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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 19:18:28 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Alex L. on Thu Aug 16 10:42:34 2007.

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Somebody's enjoying their job ... stop it! :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:04:36 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 19:13:16 2007.

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If you read up on "the old days" you'll see how in particular on the IRT, there was a genuine need to FEAR conductors. They had the option of ejecting the unruly from a train without it stopping. :)

And turnstile jumpers would get a beating from the guy in the booth. Heh.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 20:05:04 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:04:36 2007.

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Ah, the good old days!

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 20:09:04 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:04:36 2007.

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Heh you still got some C/R's who work a certain line for a Minute that these knuckleheads dont mess with..

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:09:31 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 20:05:04 2007.

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Fear of transit workers was its own attitude adjustment. Most people didn't even want to put themselves in the position of finding out what might happen, so such incidents were rare. Of course, back then you didn't mess with cops either since the paperwork wasn't worth their time. They'd just sit you in the back seat, take you around the block, beat the qwap out of you and then ask you if you wanted to file a complaint. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:11:01 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 20:09:04 2007.

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Meanest sum'bitch on the car wins ... just used to be "us" once upon a time. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 20:11:03 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:09:31 2007.

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So did YOU bend-up anybody on your train for being unruly? :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:14:57 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 20:11:03 2007.

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Only once ... had four passengers stabbed, and I had to take the guy out with a board of education after he cut my monkey suit and stabbed me. Once he was down, some pax held him down while I found a cop. Everyone on the car was willing to "testify."

I've had a few other episodes where just reaching for the board and walking towards the perps was enough to make them go find another train. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 20:16:10 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:14:57 2007.

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Thats how you do brother!!

Take out the darn trash..

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:18:32 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 20:16:10 2007.

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One didn't make it to adulthood in MY day in the Bronx by putting up with anybody's bullsquirt. And while I always enjoyed a good sidewalk act, didn't want to be a part of it. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 20:38:43 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:04:36 2007.

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Wasn't just the IRT. When I was a c/r on the D in 1983 many conductors carried their own stuff with them. One veteran c/r had his own shoe paddle painted in his "war colors". Seemed a bit worn down, too ;-)


I heard that the conductors on the LL were well prepared as well.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:55:31 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 20:38:43 2007.

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You had to be ... the incident I refer to occurred during RUSH HOUR on the D ... I can only imagine what the midnights were like. :(

But yeah, every now and then you had to convince some people that you were more out of your teat than they were just to make them go bother someone else. I won't even get into the throwers and the spitters. :(

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Alex L. on Thu Aug 16 21:12:46 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 19:18:28 2007.

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Had been. Then the word came down from on high that I had to go to the road.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 21:14:34 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:55:31 2007.

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The midnight hours were fairly quiet. Don't bother the drunks and they won't bother you. The AM hours got interesting with the rush hour and the school kids. The conductor on the D I was referring to was working AMs and getting ready to retire. He was known to tattoo the school kids if provoked.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 21:15:12 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Alex L. on Thu Aug 16 21:12:46 2007.

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You wasnt a road TSS??

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 21:18:16 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Alex L. on Thu Aug 16 21:12:46 2007.

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The party's over...

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 21:23:58 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Alex L. on Thu Aug 16 21:12:46 2007.

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Aw qwap ... sorry to hear that ... but at least you had a break from the silliness for a while. Given what you did though, I'm sure you'll be up for another vacation from the rails in due time ... after all, can't get stale sitting around and if you wrote the book, then YOU get to fish for the converter lead when it falls off and clean the sensors. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 21:26:26 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 21:14:34 2007.

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Heh. I heard the PM's were worse. But I managed to be going in the right directions at the right times to miss all that silliness. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 21:37:44 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 21:26:26 2007.

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During summer weekends especially. I remember the trips down to Stillwell at 4PM were a zoo and the trips from Stillwell at 10PM were almost as bad. Something about laying on the beach and boozing seemed to put the pax to sleep.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 21:46:09 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 21:37:44 2007.

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Heh. Sleeping geese are happy geese. :)

Glad I wasn't around for the 80's though ... the 70's were more than a snootful.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 16 21:54:54 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 20:38:43 2007.

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In those days of dark and hot R42's, todays oldtimers earned their stripes working the D with the rowdy beach crowds. I like to think I fit into that category. The old timer part that is.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 21:59:12 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 16 21:54:54 2007.

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"Survivor" is more the term, bro. :)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 22:55:00 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Aug 16 21:54:54 2007.

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I was there with you, Bill. You earned your stripes on the D back then.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant

Posted by BIE on Thu Aug 16 23:31:25 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant, posted by monorail on Thu Aug 16 17:52:30 2007.

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Just quit making fucking passes at SBK.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant

Posted by Olog-hai on Fri Aug 17 00:32:09 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant, posted by BIE on Thu Aug 16 23:31:25 2007.

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IAWTP

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SubBus aka ENY Local on Fri Aug 17 00:45:45 2007, in response to Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:50:57 2007.

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This is not the first time this happened. When I was C/R on the L about 3 years ago, there was a similar incident between E.105St and New Lots Ave. This happened early afternoon. Service was restored by the end of the PM rush hour.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant

Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 02:44:07 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant, posted by BIE on Thu Aug 16 23:31:25 2007.

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'Just quit making fucking passes at SBK'

have NEVER made a 'fucking pass' at him......

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 17 06:21:04 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Thu Aug 16 21:37:44 2007.

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You kidding??

I see that every Sat until its frezzing out side my frist trip to StillWell my entire train is like a moving party!!

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 17 06:36:22 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 17 06:21:04 2007.

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Bring sunscreen ... pity the old arnine trick of setting the reverser in neutral, and walking out of the cab while barreling down the right of way no longer works ... then you could step out, tap the keg, pour a cold one and sit back down when you've got yours. Heh.

Had some friends show up and board my train once when I grabbed a Saturday pickup job for a day. Got onto CPW with an A behind me when I came up the ramp, so I knew there was nothing ahead of me and the bulbs were green as far as the eye could see. So I centered up, stepped out of the cab, closed the door and sat down on the opposite side. Buddy asked all panicky and so, "who's driving the train?"

NOBODY! :)

Ah the stuff you USED to be able to do. Train Dude got a dose of the "center up" trick once on an arnine in work service. You could have fun with that, step out of the cab, take off and put on your coat at full speed ahead in coast. For me, centering up was useful for eating my veal parm northbound and unwrapping that sucker after toasting it back to warmth on the floor heater.

Did I tell you I *loved* working arnines? (grin)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 07:34:01 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant, posted by BIE on Thu Aug 16 23:31:25 2007.

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Thank you! I really hope I see this girl again this weekend, like I did last weekend. And hey, I can't help my good looks.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Fri Aug 17 09:13:20 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by monorail on Thu Aug 16 13:45:28 2007.

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This is true.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Fri Aug 17 11:20:54 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 17 06:21:04 2007.

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It's one thing when you're locked in a transverse cab. It's anouther thing when you're the c/r bringing an R42 down to Stillwell.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:22:11 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Fri Aug 17 11:20:54 2007.

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R42=bad cab heat.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 11:24:43 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:22:11 2007.

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not since being GOH'd

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant

Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 11:25:31 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....BAN deodorant, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 07:34:01 2007.

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' I can't help my good looks'


sure you can....

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:25:46 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 11:24:43 2007.

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But I thought all C.I. rebuilds had bad cab heat, even after General Overhaul.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by transitbuff on Fri Aug 17 11:25:49 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 20:55:30 2007.

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What is the current name for this?

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:27:02 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by monorail on Thu Aug 16 13:40:24 2007.

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But there was not need got YOU to take a photo of the back of my head.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 11:30:59 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:25:46 2007.

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nope

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Fri Aug 17 11:32:14 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:22:11 2007.

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In the summer you didn't need cab heat. What those old 42s needed was working air conditioning and some car body lights.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:58:46 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by MJF on Fri Aug 17 11:32:14 2007.

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So I guess the R42's had the wort beatings then.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 17 12:11:53 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 17 06:36:22 2007.

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How long did you stay out of the cab on that particular run? Or more specifically, at what point did you leave the cab (72nd, 81st, etc) and when did you return (hopefully before the jog to 125th)?:)

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 17 12:21:11 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 17 06:21:04 2007.

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I wonder if there was ever a toga party on a subway train.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 12:27:20 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 17 12:21:11 2007.

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perhaps September 8th?

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 17 12:35:03 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by monorail on Fri Aug 17 12:27:20 2007.

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TO-GA!! TO-GA!! TO-GA!!!

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Fri Aug 17 12:38:39 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Thu Aug 16 20:04:36 2007.

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I remember talking with an elderly gentleman 30 years ago who lived in NYC and was a subway rider all his life. He confirmed that in the olden days, if you horsed around on a train, the conductor could and did throw you off the train. We spent quite a bit of time talking about the subway as well as streetcars and he even complimented me for bringing back some nice memories.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by MJF on Fri Aug 17 13:23:37 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:58:46 2007.

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The 42s were shitboxes. I always preferred getting a 32. The fans always worked. Really moved that hot air throughout the cars.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by TunnelRat on Fri Aug 17 13:36:09 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Fri Aug 17 06:36:22 2007.

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Real smart.did you ever think that there maybe track walkers that don`t see /hear you? or cops/firemen on the tracks that you don`t know about.that`s just plain criminal,not to mention stupid.take nothing for granted.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Alex L. on Fri Aug 17 16:12:46 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 21:15:12 2007.

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I spent seven months as an Instructor with School Car, then came out to the road in January, where I've been since.

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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up....

Posted by Railman718 on Fri Aug 17 19:39:38 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Fri Aug 17 11:22:11 2007.

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You want bad cab heat??

The R142's are ice boxes in the Winter..

The R142A's get hot if you cut on the cab heat on as soon as you get on the train..

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