fear of trademark infringement? :)And hate to break it, but even back in the Identra days, the conductor's job on that line was always to yell out to the assembled hordes, "this is an EXPRESS." Heh. Despite all that tech, nothing changes. Sheesh. |
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Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents) |
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Posted by WillD on Sun Sep 30 18:34:00 2007, in response to Re: VIDEO & PHOTOS: Bomb R-62A with LED/LCD Signs (My 2 Cents), posted by Ian Lennon on Sat Sep 29 21:59:25 2007. I would be interested to see what they look like when set up for express service and the appropriate LED is illuminated. If the "EXP" appears on the other LED display on the opposite side of the bullet then they could easily function as marker lights, such that it wouldn't matter how unreadable the display was for regular riders. All a regular rider of the 7 Express standing somewhere between TSQ and Queensboro Plaza would have to do is see if the left or right display were illuminated, not whether it said EXP or LCL. If, on the other hand, the "EXP" reading appears on the same LED display then there'd be a problem created by the lack of readability of those small LED displays. |
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