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1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Sep 13 00:46:47 2007

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A blast from the past...



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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 13 02:37:25 2007, in response to 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by ntrainride on Thu Sep 13 00:46:47 2007.

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Hehe, New York to Back Bay in 3 hours & 55 minutes!

My friend's grandmother worked at Gilbert, painting those trains.

Did you know that A.C. Gilbert got the idea for the Erector Set from the catenary towers on the NY NH & H?

Very cool, thanks for posting that.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 13 02:51:36 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 13 02:37:25 2007.

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Did you know that A.C. Gilbert got the idea for the Erector Set from the catenary towers on the NY NH & H?

Heh. Sure it wasn't the other way around? =)

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 13 05:34:05 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 13 02:51:36 2007.

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Haha, could be but I read that he was riding and got inspired. That's more than I get looking outta the back of an M4. Perspired more like.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Sep 13 10:43:06 2007, in response to 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by ntrainride on Thu Sep 13 00:46:47 2007.

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I got my first train set - which was American Flyer - in 1954 for my 5th bithday! How I wish I still had those trains :-(

I think my mother thew them out (along with all my old comics and baseball cards) when I was in college.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Broadway Lion on Thu Sep 13 11:27:04 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Sep 13 10:43:06 2007.

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Well, at least Dad kept our American Flyers... passed them down to the Grand Children, but me thinks they are all gone now.

ROAR

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by ntrainride on Thu Sep 13 22:56:17 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Sep 13 10:43:06 2007.

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I just hope boys nowadays are as willing to use their imaginations. Though I kind of doubt most kids are playing with trains anymore. I'd have to say that computers and the web and video games are what slot car sets and train sets and tape recorders were when I was a kid. (and microscopes...I remember I got an optical "video display" microscope one year.)

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 14 06:45:49 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by ntrainride on Thu Sep 13 22:56:17 2007.

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Hehe, I loved the chemistry set :D I had a Lionel trainset myself.

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 11:18:55 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 14 06:45:49 2007.

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My chemistry set had Flowers of Sulphur, Potassium Nitrate and Carbon Powder in it. Do you think they would sell that now?

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 14 11:30:12 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 11:18:55 2007.

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No way, you probably get a vial of vinegar and a can of baking soda. Have fun!

your pal,
Fred

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 11:37:14 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Fred G on Fri Sep 14 11:30:12 2007.

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Done that one too. The result is a very messy, bad-smelling foam.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by RonInBayside on Fri Sep 14 12:48:57 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 11:37:14 2007.

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LOL!

When I was a kid, we used to make grenades from old plastic soda bottles. You fill it half-way with vinegar; add a layer of vegetable oil, then dump baking soda gently on top. The oil keeps the two reagents separated for a while. Close the top, shake it vigorously, then toss...

Seriously, though, it'smy understanding chemistry sets today mirror what's going on in the classroom - much smaller quantities of chemicals to demonstrate principles of reaction, smaller containers, finer measurements.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 13:08:50 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by RonInBayside on Fri Sep 14 12:48:57 2007.

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When I was a kid, we used to make grenades from old plastic soda bottles.

PETE soda bottles didn’t come along until later. We had heavy, reusable (and reused, there was a deposit!) bottles, with screw stoppers, that were also returned and reused.

Thank God, we didn’t try those as grenades!

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Dave on Fri Sep 14 15:34:09 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 13:08:50 2007.

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Do as you oughta,
Add acid to wawtah!

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by JohnL on Fri Sep 14 15:44:26 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 14 15:34:09 2007.

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Or: pour conc Hydrochloric down the lab sink. Then pour ammonia. Admire white fumes.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by E Line Fan on Sun Sep 16 03:02:14 2007, in response to 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by ntrainride on Thu Sep 13 00:46:47 2007.

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Cool! It's always fun looking at American Flyer S Gauge catalogs from the 1950's. They were innovative with their two rail track.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 03:06:07 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by E Line Fan on Sun Sep 16 03:02:14 2007.

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They were nice scale models but were tempramental runners.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by E Line Fan on Sun Sep 16 03:09:16 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Sep 13 10:43:06 2007.

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Gotta like the 1972 and 1975 Topps sets and the Tyco HO gauge train sets. :)

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 04:24:19 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 03:06:07 2007.

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And not to diss American Flyer - most of my friends had them and they were extremely neat. But ONE thing you couldn't do was looping a run back on itself in the opposite direction through a switch onto a single track without melting the transformer or popping the fuse. :(

But most of their trains looked a LOT better than Lionel.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 09:23:05 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 04:24:19 2007.

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You need a relay to control the reverse loop. This is a problem with ALL 2-rail electric trains.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 09:24:53 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 09:23:05 2007.

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Gilbert offered two different reverse loop relays, one of which I have.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 09:26:25 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 04:24:19 2007.

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I'm a Flyer guy through and through. My folks knew I'd never go for three-rail track, so they bought me a low-proced Flyer set for my fifth birthday. I still have it in the original set box and it still runs.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 09:32:50 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 09:24:53 2007.

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Yup. Their New Haven EP-5 is the finest "tinplate" version of an electric type locomotive.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 09:43:19 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 09:32:50 2007.

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http://www.geocities.com/theupstairstrain/engines-EP-5-Electric.html

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 15:40:05 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Sep 13 02:51:36 2007.

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Hey Kev, dod you know that Gilbert offered an accessory called a Cow on Track? It's a fact.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 15:43:24 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 09:32:50 2007.

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That's my personal favorite loco, too. I have a whole fleet of them, not just one or two: 499s with and without rivet holes; shiny 21573s, dull finish 21573s.

I am heavily into New Haven passenger and diesel rolling stock. Oh and I have at least one of each 4-6-2 Hew Haven Pacific with feedwater heater.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 15:44:33 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Fred G on Thu Sep 13 02:37:25 2007.

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That's interesting. You friend's grandmother may very well have painted some of the cars I have.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 19:18:47 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 09:26:25 2007.

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Big Ed is also a Flyer man ... when I went back to model trains, went N gauge and that meant Kato because most of the N gauge stuff is twuwy qwap.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 19:56:45 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 19:18:47 2007.

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Yes, he is. He's built quite a bit from scratch and runs his trains on DC. I've stuck with AC.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 19:59:26 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 19:56:45 2007.

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Early Flyer S gauge trains ran on DC.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 20:03:59 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 19:56:45 2007.

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I've watched him at his hunting and gathering and kitbashing. You don't want to know what he does with the carbodies, he only wants the chassis. Heh. I've got one of his Reading #630 cabeese bodies here where he snipped it right off the chassis and dumped it in the trash can. Heh.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by E Line Fan on Mon Sep 17 02:58:00 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Sep 16 20:03:59 2007.

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Is Mr. Davis, Sr. still modeling transit?

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Mon Sep 17 03:25:37 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by E Line Fan on Mon Sep 17 02:58:00 2007.

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Heh. Busier than a one-legged kickboxer lately. His most recent work includes some really nice NYC MU's, more gate cars and of course more redbirds and little buildings. :)

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Mon Sep 17 09:09:56 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by BIE on Sun Sep 16 19:59:26 2007.

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Gilbert experimented with DC propulsion in the late 40s. Only Northerns and Nickel Plate switchers ever had DC motors, though.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by BIE on Mon Sep 17 19:35:44 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Sep 16 15:43:24 2007.

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Do you have any NH PAs

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Tue Sep 18 08:25:01 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by BIE on Mon Sep 17 19:35:44 2007.

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Sure do: three or four pairs of 494-495s, two or three 497s (both single and dual riveted steps) and four 21561s (two with molded steps, one with single rivet steps and one with two rivet steps).

Each of the engines is part of at least one boxed set that they came with. I assembled a Hot Shot freight set to go along with one of the 494-495 pairs.

That goes for the NH Electrics, too. I have both boxed freight sets from 1957 and '58 and a Bankers set. About the only set I don't have is the uncatalogued one with the 21573 and six freight cars.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Sep 19 08:27:59 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Dave on Fri Sep 14 15:34:09 2007.

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Pour some water into a vat of sulfuric acid and see what happens.

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Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Wed Sep 19 08:33:15 2007, in response to Re: 1954 American Flyer, um, infomercial, posted by Bob Andersen on Thu Sep 13 10:43:06 2007.

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I got mine in 1961 on my fifth birthday - the bottom-of-the-line Pioneer Flyer with a Casey Jones loco. Now when I got it, I didn't know how a Flyer knuckle coupler worked, which is what the tender had (the first Casey Jones locos off the assembly line had a knuckle coupler). The other cars all had Pike Master couplers. Anyway, the coupler hook broke off and for years I would attach the gondola to the tender with a rubber band. After I got back into trains 25 years ago, I replaced the coupler on the tender.

Oh and the original $11.88 price sticker is still on the set box.

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