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Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007 |
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Posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:31:23 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Wed Jul 25 19:29:49 2007. The only good thing about me being a T/O I will never have to work with them or talk to them unless they get promoted to supervison.I'm sure that's what the senior men thought about us. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:32:54 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Railman718 on Wed Jul 25 19:30:59 2007. Heh. So much foam, I could save money on Barbazol. |
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Posted by 9 local on Wed Jul 25 19:33:17 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:27:03 2007. was it 100% R42 or were there R40Ms mixed in? and if it's assigned to 207, does that mean that it is assigned to the A? or could they break the train up and mix-and-match. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:37:54 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by 9 local on Wed Jul 25 19:33:17 2007. The very first post in this thread will show you the entire consist. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Jul 25 19:39:13 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:27:03 2007. I dont call myself a foamer but a future TO. I'm just out to take pics for www.nycsubway.org to show how the system changes. |
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Posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:43:48 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by FarRock on Wed Jul 25 19:39:13 2007. That's a good thing. If it wasn't for people like you, then there would not have been people like Doug Grotjean, or Joe Testagrose. And we wouldn't be able to have so many "old school" photos available for us to look at and reminisce.However, I just can't see waiting two hours for a subway train. Thirty minutes I can see, one might get lucky. But two hours? Damn! |
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Posted by 9 local on Wed Jul 25 19:54:06 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:27:03 2007. was it 100% R42 or were there R40Ms mixed in? and if it's assigned to 207, does that mean that it is assigned to the A? or could they break the train up and mix-and-match. |
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Posted by FarRock on Wed Jul 25 19:54:18 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by R32 B Train on Tue Jul 24 23:47:09 2007. It seems like a rap group from out here predicted an R42 on the (A) way before. I know the (A) is photoshopped but they could've used an R44.R.I.P. Stack Bundles 
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Posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:58:17 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by FarRock on Wed Jul 25 19:54:18 2007. Nobody knows the A line better than DJ Pudgee-P. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Wed Jul 25 20:45:13 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:43:48 2007. After work in the morning, I have nothing better to do soooooo......Taking shots and catching up on news wasted my time actually so its like sitting at the park for two hours doing nothing. |
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Posted by P-rad M on Wed Jul 25 20:48:29 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Grand concourse on Wed Jul 25 18:36:39 2007. I should've and would've, but mornings is a no no for me and sometimes I got stuff to do at home during evenings. Maybe one of these days I'll try again during PM rush. |
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Posted by Kriston Lewis on Wed Jul 25 21:42:44 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 19:27:03 2007. And management probably hates the whole of SubChat, so that's a moot. |
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Posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 02:24:44 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by P-rad M on Wed Jul 25 18:30:32 2007. That train made just one round trip Monday morning. 4934/35 were dark cars so the train was laid up to 207 YD and shopped. Has not been back since. There are no spare cars, the train cannot run on the C due to lack of R40/42 conductor boards. Wednesday night 4 R42's were bing utilized on a refuse train out of 207 YD. 2 R42's, redbird, 3 flats, redbird, 2 R42's. No telling when you'll see an R42 on the A line again, so don't waste your time waiting for it! |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 26 04:14:12 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Wed Jul 25 18:06:42 2007. Soon enough.... |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 26 04:19:49 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Wed Jul 25 14:59:51 2007. I never worked with 'em, so I can't say for sure.My opinions of the B Division at the moment are spoken only from the opinion of a railfan. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 07:04:01 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 02:24:44 2007. aw crap.But I very much appreciate the update. |
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Posted by FarRock on Thu Jul 26 08:40:15 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 02:24:44 2007. What do you mean by lack of R40/R42 conductor boards?Does this mean R42s cant be used on the (A) local? |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 09:13:02 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 02:24:44 2007. They also used 4 refuse cars on the dolly for IND Tuesday. Why don't they use the collector motors unless they aren't under inspection? |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 26 09:29:58 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by FarRock on Thu Jul 26 08:40:15 2007. The #1 cabs don't have C/R controls. The C train's C/R position is between the 4th and 5th cars, which requires the use of the #1 cab. They can't run on the C (in an 8-car train) unless the C/R is between the 5th and 6th car in both directions, and the train stops at the 10 mark. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 09:34:20 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 09:13:02 2007. They want air conditioning. |
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Posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 26 09:37:49 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by FarRock on Thu Jul 26 08:40:15 2007. Since the A is 10 cars at all times, the R42's could run on the A Local. The only way the conductor position can be at the middle of the train is to run it in a 4x+2 car train, x being 0, 1, or 2. |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jul 26 10:40:42 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by QM18Express on Wed Jul 25 12:46:15 2007. Yea,i had alot of time.til next time |
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Posted by joe c on Thu Jul 26 10:43:37 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by South Ferry on Wed Jul 25 13:27:44 2007. Nope,ate lunch when i got back home.til next time |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Thu Jul 26 10:47:59 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 26 09:29:58 2007. They can always run a 10-car R-42 train on the Chunks, if needed. |
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Posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Thu Jul 26 11:06:32 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by G1Ravage on Thu Jul 26 04:19:49 2007. You change your mind if you worked the line. It one of those lines you need a transverse cab. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 11:22:54 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 09:34:20 2007. Refuse cars don't have AC. Try again |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 11:28:57 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by R36 #9346 on Thu Jul 26 09:29:58 2007. Thats how we used to do in on the Killer K and Bravo shortlines except we stopped at the 8 car markers, It was the 3rd car North and fifth car south IIRC |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 11:38:51 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 11:22:54 2007. Sorry, my mistake. I thought you meant they used four of the R-42s being discussed. And I thought by "collector motors" you meant the R127/R134. Which is why I said air conditioning (as I know the R127/R134 don't have A/C).So what are the "collector motors"? |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jul 26 12:34:42 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 11:38:51 2007. The yellow-painted R21's with the bars over the windows. |
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Posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 13:03:42 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by MJF on Thu Jul 26 12:34:42 2007. OH, you mean the Revenue Collector cars! 0RXXX/1RXXX. Thanks.BTW, are both cars of each 0RXXX/1RXXX powered? |
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Posted by salaamallah@hotmail.com on Thu Jul 26 15:15:55 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by R32 B Train on Tue Jul 24 23:47:09 2007. any more ''photos'' by anybody else ? |
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Posted by FarRock on Thu Jul 26 15:43:36 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Bill from Maspeth on Thu Jul 26 02:24:44 2007. So does this mean more R42s wont go to the (A)? |
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Posted by MJF on Thu Jul 26 21:25:00 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Terrapin Station on Thu Jul 26 13:03:42 2007. Should be. I never worked on 'em but I don't think either one is a trailer car. Their motors should be alive. |
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Posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 22:52:18 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by MJF on Thu Jul 26 21:25:00 2007. They were all equipped with GE SCMs and full parallel (The energy conservation was never hotwired). Probable they haven't received 90 day inspections so they can't run in ANY service. |
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Posted by Westcode44 on Fri Jul 27 00:16:33 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Pelham Bay Dave on Mon Jul 23 12:47:26 2007. Come on DAVE can't operate NYAB-Newtran2....? |
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Posted by G1Ravage on Fri Jul 27 03:52:57 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by joe c on Tue Jul 24 18:55:05 2007. (N) also has (or had) the occassional R-32.Oh that's right, they yanked all the 32s, didn't they? Wasn't that back when they sent them down to the (B) for a while? |
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Posted by MJF on Fri Jul 27 07:22:24 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by BLE-NIMX on Thu Jul 26 22:52:18 2007. A little extra kick to get over the rail gaps :-) |
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Posted by Eric B on Sat Jul 28 21:26:42 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by SelkirkTMO on Tue Jul 24 06:23:46 2007. Never trusted them, never will. Dynamics are *adjustable* ... BY CAR. I know folks ain't too fond of the 32's these days, but compared to the 16's, 27's and 30's, they were pretty reasonable. Did CONEY/205 in them when I didn't do arnines. But the dynamics were a PAIN in the butt. Apply, have the train thunk in on you like a bucking bronco (nothing in the world was worse than artens for this) and then rubber band on you as they faded and air finally did what it felt like ... I absolutely LOVED AMUE because it was air from first grab to "pssssh-ssss" and what you pulled was what you got with *NO* surprises. I still don't know anything about AMUE. (even what it stands for). You're saying here that whatever you pull is what you get, but then I forget what "lapping" was all about then, and why you once said something about it being easy to lose control ("let her get away from you" or something like that).I imagine that if you're going at top speed, and whatever you pull, it is all air, and the friction brakes apply. And the shoes were all steel back then. So what was the whole difficulty in this, that SMEE eliminated? I tried to watch the operations of the museum trains in the centennial, but couldn't really gather what the difference was. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 28 22:57:42 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Eric B on Sat Jul 28 21:26:42 2007. I'll have to defer to Jeff H on the specific meaning of AMUE, but it was essentially a variation of standard UE5 with electro-pneumatic braking, manual lapping and "electric hold." Lapping was the practice (prior to SMEE which was "self-lapping") of pulling the handle to admit air into the pipe (more correctly reducing the pressure) and then rotating the handle back from the service position to the lap position which would hold the amount of air reduction until released. In SMEE, this lapping is done automatically and so running SMEE equipment is more like a hand-controlled version of an automobile footbrake in that the more you pulled, the more you got whereas in AMUE, you had to calculate how much air to "take" and then cut it off to hold it in the lapping position. Easy to do, hard to explain. :)I'll see if I can find some video of the "hand jive" and put it on Yootoob so folks can see it if it's clear enough ... been a while since I've seen it and don't remember if the entire operation is intact in that video. If so, I'll clip it and post a link to this thread when I have time to. In the meantime, when running, you'd pull the handle about parallel to the rails to take an 8-10 pound reduction, then turn the handle to the 7 o'clock position to lap (or "hold" what you bit) and then release as required, perhaps take another nip as reaquired, and then when you got down to about 3 MPH or so, you'd do a full release (9 o'clock position) and then pull the handle back to "electric hold" (8 o'clock position) to stop with just enough air electrically held in the cylinders to make a smooth stop. You learned to feel your way around doing this and it was REAL easy to do once you got used to what felt right. Hopefully I can show this if the video has all the steps intact and viewable. We'll see ... As far as "getting away" there were several possibilities as to what I meant ... one was that arnines could go VERY fast and they'd be constantly on you in school car to watch that or you'd end up going WAY to fast into timer hell and get tripped. If you weren't paying attention to your air when stopping, you could blow right through a station and stop two or more cars out, and finally arnines didn't hold their air very well and if left in a yard on ANY grade at all, they'd eventually release by themselves and become "escapees." Therefore, it was a rule that you had to tightly apply AT LEAST three cars worth of handbrakes before stepping off. So what I meant was one of those. Heh. |
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Posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 29 00:48:22 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 28 22:57:42 2007. They didn't like to sit around much.:) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 29 01:17:23 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Steve B-8AVEXP on Sun Jul 29 00:48:22 2007. They did like to run away from home in the middle of the night. :) |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 29 05:26:04 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 28 22:57:42 2007. Well ... got to the video and it doesn't show application of service or lapping, only shows release and electric hold so it won't suffice. Figured I'd try to demonstrate it using BVE but can't record it on the same machine it's running on worth a diddle ... so ended up with about four minutes of edited video of Bill running an arnine on CPW, but the amount of production required to do something with it just ain't worth the time since it won't show what I wanted it to. Sorry, guys! :( |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 29 09:45:55 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sat Jul 28 22:57:42 2007. Thanks.It would be the first two you were talking about: it "getting away from" while MOVING. And your description is basically what I remember, from you or someone explaining it before. Still, with all those steps, and having to hold air in the right place and all that; it doesn't really sound as simple as "what you pull is what you get." That's why that statement confused me. Also, just a little while ago, on the way to Flatbush, with the L GO cancelled; I decided to watch the CBTB operation for the first time. Pretty interesting; but I'm not messing with that. Call it the counterclockwise blood chase. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 29 10:08:26 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 29 09:45:55 2007. "Also, just a little while ago, on the way to Flatbush, with the L GO cancelled; I decided to watch the CBTB operation for the first time. Pretty interesting; but I'm not messing with that. Call it the counterclockwise blood chase."Oh dont Let NorthEastern here you say that!! He LOVES him some CBTC!!! (Hes going to get me for THAT one as well) I dont dig it myself also had enough of robo trains for a minute.. |
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Posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 29 10:12:08 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 29 09:45:55 2007. Heh. Check out the Of brake stands and piping thread - got a bit deeper into it over there. And I explain what I meant by "what you pull" ... I s'pose the problem is that folks don't remember "lapping" nor a world without dynamics where from the moment you applied service, you got AIR and shoes on the wheels, and they were STEEL shoes and it's absolutely TRUE as any OTHER old-timer can tell you - what you pulled is WHAT you got. As opposed to dynamic braking deciding what you got, if anything at all.There's a REASON why we had "shunting" ... it was all good, and it was all SAFE. ***UNTIL*** they screwed with the brakes. Then WillieB and other bad things happened which slowed the railroad down to bicycle speed. Wasn't LIKE that in MY time. :( |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 29 10:18:27 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 29 10:12:08 2007. Thats why in Coolcar they tell you.."Your FRIST brake is your BEST Brake".. Dont trust those Dynamics grab a good hard brake and work it down, half step and watch that stop car Marker go right on by operating car.. Espeically on thsoe R62A's and R68A's.. |
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Posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 29 16:49:15 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by SelkirkTMO on Sun Jul 29 10:12:08 2007. OK, so I looked at the other thread, and will have to go over it again. I went back over your explanation, above, and if I'm correct, the whole point of lapping is that the service position continued to build up the air to the maximum, so you had to cut off the buildup (and "hold" what you had) when you had as much as you needed? Of course, the way we do it now is to hold whatever we have by keeping the handle at that same position (like each "degree" is fixed to a particular number of pounds). If that's correct, that is so different from what we have today, even though the whole breake qand controller apparatus looks the same. I wonder why they ever had it like that.Nowadays, we really don't have to ever watch the pressure guage (outside of making sure it is fully charged). We can gather how much brake we need by feel. I guess back then, you were constantly watching the guage. I wonder if that is basically the "unofficial" method we use by moving the handle back and forth within the service range, to get a quicker stop (especially if you have fanned, and are trying to get it back). I heard one guy call it "lapping", IIRC. and it was when I discovered that, that was when I got much better with the 68's, and was able to become completely comfortable with them. Are the NJT cars AMUE also? |
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Posted by Zman179 on Sun Jul 29 16:54:07 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Eric B on Sun Jul 29 16:49:15 2007. Nowadays, we really don't have to ever watch the pressure guage (outside of making sure it is fully charged). We can gather how much brake we need by feel. I guess back then, you were constantly watching the guage.I seriously doubt that. Back then, just like you do now, you "feel" whether your train needs more or less brake. It's almost like working a 62A or 68A which are resistant to fanning. With those cars, you hold what you've got then if you need more or less, you adjust the brake valve to the position you wanted. Same with AMUE, but with a little more wrist action. |
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Posted by Railman718 on Sun Jul 29 16:57:13 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Zman179 on Sun Jul 29 16:54:07 2007. Exactly, once i got "used" to thsoe R62A's i was Rockin and Rollin..It took me almost two years(honestly since i was a new T/O) of steady operation with that equipment while scraping the Wall out to ZooLots.. |
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Posted by Green_713 on Sun Jul 29 18:13:47 2007, in response to Re: R-42's Running On The ''A'' - 7/23/2007, posted by Terrapin Station on Wed Jul 25 00:16:03 2007. Just a wee bit late, but I forgot my password. I took those pictures Monday morning at about 810AM at the Oxford station. |
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