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Re: Larry Line Jacked Up.... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 20:52:58 2007, in response to Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:50:57 2007. Damn, contact shoes being knocked off could cause a fire. I wonder if the current collector is still in tact? |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:54:33 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 20:52:58 2007. Arent contact shoes also know as current collectors??Or is this a new tech train thing? ;o) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 20:55:30 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:54:33 2007. Some one said that on teh R160, it's also called current collector, not too sure if this is right. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:56:15 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 20:55:30 2007. Let me lookie in me manual Let ya know in a sec.. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 20:56:44 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:56:15 2007. Alright, thank you. |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Wed Aug 15 20:58:31 2007, in response to Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:50:57 2007. Two tracks, you're living dangerously .... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:02:23 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:56:15 2007. Manual calls em current collectors.. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 21:02:49 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:56:15 2007. They give you all manuals. We get this button is for this, and this is how you operate this, now go! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:03:07 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:02:23 2007. So then on the R68's and down are called contact shoes then. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:05:16 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 21:02:49 2007. We get the manuals AFTER they tell us.."You see this this does this but DONT touch it wait for a RCI"... "This does this but dont touch it wait for a RCI"... "These are in here But NEVER touch them!!!" "Wait for an RCI"... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:07:51 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:05:16 2007. They need to teach more in school car, so you don't always have to wait for the RCI. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:10:03 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:07:51 2007. Dont have the time really you learn as much as you can you do the rest of it "out in the feild"... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:11:17 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:10:03 2007. Well, it's always good to ask RCI a few questions to learn some more. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:13:33 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:11:17 2007. "Well, it's always good to ask RCI a few questions to learn some more."Depends on WHICH RCI you ask... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:14:36 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:13:33 2007. You have some RCI's down here that know there stuff, others, don't really care. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 21:16:47 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:54:33 2007. Heh. Wonder if we have an old favorite situation of a shoe that dropped and picked a nose? :)Doesn't take much to snag and drop a third rail if they're still floating on ceramic like they used to. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 21:20:04 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:07:51 2007. MTA wants you to touch nothing that can cause even more damage. That is for RCI or bus maintainence personnel to do. Simple things you can possibly fix, other things let the experts do it. Don't know how it works in RTO with the crews(will find out soon), but in the DOB, you sit, wait, hope they take along time, and get put in place, if it is minor, and you can go back into service. That means a couple of trips, killed. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:21:25 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 21:20:04 2007. True. But back in the day, the motorman fixed the train even before the RCI came to the train, thats what I heard. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 21:22:30 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:05:16 2007. "out of title" not a good thing. :) |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 21:24:54 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:21:25 2007. Let me put it to you this way. Today, MTA does not want to pay an operator (Train or Bus) disability because they tried to fix something, and now they can't even grab something, due to having stumps for fingers.Future Motorman |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:26:21 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 21:24:54 2007. Heh, and thats exactly how it is. Oh well.Future General Supt. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 21:30:56 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:21:25 2007. Not all THAT true ... they taught you how to unjam doors (you could hit it with a brake handle, but a ball pein hammer was "out of title") and you could change lamps if there were spares hidden in the bulkhead (usually there were) and you could operate certain cutout valves (after asking if it was OK to do so) but you couldn't open up anything (other than the breaker panel to throw the lamp reverser) or kick a stand to see if it would let go of your wrench (kicks limited to no more than ten) and things of that ilk. You were expected to be able to slipper out a grounded car and pull a knife switch to isolate it and several other things. But you couldn't do all THAT much without "assistance."But MOST stupid little things that would take a train out of service were permissible if you could do it quickly and safely. They wouldn't let you tear down the group switches or tweak slack adjusters though. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:32:43 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 21:30:56 2007. Heh. BUT if you had to open up the main knife switch, then that means you had to slip to shoe slippers under both contact shoes, right? |
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Posted by Zman179 on Wed Aug 15 21:52:55 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:02:23 2007. Manual calls em current collectors..General rule of thumb, when renaming a part the syllables must be doubled. This one was only a 67% rise. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 21:53:54 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:32:43 2007. That's why you had them ... they weren't JUST for keeping the door open. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:58:52 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 21:53:54 2007. Ah, LOL! They come in handy for protection too. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 22:05:19 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 21:58:52 2007. Back then yeah...NOT now.. You put yer hands on ANY passenger and its not self defense(with at least 10 to 20 people backing you up) you are losing yer job.. Along with that person suing you, the MTA, and everybody and thier mother.. |
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Posted by Train Dude on Wed Aug 15 22:05:37 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:54:33 2007. Contact shoe are either mounted to shoe beams on older equipment or a current collector on the newer cars. The function is the same. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 22:08:46 2007, in response to Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:50:57 2007. As of 2207 hrs service running "normal" with delays...They arent not yer five minute kinds either since Thrid Rail will be out there most of the Night.. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:22:15 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 22:05:19 2007. And what if this person/people started attacking you? What are you supposed to do then? I'm not saying to start fights or anything, but I'm just saying you need something to protect you. |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 22:28:28 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:22:15 2007. MTA's motto is do nothing, and take the beating, until the authorities arrive. They figure if you fight back to defend yourself, it will just get more intense.My motto is, you touch me, my fist will touch your face. Some employees have "protection". |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:30:33 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 22:28:28 2007. Exactly! I'm not gotta let some punk rough me up, I will even take a brake handle and knock the mofo in the head, I aint getting robbed! |
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Posted by DOB2RTO on Wed Aug 15 22:35:05 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:30:33 2007. Bus drivers don't carry brake handles. But some do have their protection (not guns). Remember who gets assaulted more ofter in the MTA. It is not good being #1 for that. |
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Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Aug 15 22:39:36 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:30:33 2007. If you're a T/O and you don't want to get knocked the fuck out then just lock the cab (if you can) and keep the window closed (unless you going OPTO).-O.J. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:40:29 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Aug 15 22:39:36 2007. You cant trust all cab doors, like on the R40's. |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Aug 15 23:00:52 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:30:33 2007. you ain't getting robbed????you ATTEMPT to use a brake handle against them and you risk getting KILLED........ |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Wed Aug 15 23:03:00 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 21:13:33 2007. Hey Remember RCI "Do nothing". We all joked about him on the # 2/5 Lines. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 23:05:02 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by monorail on Wed Aug 15 23:00:52 2007. Um, if they think there gonna rob me, they better know there gonna get a fight! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 23:11:22 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 23:05:02 2007. Not if you've got TA tin. When I had my "encounter" I had a near-full car of terrified pax and the clown came after me. Needless to say, I had more than enough signatures on the police report. Nowadays, even with all that, MTA will hang YOU instead. :( |
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Posted by monorail on Wed Aug 15 23:16:23 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 23:05:02 2007. unless you know karate or kungfu or something similarHOW are you going to protect yourself you are skinny and go no muscle my sister's sneezes might be strong enough to knock you over |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 06:17:58 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:22:15 2007. SBR i come from a place where IF you LOOKED at somebody the wrong way your eyes will be looking for your teeth..I can handle myself, but here the key its knowing WHEN you have to do what you have to do.. The MTA says us operating personel can "try" to protect ourselves.. All im saying is you better have a bunch of people backing you up thats all.. I know of a incident or two where the person was attacked by somebody and they got the passengers as witnesses.. You do that you are in the clear... I keep telling you dude you better clam down if you want to work down here.. Seriously.. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 06:19:26 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Wed Aug 15 23:03:00 2007. Tell me about him...I hoped he NEVER Responded to my train if i called something in. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 06:21:52 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by SelkirkTMO on Wed Aug 15 23:11:22 2007. I keep trying to pull young bloods coat Kevin..Maybe he has to find out himself.. |
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Posted by SUBWAYSURF on Thu Aug 16 06:37:20 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Wed Aug 15 22:30:33 2007. ...and you'd be in the street. Assault w/a deadly weapon. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 07:54:36 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 06:17:58 2007. DAmn man, you right then, but I just don't wanna get ruffed up down here, because I will do something crazy, but I just gotta calm down. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 07:59:04 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 06:17:58 2007. It's just messe up, if they tried to attack you, and rob you, are you just supposed to let them do that to you? By the time you call it into control, the suspect already got away! |
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Posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 08:21:05 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 07:59:04 2007. Look at it this way ..WHY are you leaving your Operating Cab?? I really cant see somebody busting into your cab and trying something as well.. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Aug 16 08:24:26 2007, in response to Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Wed Aug 15 20:50:57 2007. Moe must be hopping mad. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Thu Aug 16 08:32:03 2007, in response to Re: Larry Line Jacked Up...., posted by Railman718 on Thu Aug 16 08:21:05 2007. Truth. |
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