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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007 What the hell does this mean?  
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 4 20:50:14 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. Its called "The Computer Is Jacked Up"... |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:52:22 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 4 20:50:14 2007. As it is always... |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 4 20:53:33 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. The train is having a nervous breakdown due to mad steel dust disease. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 4 20:56:26 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Sat Aug 4 20:53:33 2007. Already???Man send that train for a check up!!! |
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Posted by Nilet on Sat Aug 4 21:11:45 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. Hm, I saw an R160 display "MAX DLOCK" on an end sign between cars at the conductor's position, but everything seemed to work fine inside... |
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Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 4 21:19:35 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. This program has performed an illegal operation and will be shut down.Send Error Report Don't Send Error Report |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:21:02 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 4 21:19:35 2007. That is so Windows 95/98... |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 4 21:22:23 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:21:02 2007. Yeah true i remember those messages |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:25:48 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Railman718 on Sat Aug 4 21:22:23 2007. They were so damn annoying, good thing for XP. |
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What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained |
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Posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 4 21:28:53 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. What the hell does this mean?It means call SelkirkTMO ! Bill "Newkirk" |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:30:25 2007, in response to What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 4 21:28:53 2007. He only knows about AMUE!!!8) |
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Posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 4 21:30:50 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. Probably means that RailfanWindows XP has "derailed". |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:31:21 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Chris R16/R2730 on Sat Aug 4 21:30:50 2007. Well, I don't know who is gonna railfan a 'B' car... |
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Posted by Jeff Rosen on Sat Aug 4 21:32:42 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. I don't know. You never that message on one of these:
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:47:58 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:25:48 2007. How? Windows XP does exactly the same thing! |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:48:13 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:47:58 2007. Never did too me. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:48:55 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. It means that whoever wrote the software needs to debug it better.Wikipedia on Deadlock. |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:51:18 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:48:13 2007. Then you are extraordinarily lucky! Happens to me once or twice a week. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:54:28 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:51:18 2007. Think you can get a screen shot when it happens? |
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Posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:56:47 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:54:28 2007. Sure. I expect one in the next couple of days… |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:57:23 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:56:47 2007. Heh, alright cool. |
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Posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Aug 4 22:07:50 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. It certainly doesn't make me a believer in CBTC! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 4 22:12:58 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:30:25 2007. Not so, grasshopper! While I also did SMEE and learned P-wire, all the box in the cab requires is a repeated application of a shoe slipper until it reboots. But the "deadlocks" bit means that there are too many running programs which have hung in the system and it can no longer find its memory. Gotta love it. Train crashed several times before the "watchdog" gave up on trying to figure out where a valid entry point was. Bottom line, bad software. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 4 22:14:34 2007, in response to What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Newkirk Images on Sat Aug 4 21:28:53 2007. Have sledge, will travel. :) |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Sat Aug 4 22:36:56 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Andrew Saucci on Sat Aug 4 22:07:50 2007. What does it have to do with CBTC? |
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Posted by nasadowsk on Sat Aug 4 22:41:21 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:48:55 2007. No, whomever wrote the SW needs to stop, step back, and re-evaluate their design.A stupid scrolling text display locking up? Good lord. This is barely graduate level programming. One big trouble is there's a LOT of CS/CE grads out there who can't program. One can even debate if you can teach programming. my guess is the vendor opted for the Indian H1B specials, and this is the result. In my experience, most Indian 'programmers' can't program their way out of a cardboard box, and US CS/CE grads aren't much better... |
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Posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 4 23:31:42 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 21:48:13 2007. I see you never played MSTS. |
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Posted by The Port of Authority on Sat Aug 4 23:47:29 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. This reminds me of the time when I saw "GLOBAL DEFAULT ZONE" displayed on an R142 set's sidesigns. |
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Posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Aug 4 23:56:24 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by JohnL on Sat Aug 4 21:56:47 2007. Please do. Blue Screen of Death I've seen, but never Max Deadlock. |
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Posted by Jeff H. on Sun Aug 5 02:11:53 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. I'll second what Phil Nasadowski said. If I had to guess, thefirmware was written by someone who is not a native speaker of English. This is a diagnostic/debugging message which _probably_ means that some limit on the number of retries for obtaining a resource lock had been exceeded, and now the thing is basically giving up and reporting the error. The word "obtained" and "deadlock" don't generally belong in the same sentence! |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 02:33:48 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Jeff H. on Sun Aug 5 02:11:53 2007. In WindowsCE ("WINCE") coding, "deadlock" means that two threads are in a mutex (mutually exclusive mode) and refuse to release because each is dependent on the other ceding control. Literally, a "mexican standoff." Apparently the code attempts to recover from the deadlock condition but is unable to ... but if you hit the books on deadlocks, you're only permitted to have 8 or 16 total (can't remember which it is now) ... but whoever coded up the announcements code has too many schmoos leaping off the cliff. :) |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Sun Aug 5 03:34:41 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. LOLYeah, let the customers see the programmer's mistakes by displaying error messages on the interior LED signs! |
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Posted by JohnL on Sun Aug 5 04:08:57 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Aug 4 23:56:24 2007. It’s not the “Max Deadlock” that SBK is looking for. I haven’t seen that. It’s the “Program has performed an illegal operation” message on Win XP. |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Aug 5 06:05:24 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by JohnL on Sun Aug 5 04:08:57 2007. That's what my XP does.... “Program has performed an illegal operation” |
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Posted by TransitChuckG on Sun Aug 5 06:12:36 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Aug 5 03:34:41 2007. It's always fun to see annunciator signs boot up, the messages and stuff that come up. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:41:33 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Aug 4 22:12:58 2007. Ha! So the 16's are going crashing already, that sucks. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:43:22 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by 9 local on Sat Aug 4 23:31:42 2007. What? I used to play it ALL THE TIME. I never got that screen. |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:44:40 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by Dan Lawrence on Sat Aug 4 23:56:24 2007. Oh noes, that blue screen makes me just want to hit the computer (which I think I did a few times). |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:48:55 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by G1Ravage on Sun Aug 5 03:34:41 2007. That's even if the interior displays work! About 50% of the newer cars don't even have them working at all! There just blank, I gota get photos of it. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 08:19:37 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:41:33 2007. I'm sure there's a programmer gonna get spanked, and it'll get fixed. It IS amusing though that a problem like this would appear "in public" instead of on the screen in the cab ... but then some booboos just WANT to be shared. :) |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 08:26:14 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 08:19:37 2007. LOL! That's what I thought too, I guess they want the public to see the software crashing, nice way to impress passengers with new tech trains...And too bad for the guy who's gonna get a spanking XD |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 08:30:13 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:41:33 2007. 160's* |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Aug 5 09:20:21 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 08:26:14 2007. All in a day's "infrastructure." And I agree with (I think it was Phil) ... India's and America's programmers can't TOUCH Ukrainian programmers ... that's why we've been hiring more and more of them lately. :)But of ALL the dumb places to put out an error message! Sheesh. :( |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Aug 5 10:07:33 2007, in response to Re: What the hell does this mean?Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 08:30:13 2007. Same common denominator.:) |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Aug 5 10:24:46 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 07:44:40 2007. what did you hit it with????? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 10:25:55 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by monorail on Sun Aug 5 10:24:46 2007. Fist. |
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Posted by monorail on Sun Aug 5 10:34:14 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 10:25:55 2007. did your hand slip off it, while looking at certain pictures? |
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Posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sun Aug 5 10:39:42 2007, in response to Re: Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by monorail on Sun Aug 5 10:34:14 2007. What? |
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Posted by Canton Viaduct on Sun Aug 5 13:09:44 2007, in response to Max Deadlock Obtained, posted by South Brooklyn Railway on Sat Aug 4 20:47:25 2007. THE END IS NIGH. |
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