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Atlantic Yard

Posted by BusRider on Tue Jul 24 12:44:51 2007

I saw in the NY Post yesterday that the city is making or doing work on a yard called the Atlantic Yard does anyone know anything???

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 12:49:20 2007, in response to Atlantic Yard, posted by BusRider on Tue Jul 24 12:44:51 2007.

GOOGLE it!

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 24 12:50:07 2007, in response to Atlantic Yard, posted by BusRider on Tue Jul 24 12:44:51 2007.

In the Yard,
People Work Hard,
then cook veggies in Lard,
Always be on your Guard,
The next guy you meet might be the Bard,
Holding from the Deck a Card...

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 13:11:16 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 12:49:20 2007.

Given that the actual name is Atlantic Yards almost none of the relevant stuff comes up if you google "Atlantic Yard".



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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 13:15:26 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 13:11:16 2007.

Uh, every result that I saw was 100% relevant, except for the squatter/misspelling-opportunist at atlanticyard.com.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 13:51:47 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 13:15:26 2007.

Uh, every result that I saw was 100% relevant, except for the squatter/misspelling-opportunist at atlanticyard.com.

I didn't say that the results that turned up weren't relevant. I said that almost all of the relevant results didn't turn up.

Googling "Atlantic Yard" gives 534 results.

Googling "Atlantic Yards" gives 501,000 results.


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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 13:58:22 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 13:51:47 2007.

??????

The results were 100% relevant and clicking on the very first one would give you everything you need to know (and clicking on the rest would give you a pretty good idea). It's not quantity - it's quality. And Googling what he asked about gave you a QUALITY link as the #1 result.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 24 14:08:44 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 13:11:16 2007.

I thought it was Vanderbilt Yard. Google that and you get the MTA's RFP.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 14:10:56 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 13:58:22 2007.

??????

I made a comment, and you disagreed with a comment I never made. That's all.


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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 14:17:11 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by AlM on Tue Jul 24 14:10:56 2007.

You implied (correct me if I'm wrong) that Googling "Atlantic Yard" was somehow inferior to other options with respect to answering this man's question. I replied that it isn't.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by checkthedoorlight on Tue Jul 24 14:18:36 2007, in response to Atlantic Yard, posted by BusRider on Tue Jul 24 12:44:51 2007.

It's Vanderbilt Yards, commonly called VD Yard. The only people who call it Atlantic Yards are those who have a stake in the Nets Arena project. It's where LIRR stores Flatbush Ave trains during the middle of the day, sort of like a mini West Side Yard.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 14:22:50 2007, in response to Atlantic Yard, posted by BusRider on Tue Jul 24 12:44:51 2007.

I'll pass by there today and see if that's true.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 14:32:31 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 14:22:50 2007.

I'll pass by there today and see if that's true.

I'm not sure what you are looking to find out, but I know that the Atlantic Yards project is certainly a real project, and that work at/in/over VD Yard has already begun, according to previous media reports.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 24 14:36:47 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 24 14:08:44 2007.

It is Vanderbilt Yard (VD Yard), but for some reason, a lot of the media has been calling it the "Atlantic Rail Yards Project".

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NY POST ARTICLE: RATNER'S PLAN HITS BIG $NAG (Was: Atlantic Yard)

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 14:37:11 2007, in response to Atlantic Yard, posted by BusRider on Tue Jul 24 12:44:51 2007.

I saw in the NY Post yesterday that the city is making or doing work on a yard called the Atlantic Yard does anyone know anything???

I know a lot. The article's photo caption incorrectly implies that VD Yard is named "Atlantic Yards".

ATTN NY POST: AFAIK, "Atlantic Yards" is the name of the development. Is is not the name of a yard, nor is it the name of an area of Brooklyn.

LINK

RATNER'S PLAN HITS BIG $NAG

By RICH CALDER

July 23, 2007 -- The Bloomberg administration is threatening to pull more than $100 million in city subsidies from the controversial Atlantic Yards project in Brooklyn unless a deal providing massive tax breaks for developer Bruce Ratner is drastically revised.

"Pure and simple, it's a giveaway," a high-ranking city official told The Post.

At issue is an affordable-housing reform bill hastily passed by the state Legislature that included a special "carve-out" for Atlantic Yards.

The provision, quietly inserted by Assemblyman Vito Lopez (D-Brooklyn), would provide Ratner with an extra $300 million in property-tax benefits. It also exempts Atlantic Yards from a new definition of government-assisted affordable housing that limits it only to low-income households. Atlantic Yards could still include middle-income tenants.

Many developers, city officials fear, would hesitate to build "affordable" housing that excludes the middle class. A city memo says the bill could kill the construction of 10,000 subsidized units citywide for which middle-income families could qualify, including 5,000 units at Queens West.

Another provision eliminates - for Ratner only - the requirement that at least 20 percent of the housing units in each building in a complex be affordable.

Critics say it opens the door to Ratner "segregating" all of the project's 2,500 affordable-housing units into several buildings.

"More sinister, [Ratner] can build the market-rate housing first and wait a decade to do the affordable housing or, even worse, come back after the market-rate housing is done and then say, 'We can't afford to do the affordable housing,' " an official said.

The project plan currently calls for 30 percent of all housing built during the project's first phase to be affordable, and Ratner's staff says there's no plan to change that.

One high-ranking official at Ratner's company said, "Rather than working with Albany to create more affordable housing for New York, the Bloomberg administration is threatening to kill middle-income housing at Atlantic Yards unless they get what they want."

The city committed $205 million to Atlantic Yards to help Ratner acquire property and make infrastructure repairs. It might not hold back all the funds because the area needs the infrastructure repairs anyway.

Additional reporting by Tom Topousis


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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 24 14:53:52 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 24 14:36:47 2007.

As Juliet would say: What's in a name? that which we call a rose by any other name would smell as sweet. :-)


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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 15:02:07 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 14:32:31 2007.

I'm sure you are being honest, I just wanna check it out for myself what they are doing. I can't wait until Barclay's Center is built, I can just walk down the block to see a basketball game.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 24 17:04:44 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 15:02:07 2007.

If you can get tickets. Don't those events get sold out early?

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by LA Blue Line on Tue Jul 24 17:08:59 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 24 17:04:44 2007.

For a while because of the excitement in the beginning about having a team in Brooklyn. Then everyone will come to their senses and realize that it's just the Nets.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 20:40:40 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by RonInBayside on Tue Jul 24 17:04:44 2007.

My friend is gonna get season tickets for the first year, the same friend might also get CitiField season tickets.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 20:41:16 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 14:32:31 2007.

No it hasn't, I passed by there today and saw nothing (not even a trainset).

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Grand concourse on Tue Jul 24 20:50:08 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by LA Blue Line on Tue Jul 24 17:08:59 2007.

But at least they make it to the playoffs every year rather than the Knicks.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Tue Jul 24 21:00:45 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Bob Andersen on Tue Jul 24 14:53:52 2007.

Sniff, sniff....ahhh, the aromas of a nice rail yard....

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Terrapin Station on Tue Jul 24 21:45:33 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 20:41:16 2007.

Ok, thanks for correcting the stupid media.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 25 19:34:19 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by Osmosis Jones on Tue Jul 24 20:41:16 2007.

That's odd, I also drove by there today, and there were some trains in the yard, but I didn't see any evidence of any work being done for the stadium.

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Re: Atlantic Yard

Posted by Osmosis Jones on Wed Jul 25 23:06:00 2007, in response to Re: Atlantic Yard, posted by GP38/R42 Chris on Wed Jul 25 19:34:19 2007.

That's because I went there after the PM Rush (when the yard usually empties out).

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