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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Christopher Rivera on Fri Sep 28 09:22:40 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Ive never in my entire life seen that! I didn't know they could do that, awesome find. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 09:34:16 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Christopher Rivera on Fri Sep 28 09:22:40 2007. I've never in my entire life seen that!That's because it's a recent addition. This is the only train of R62A cars I know of that can do this. They might just be testing this to see if it works before rolling it out to the rest of the fleet. I haven't seen anything like this since the D types. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 28 10:32:44 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Leave it to the TA to come up with something approaching the least economical solution. There are approximately 407 cars and 37 trainsets cars assigned to the Flushing Line, including spares. 31 trainsets are required for peak operation. That means installing approximately 1000 signs on the cars.Local/Express signs are needed at only the 7 stations from Times Square to Queensboro Plaza. Placing 11 signs on each platform (overkill) would involve only 77 signs. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Fytton on Fri Sep 28 10:39:18 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 28 10:32:44 2007. 'There are approximately 407 cars and 37 trainsets cars assigned to the Flushing Line, including spares. 31 trainsets are required for peak operation. That means installing approximately 1000 signs on the cars.''Local/Express signs are needed at only the 7 stations from Times Square to Queensboro Plaza. Placing 11 signs on each platform (overkill) would involve only 77 signs.' Of course, well-organised transit operations have informative destination information *both* on the trains *and* on the platforms. And still the stupid geese ask each other 'Is this the train to xxx?' |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 10:47:07 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 28 10:32:44 2007. Sure, it may take fewer signs if they were installed on the platform, but one must also consider what system would be used to communicate to the people on the platform which service the train arriving is going to run. Punch boxes? Restoring the Identra system and fitting the R62A cars with loop brackets? Perhaps installing up to 4 LED displays in each car is less expensive than installing 28 to 77 signs in the stations between Times Square and Queensboro Plaza. With the declining cost of LED displays, they probably thought this was the best way to go. I'm not sure what technical modifications needed to be done with the cars (besides what everyone can see) to make this work, but at least it's better than the lead car saying it's something, and the next few cars saying it's something else. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 10:47:30 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Stephen Bauman on Fri Sep 28 10:32:44 2007. Sure, it may take fewer signs if they were installed on the platform, but one must also consider what system would be used to communicate to the people on the platform which service the train arriving is going to run. Punch boxes? Restoring the Identra system and fitting the R62A cars with loop brackets? Perhaps installing up to 8 LED displays in each car is less expensive than installing 28 to 77 signs in the stations between Times Square and Queensboro Plaza. With the declining cost of LED displays, they probably thought this was the best way to go. I'm not sure what technical modifications needed to be done with the cars (besides what everyone can see) to make this work, but at least it's better than the lead car saying it's something, and the next few cars saying it's something else. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 10:52:46 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Fytton on Fri Sep 28 10:39:18 2007. It's not so much the destination. Almost all the trains run to Main Street. It's the service they provide along the way (local vs. express) which causes the most confusion. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Fytton on Fri Sep 28 10:54:14 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 10:52:46 2007. 'It's not so much the destination. Almost all the trains run to Main Street.'By 'destination information' I meant information about what intermediate stations are served, as well as the final destination. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:09:27 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. That looks AWFUL. Why not simply retrofit the R62A's assigned to Corona with real digital signs? This seems like a cheap answer. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 11:10:26 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:09:27 2007. This seems like a cheap answer.That's probably why they did it that way. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Fri Sep 28 11:10:34 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Hey, that looks cool! |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:14:23 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 10:52:46 2007. That problem can be solved with station signage and platform signage indicating what the arriving train will do. Unfortunatley, a growing number of #7 riders can't read or understand basic English. One day, the MTA will just install Spanish signage on this line. And when the R142's get there, Spanish announcements. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 11:17:39 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Mysterious Friday 1986 on Fri Sep 28 11:10:34 2007. You should have seen it when I first saw it going around the curve into Queensboro Plaza. Each car had this mysterious red glow in the rollsign area. At first it kinda looked like some red light reflecting off the windows, but as the train came closer, I noticed the LED display in the rollsign area, and proceeded to take pictures. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 28 11:18:18 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:09:27 2007. Thats a really expensive answer and a phucking waste of money. So would going all digital. The cab switches are probably wired to a dedicated trainline wire too for making all cars do that like destination side signs did. Everybody knew which service they were getting until they stopped using markers and end sign lights. Whats wrong with cranking to the square or circle 7 instead? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 11:26:48 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 28 11:18:18 2007. Everybody knew which service they were getting until they stopped using markers and end sign lights.In other words, after 20 years of service, they finally corrected that design flaw. I would think that had they known all the confusion the loss of these elements would have caused, they probably would have ordered extra B cars in the R142/A order and put them in service on the 7 line, instead of all of them being stuck on the IRT mainline. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:37:46 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by BLE-NIMX on Fri Sep 28 11:18:18 2007. Then the real answer is obvious: swap out the R62A's for R142's. Swapping cars with the #2 line would make the most sense, it's cars never need differing signage since it runs the same day in and day out (except for a few rush hour runs to/from New Lots). |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 28 12:06:53 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:37:46 2007. A couple of points:1) The newest cars on the #2 and #5 lines are often interchanged with the other, meaning that cars where the permanent map says it is a #2 train is traveling along the #5 route, and vice-versa. This happens often enough. Neither fleet is truly "dedicated" to themselves. 2) A single sign of some type along the platform is really not as helpful as it seems. One each of the riders would have to be able to see that sign from where-ever they happen to be. Most riders do not walk along the platforms looking for signs that are not nearby, they often look at the signage on the trains. 3) The bullet and diamond versions of the #7 train sign at the front of the train - turned out to be that helpful when I'm told that #7 trains that were to be local turned into express, or vice-versa. 4) I'm told that the determination is often made on the fly at Queensborough Plaza. The LED signs at least offer a quick way of spreading that determination throughout the cars in a way that the front signs can not. Just a few thoughts. Mike |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 12:11:48 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 28 12:06:53 2007. At least, eventually, we won't be needing to hear conductors yelling, EXPRESS! EXPRESS! EXPRESS! |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 28 12:26:43 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Ah, good to see they finally rolled it out.This is only a test. If it's successful, it may be retrofitted onto the other cars as well. Time will tell. The signs are set by the C/R, using the already existing "ENRCON" swtich in the cab, which coincidentally, is already labeled "LOCAL" and "EXPRESS". |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by South Ferry on Fri Sep 28 12:29:54 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:09:27 2007. & they're using a set from teh 1 line to test it out.... teh awful!!!!! |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by (3) Livonia Ave. Local on Fri Sep 28 12:30:46 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Well, good to see a slight technological advance on those R62As. That's cool. Maybe it should spread to the other cars. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 12:31:26 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 28 12:26:43 2007. In other words, the energy conservation switch no longer performs its original purpose?I guess that since it's only one train that's doing this, I was just at the right place at the right time. Good thing I always carry my camera with me. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Sep 28 12:38:28 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 12:31:26 2007. The ENRCON switches have been deactivated for the longest time. None of them do anything anymore. A lot of the cars don't even have the switches anymore. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R42 4787 on Fri Sep 28 12:54:19 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Tacky but better than nothing. Does remind me of the "LOCAL" (Blue) and "EXP" (Red) indicators on the front of the R36.What next? INDENTRA? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Fri Sep 28 13:06:38 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 12:11:48 2007. Yes you will. Just like when I pull up with the bus, and people say "Is this a Bx6", when the signs indicates so, and there are VERY FEW universal stops the Bx6 shares. As a matter of fact Edgecombe S/E is the only one in Manhattan, and the Bx13 S/E at Ogden Ave in Da Boogie Down. That is it. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Sep 28 13:50:54 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 28 12:06:53 2007. Point 1 comment: Blame the dispatchers at the terminals that constantly move trains from one line to the other without thinking. I have witnessed this @ Flatbush. A 2 line train will come in & they make it a 5 when the next train in is a 5 set that ends up on the 2. The dispatchers must have a better knowledge of what trains are waiting to come into their terminals. They used to ask, train behind ?? ball identify yourself for --- terminal or put a punch @ Newkirk & then Flatbush will know what`s comming in next. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 28 15:41:21 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R42 4787 on Fri Sep 28 12:54:19 2007. The indicators on the R-36s were GREEN for the local and red fro the express. Since LEDs have that capability maybe the same color system should be used for the indicators on the R-62As as well. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 16:15:05 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Michael549 on Fri Sep 28 12:06:53 2007. Then swap cars with the #4 or #6 line. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:23:13 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 16:15:05 2007. The #6 line has the same "problem" as the #7, but showing "EXP" south of 125th St might cause a bit of confusion for the Manhattanites who don't give a care about anything outside Manhattan. It might work with the 4, though. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 16:29:21 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Mr. D - Type on Fri Sep 28 13:50:54 2007. On Wednesday, my 5 train was held at the station [2 train just left and another pulled in] I figure my 5 will leave soon, but nope the 2 that just pulled in left b4 my 5 train did. |
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DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:33:58 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. This afternoon, I spotted them hanging out on Track 13 of Corona Yard. The end sign consists of two three-character, 16-segment LED displays.  The side sign can show either LCL or EXP. The 16-segment LED's between cars are lit as well.  Another shot of the 16-segment LED displays. It is not known what color lights the other 16-seg possesses, but it is assumed to be red, like the LCL one. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 16:34:37 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 16:15:05 2007. Who cares, the ppl aren't going to stop asking if the train is an express or not, the R142/A's will not make a big difference for the 7 [not to mention a waste of $ to buy more B cars to make 11-car sets]. |
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Re: DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 16:38:05 2007, in response to DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:33:58 2007. One question, did they arrange those 6 single cars together due to being 'consecutive' numbers or they were already a 6-car set? Also why aren't they 2150-55 in that order? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by metropod on Fri Sep 28 16:40:41 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 12:11:48 2007. I was on an N yesterday at lexington, A woman comes up and holds the door open asking if the train was going to queens. It was an R160, so she had "This is a queens bound N train, the next stop is Queens boro plaza" and she was right next to the external destination sign, and right above her was the station information boards telling you what goes where. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by randyo on Fri Sep 28 16:41:49 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:23:13 2007. But S/O 125 St, the crew can change the sign to local on S/B trips. As for N/B trips, there should be no confusion since the normal operation calls for all #6s to run local S/O 125 St anyhow. Also since the service is a sort of hybrid, the switch could be modified so that it reads "Local Express" the way the original R-17 signs did. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 16:45:56 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. It's a nice effort but it looks tacky. |
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Re: DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:47:05 2007, in response to Re: DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 16:38:05 2007. Maybe they're pairs. Maybe they just wanted a consecutive range. I'm not sure. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:57:55 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 16:45:56 2007. Do you have any suggestions to make it not look tacky? |
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Re: DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 17:35:18 2007, in response to Re: DAYTIME Photos! Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 16:47:05 2007. ok, cuz i assume 52-53 went thru the loop otherwise it would've been consecutive 50-55.But aside from that I guess it was they wanted the consecutive range that those 6 were chosen? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Lord Vader on Fri Sep 28 17:47:16 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. If folks riding the 7 cannot distinguish between the local/exp services with the circle and diamond, that's sad and the station signage is clear as day. No more excuses if no speaka inglish. I may be hispanic and some of my relatives after being in NYC for a million years still can't speak or read english, it's become a real peeve for me. But at least we have a multi-lingual map which can sort of explain the service. Imagine this:Este es el tren siete hasta la Calle Main. La proxima parada es, la Calle Noventa y la Avenida Elmhurst. Tengan quidado de las puertas cierando! Lord Vader |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 17:51:23 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by metropod on Fri Sep 28 16:40:41 2007. Which goes to show ppl are too stupid to look at the damn signs. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 18:22:40 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by metropod on Fri Sep 28 16:40:41 2007. In her defense the digital signs aren't always 100% correct. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Mr Mabstoa on Fri Sep 28 18:38:08 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Nice. Guess with electronics the signs aren't expensive at all in bulk and maybe can be done by the department on thier own.Its a whole different subject but when the R40 slants were re-built the local/express signs were removed. Seems as if the simple things work better. Who controls changing the signs, just the conductor or can the T/O do it also? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 18:45:41 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Lord Vader on Fri Sep 28 17:47:16 2007. The problem is that the C/R's are often too lazy to set all of the signs. The signs on the front and sides often contradict each other. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Sep 28 18:46:50 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 18:45:41 2007. Laziness?Do you think that perhaps there might not be enough time at the terminals for the C/R to go through all the cars and set the signs? |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by JBar387 on Fri Sep 28 18:52:01 2007, in response to A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 07:32:16 2007. Nice, I do recall they tried this on a pair of R-36WF's replacing the head Exp/Local signs with something close. I can't remember the car number but it was ony one pair. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by Grand concourse on Fri Sep 28 19:07:24 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Fri Sep 28 11:14:23 2007. That would not be fair for the Chinese/Korean riders. Just leave it as english and use the pamphlets if they can't understand english. No more pandering. |
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Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line |
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Posted by 3440 on Fri Sep 28 19:27:53 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by PATHman on Fri Sep 28 16:45:56 2007. I agree...people couldn't understand the other signs on the trains?,because I don't think people could understand the new sign.BJC |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Fri Sep 28 19:38:06 2007, in response to Re: A Set of R62A's Try to Answer an Age-old Question on the 7 Line, posted by The Port of Authority on Fri Sep 28 18:46:50 2007. IAWTP. I wouldn't chalk it up to laziness. During the PM rush, trains are in and out of Times Square in two minutes. If all the signs on the train say Local, and the train winds up on Track 2 at Times Square (which is the usual track Express trains leave from), the new train crew can't go through all 11 cars and change all the signs to Express and have the train ready to leave in two minutes. That's 33 signs they have to change! |
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